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August 9, 2007 at 17:28:36

Cheney's Stand on Musharraf Reversed?

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Almost any way you slice it, Vice President Cheney has lost influence and prestige since September 11, 2001.

The Vice President shot a guy in the face. The Vice President stood up for his boss and the policies of the Bush Administration even when almost everyone disagreed with the administration. And Mr. Cheney was out front in talking to people like NBCs Tim Russert of “Meet the Press.”

Today, President Bush met with President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan.

Mr. Karzai has made no secret of the fact that he believes the Taliban, al-Qaeda and perhaps Osama Bin Laden himself are hiding out in the tribal areas of Pakistan: the land governed by President General Pervez Musharraf. The tribal areas are along Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan. They form, as the name implies, a semi-autonomous region. Pakistan’s Army does not venture into the tribal areas without severe trepidation.

For more than a year, we at Peace and Freedom have had an almost daily dialogue with journalist Muhammad Khurshid from Khar, Bajaur Agency, Tribal Areas Pakistan. Muhammad has given us at Peace and Freedom, and we hope, many readers, an appreciation for Pakistan, President General Musharraf and especially the tribal areas.

For the past few weeks, Musharraf has been under fire to some degree by those in the United States that believe he has allowed the Taliban and al-Qaeda free rein in the tribal areas.

As President Bush met with President Karzai, the government of Pakistan used the opportunity to again go on the attack in denial that Pakistan’s tribal areas are a “safe haven” for terrorists.

Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said at a weekly briefing Monday: “There is no al-Qaida or Taliban safe haven in Pakistan.”

But pressure on Pakistan persists, from congress, from presidential hopefuls, from newspaper commentators (like myself).

The silent player in all of this is Vice President Cheney.

It is our belief now, after talking to many sources, that President Cheney’s total support and high regard for President General Musharraf may now be totally discredited.

One has to return to the “Meet the Press” of Sunday, September 10, 2006, to fully appreciate Cheney’s support for Musharraf at that time.

On that “Meet the Press” of Sunday, September 10, 2006, Vice President Cheney expressed strong U.S. Government support for President Musharraf of Pakistan as follows:

“President Musharraf has been a great ally. There was, prior to 9/11, a close relationship between the Pakistan intelligence services and the Taliban. Pakistan was one of only three nations that recognized, diplomatically recognized the government of Afghanistan at that particular time. But the fact is Musharraf has put his neck on the line in order to be effective in going after the extremist elements including al-Qaeda and including the Taliban in Pakistan. There have been three attempts on his life, two of those by al-Qaeda over the course of the last three years. This is a man who has demonstrated great courage under very difficult political circumstances and has been a great ally for the United States”.

“So there’s no question in that area along the Afghan/Pakistan border is something of a no man’s land, it has been for centuries. It’s extraordinarily rough territory. People there who move back and forth across the border, they were smuggling goods before there was concern about, about terrorism. But we need to continue to work the problem. Musharraf just visited Karzai in, in Kabul this past week, they’re both going to be here during the course of the U.N. General Assembly meetings over the course of the next few weeks. We worked that area very hard, and the Paks have been great allies in that effort.”

“Pakistan, we’ve gone in and worked closely with Musharraf to take down al-Qaeda. Saudi Arabia, same thing. In all of those cases, it’s been a matter of getting the locals into the fight to prevail over al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda-related tyrants.”

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"Cheney's Stand on Musharraf Reversed?" By John Carey

I beg to disagree with Mr.Carey and Mr. Khurshid, both. The tribesmen in the so called North West Frontier Province where Khurshid hails from, are blood brothers of the Pushtoon tribesmen across the border in Afghanistan. They fought the British Empire for a hundred years or more, to maintain their independence and freedom. The British gave up on their dreams of governing this region from New Delhi, the capital of the erstwhile British Raj and settled for total self rule in the region which they named as the North West Frontier Province whose tribal chieftains, in return, agreed to fly the Union Jack in the said NWFP. When the British departed the incoming Govt of Pakistan in 1947 agreed to leave the 'arrangements' made by the British intact which was a sound decision because in the decade preceding the British withdrawal, this NWFP region had begun asking for an independent Pakhtoonistan under the leadership of their Leader, the Frontier Gandhi who was closer to India than to Pakistan. The Pashtuns or Pakhtoon's did not get their Independent State and agreed to stop their successionist Movement as soon they were assured they would get the best of two worlds from Pakistan; one, they would remain a semi-sovereign Province, two, they would have also have the same rights in Pakistan as any other Pakistani from Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan and what was up and until 1971, East Pakistan; rights in the national budgets of Pakistan, voting rights, seats in the National Parliament etc etc. Then came the Communist take over in Afghanistan which turned the tables on the Pashtuns/Pakhtuns across the border from NWFP. The Afghan Commies were mostly from the minority ethnic groups in Afghanistan, that is, the Uzbeks, the Hazaras, the Turkomans, the Kirghiz etc. The Commies were also athiests and the Pakhtuns/Pashtuns were deeply religious Muslims. The Commies came down heavily on the Pashtuns, triggering wide spread and popular resistance in which they were supported by their Pakistani kinsmen, the Pashtuns/Pakhtuns in NWFP, i.e, Pakistan. Just about when the Commies were about to be ousted, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan to bolster the failing Communist Regime in Afghanistan. When this happened the Americans and their Muslim Allies in the Islamic Belt of the Arabian Gulf got into action. The rest is recent history requiring no memory freshening. As soon as the Soviets were forced to abandon their misadventure in Afghanistan, America also lost interest in Afghanistan and in the Islamic Mujaheedin on both sides of the Afghan-Pakistan border and left Afghanistan and Pakistan and their ex-Islamic supporters in the Arabian Gulf, the job of cleaning up the mess they and the Soviets had left behind them in Pakistan and Afghanistan which included thousands of tons of arms and ammunition, several hundred Religious Schools on both sides of the Pak-Afghan border which were set up with American approval and funding. It was these Islamic Madrasas which provided the fighters for the Mujaheedin, which later metamorphosed into Taleban controlled religious schools. Post Soviet and American withdrawals, Afghanistan and to some extent even Pakistan were in no shape to do anything about these religious schools, except to allow them to remain intact. They had no money to replace them with proper schools or the means to invest in the economic development in these Pashtun/Pakhtun region. The genie had escaped from its bottle and without financial help from America tis genie couldn't be bottled in again. Then came Taleban's successful bid for power in Afghanistan and the OIL/Gas Pipeline or pipe dream of the Oilies in America. Had the Taleban agreed to the pipeline to let pass, America would have allowed the Taleban to consolidate their murderous hold on Afghanistan to this day. But this was not to be. In all this melee entered Al Qaida, which were mainly Gulf Arabs who were very anti-American but for reasons other than America's doings in Afghanistan. Their anger was due to American Policies and double standards in their part of the World, like blind support for Israel and the pro-US regimes in the Arabian Gulf. Since they were a motley crowd and not a political party based in nowhere and being hotly pursued by the Governments in their domiciles but still very angry, they found refuge and protection in Afghanistan which they got due to same credd religion, same hate for America for reasons closer to Afghanistan than Israel. Then came 9/11 which brought the American Bull back into the Afghan China shop with nothing more than REVENGE on its mind. They had no post war/conquest plan or strategy, just Armitage type of bombing the shit out of them. Unfortunately, their shit hit the fan not only in Afghanistan but also in Iraq and the whole Middle East. The cleaning up of all this shit will take decades. Of and on blaming of Karazai, Musharraf and Iran & the voiced Arimitage type bombings of NWFP, the Cheney type nuking of Iran and Obama style nuking of Pakistan wil not clean any shit. On the contrary it will add more shit and more wind to the fan! Unfortunately the American Establishment does not understand all this, neither does it have the time to understand all this. The 'parliament of whores' in Washington DC has so many pimps (lobbies) running around in its labyrinths and with elections very two years, they have no time for developing any meaningful Foreign Policy for this part of the world. Friends and foes of America in the Region change every week end. The blaimimg games goes on and on and on and the ONLY policy that all agree on is the Policy forced down their gullets by the Lobbies, especially the Israeli Lobbies. It's not working and will continue not working till Kingdom come! America will nuke Iran, get rid of Musharrafand nuke Pakistan. Then what? More Iraqs for America in Iran, Pakistan and Syria? Then what? Does Mr.Khurshid or the so-called Washington based Experts on 'this and that' have any answers? I have. 

1. In this region America is the problem, it's not the solution.

2. In America, the Lobbies are the problem, not the solutions

3. Solutions proffered by all the fancy named study houses in

    Washington are the problems, not the solutions.

4. America should get the hell out of this Region and spend its wealth on

    Americans in America, before it gets bankrupted and starts begging from China.

5. This withdrawal will be in the best interests of all concerned including Israel.

Knock! Knock! Any body listening? No? It's too dangerous to listen because of the tapping of communications? Listening is also felony now in America? Oops, I made a mistake! I thought I was calling America. I am so sorry! Hey, but, you said Berlin and the year 1933 or did you say Moscow and the year 1918? I am sorry I got onto the wrong time machine!  

   

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