"The Shell Game" author, Steve Alten criticizes Bill Clinton for attacking 9/11 truthers, saying 9/11 truth movement activists are the HEROES of our era . . . ON MAINSTREAM AM RADIO TALK IN PHILLY TODAY !!!

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by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Saturday, Feb 2, 2008 at 6:47:27 PM

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Once again, we see that "winning" tactic of the Truthers - "get in their face".  And the sincerity of the videographer... "Will you please shut off the video?" "You want me to shut off the video?" "Yes," "Okay..."  NOT!  So long as you claim it's for the "truth" (your personal version of "truth", that is), you can do just about anything you want, huh?

"To be guided by second-hand conjecture is pitiful," - Jane Austen.

And I'm the one that's called "pathetic" repeatedly, Mr. Douglas.  Review the video once more and see the "truth" of the person recording the video for only her personal use and her being "a big fan".  Yeah... right.

So the end of "truth" justifies the means of "lies" for Truthers.  Well, that's a good thing to know for when I bump into them...  

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Feb 2, 2008 at 11:21:23 PM

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Tom would have condemned the Revolutionary Army for cheating.  When our patriots challenged the British empire they used guerilla tactics against the mighty British Army.

Tom would have said, "Eeeewww.  Not faaaaiiiirrrr.   They are cheeeaaating!"

When your nation's democracy has been hijacked you get truth out by any means necessary, my friends.  By any means necessary.

Of course Tom's pathetic attempts to prevent truth from getting out are wearing thin with all the readers here by now.

by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Sunday, Feb 3, 2008 at 9:56:52 AM

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"When your nation's democracy has been hijacked you get truth out by any means necessary, my friends.  By any means necessary."

And thus, we see the true agenda behind the Truth Movement.  It has very little to do with "truth" as much as it has to do with advancing the political agenda of a disenfranchised political faction within the U.S. in the never-ending question for power (or a share of it).  Their presumption is that they alone are the patriots, while all others are either blind or unwilling to see the "rightness" of their tactics in pushing their political agenda.

Please, Mr. Douglas, who is really saying "ewww, not fair" here by resorting to lies?  If I see that the "patriot" is willing to lie for his/her cause (something I didn't see with the Revolutionary Patriots "Give me liberty or give me death" and all), then I cannot trust them in any other matter. 

And I must question why their "need" is so great that they feel compelled to lie shamelessly.  Their needs do not, on this matter at least, seem to align with my needs.  Build a poor foundation, Mr. Douglas, and I'll show you a house that will fall down.

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Feb 4, 2008 at 3:27:03 PM

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I think it's more evolution than revolution or whatever...once upon a time, a guy like Murdoch could 'tell it like it is', and, without much access to other sources of info, you kind of had to assume that they weren't completely B.S.ing you. In Modren Tymes, though, with the Internets, and telephones, and more people writing to the editor and asking questions on radio and TV, the whole dialogue has kind of opened up a little, possibly even to the point where trying to tell a 'story'(meaning, something a little less than honest) might not really be such a hot concept anymore. I think people will still TRY to slide one by the public, that's kind of a given, but the turnaround time on something that is going to get a little shorter.

This is the 21st century, something initially kind of hard to grasp, to wrap your head around, but it's here, and with a phone-cam, you too can be an instant telejournalist, news live as it happens, not as they dress it up with hair gel and dryer commercials. No call for Philip Morris, just calls for confirmation.

Specifically though, talking in terms of the whole Bush phenom and 9/11 and Ron Paul and the upcoming election, I think it's really good, positive, healthy even that people are standing up and asking questions, challenging 'facts' and generally participating at a higher level. If people don't do that, even if they're just going through the motions, but if they don't even do that, then they may as well nominate Mickey Mouse and so forth, and Congress may as well just write 'oo', infinity, on those budget checks. The issues aren't easy, voting's a pain, the candidates(pandidates) are cheesy, but you still gotta try and read and speak up. It's sort of your 'job' as a citizen.

Some people only pipe up when it's time for the big cheese dole. They want that favoritism, that handout, that exemption, that free ride, that special treatment, that blessing, that pat on the head. I speak up when I see what looks like larceny or a blatant lie. I think Hard Questions need to be asked so that none of these folks feel like they can have an unconditional perpetual unchallenged free ride. I think we've seen too many years of that, which is how we ended up where we are today, in debt, in the dark, and in need of a lot better national dialogue on a host of issues as long as my arm.

Speak, think, read, act, participate, or end up wishing later on that you had...

by truthtruffle (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 111 comments) on Saturday, Feb 2, 2008 at 11:23:48 PM

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