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February 12, 2008 at 17:40:26
Virginia's Elections Are UNCONSTITUTIONAL?!?! by Mark Adams Page 1 of 3 page(s) |
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Yes, Virginia, your elections are unconstitutional, and frankly, no one in power gives a damn! So what? It must not be that important if no one in power thinks that Virginia’s elections should be conducted as required by its Constitution. That’s just some old G** damned piece of paper, right? The law doesn’t matter any more, does it? Those people that wrote that old fashioned Constitution didn’t know any thing, did they? Well, those quaint old concerns about the dangers of counting votes in secret are shared by most Americans, just not the ones who hold on to power right now. Many more will get a personal experience and learn why most are concerned about how our elections are conducted. A Zogby poll from August of 2006 shows that at that time, 61% had heard about problems with computers counting our votes and that 92% of Americans are intelligent enough to understand that counting votes in secret is dangerous. The other 8% must think that there is some benefit to them if they are thinking at all. This extraordinary level of concern is why nearly 10,000 Floridians participated in exit polls conducted by Project Vote Count on January 29, 2008 at 30 precincts in 10 counties across Florida. Thousands more mailed in affidavits to make sure that their votes were counted accurately. These concerned citizens signed affidavits to show how they voted to make sure that the machines counted accurately. If those in power in Virginia didn’t want to follow its Constitution when conducting elections, why didn’t they just tell the public that they were amending it to allow votes to be counted in secret. Oh, that’s right. Most people are smart enough to realize that whoever is in control of the secret vote count might just lie and subvert the will of the voters. Of course, that couldn’t happen right here in the good old USA at least not again like in 2000, 2004, 2006, and 2008. Oh, yeah, it might just happen every time that those in power want to abuse the public and stay in power anyway.
But wait, the news would tell us if someone was cheating and rigging elections, wouldn’t it? Well, did it tell you about the unbelievably big differences between the results in the hand counted precincts and those in the machine counted precincts in the New Hampshire primary or did it just tell you that the exit polls were wrong? Did the press tell you that computers count votes in secret? Did it tell you about the Zogby poll showing that everyone with half a brain knows that counting votes in secret is dangerous? Did it tell you that Virginia’s Constitution prohibits counting votes in secret and that those in power were just planning to ignore the Constitution when it came to elections in which you might just want to kick them out of office? No? I wonder why? Could it be that the mainstream news media is all owned by a small cartel that wants to keep you in the dark?
So, I say that Virginia’s elections are unconstitutional, but how could that be? No one else is saying anything about it. Well, Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution of Virginia states, "Voting shall be by ballot or by machines for receiving, recording, and counting votes cast." But it also states, "Secrecy in casting votes shall be maintained, except as provision may be made for assistance to handicapped voters, but the ballot box or voting machine shall be kept in public view and shall not be opened, nor the ballots canvassed nor the votes counted, in secret." http://legis.state.va.us/constitution/a2s3.htm
An "election reform advocate" has pointed out that the Virginia Constitution allows machines to count votes, and he says that as a result, the prohibition against counting votes in secret is meaningless. Of course, the members of Virginia’s Legislature and its State Board of Elections as well as its Governor also must believe that Virginia’s Constitutional prohibition against counting votes in secret is meaningless since they are allowing all of the votes cast in Virginia to be counted in secret.
Anyway, I pointed out to the self-anointed "election integrity advocate" who also claims to be a "paralegal" that the basic rule of statutory or constitutional construction is that the law should be followed in a way which gives all provisions full force and effect if possible. As a large percentage of the members of Virginia’s legislature are attorneys, you would think that they would know and follow basic legal principles, wouldn’t you? Maybe they were just too busy to bother reading Virginia’s Constitution even though they have sworn to protect and defend it, maybe they just didn’t think about how machines count, or maybe they didn’t want you to think about it.
In this instance, it seems difficult to give both Constitutional provisions full force and effect because machines are allowed to count the votes, machines count in secret, and counting votes in secret is prohibited. So, it would seem that either the Constitutional provision allowing machines to count votes should be ignored or the prohibition against counting votes in secret should be ignored.
However, both provisions can be given full force and effect if the votes are cast on paper ballots which are counted on optical scanners for convenience, and then those paper ballots are also counted by hand in public. Of course, this seems a little burdensome and inconvenient, but when the Virginia Constitution was revised to allow counting votes on machines, apparently no one understood that machines count in secret, or did they want to count the votes in secret without bothering to mention it to the voters?
Anyway, the principles of Constitutional interpretation which are expressed in thousands of cases and legal texts require both Constitutional provisions to be given effect if possible. Of course, the provision allowing ballots to be counted on machines is optional, not mandatory, while the prohibition against counting votes in secret is mandatory. Therefore, Virginia could fully comply with its Constitution by returning to casting votes on paper and counting them in public. This would save millions of taxpayer dollars and keep a hacker from fixing an election, but it would also save millions of taxpayer dollars, money which could be used for lobbying, junkets, fact finding missions, etc., and some people might just get voted out of office!
Of course, most votes cast in Virginia will be cast on touch screen voting machines which are also known as DRE machines. There is absolutely no ballot to ever count in public if a touch screen is used for voting. It’s just vapor without paper. You just must have faith in the machine. It wouldn’t lie, would it? It would malfunction, would it? It couldn’t be hacked, could it? Just believe, have faith, and trust in the secret vote count printed out by the machine. The vote count that no one in government even bothers to check.
Well, the Federales wouldn’t just pass a law requiring touch screen voting without any Constitutional authority would they? Read Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States and think about the respect, or gross lack thereof, which has been shown for that Constitution lately. Also, you might want to read Article I, Section 4 which specifically provides that the States have the power to regulate the time, place, and manner of conducting elections.
So, how can the Federales require the States to conduct elections? Well, they can require the States to comply with the Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection clause, but that doesn’t give them the power to mandate secret vote counting. So, why would they try to do it? They wouldn’t want to cheat to stay in power, would they? Oh, that’s right. The public is just a little unhappy with them too, aren’t we?
Another principle of construction in our system of government is that all state law must comply with the Constitution of the United States. The 10th Amendment to the United States Constitution states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Does the United States Constitution allow our votes to be counted in secret on machines or does it require something a little more trustworthy than just having faith that some machines counted accurately and weren’t hacked? Well, the United States Supreme Court has not yet heard a case in which this issue has been directly presented, but it has heard a few cases about the right to vote which have set precedent which should guide us on this issue.
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Mark Adams Questions Virginia Board of Elections Staff
Yes, Virginia, your elections are unconstitutional, and frankly, no one in power gives a damn! Technically, they say that they did not know that computers count in secret, that Virginia's Constitutional prohibition against counting votes in secret isn't really clear and doesn't Federal law control everything any way, and that no one even really thought about this secret vote counting issue that they know of. If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you, cheap. Just send cash, and I’ll send the papers right away. Video - Mark Adams Questions Virginia Board of Elections Staff http://markadams.blip.tv/file/665536/ Everyone knows that the people are supposed to be able to peacefully remove bad leaders through elections, but what if those who control the machines, and their secret vote count, want bad leaders in power? Is there another way that citizens can prevent abuse of power without resorting to violence? Yes, there is or was another way to hold our governors accountable without resorting to violence. A few of you may already know about this, but if not, I’m sure that you’ll want to find out about the other civil check on government abuse of power that our Founders provided for us. If so, read What Happens When the People Lose the Power to Control Government and What You Can Do to Take the Power Back? http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mark_ada_080204_what_happens_when_th.htm If you care about the safety of your family, read this article now, and send it to all of your contacts today. Now is the time for action! For information about action being taken in Florida, Texas, and Ohio to make sure that our votes are counted accurately, see Project Vote Count www.ProjectVoteCount.com Jump into the fray to make sure our votes are counted accurately. It only takes one day to make a big difference! by Mark Adams (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 312 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:33:35 AM
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Where did I see this before?
This looks like the same article about South Carolina with the name changed Virginia. As I said before, the constitution in question refers to "general elections", Not party elections referred to as primary elections. People can hold secret society elections like the secret nose pickers society's super secret election and membership. Republicans and Democrats are secret societies like the one I mentioned. The various constitutions really mean very little these days anyway to your various governments. by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Feb 13, 2008 at 6:07:25 PM
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The Second String is Back! It's Time to Play Softball?!?
Gallaher, thank you for making another laughable attempt to mislead. It’s always fun to expose someone who is a flack for those who gave us secret vote counting and want to stay in power by keeping it. Your bio on OpEdNews says that you ran for Congress. I’m curious. Did you speak out against counting votes in secret? Certainly, you would have understood that counting votes in secret might lead to problems like, stolen elections, right? Is that why you lost? Are you for counting votes in secret now? It sure sounds like it. Your bio also says that you are a veteran and a former Federal government employee. I’m a former veteran, too, and I think that most veterans and current members of the military would be disgusted by your efforts to undermine democracy, your attempts to make fun of those who are working to restore it, and your statement that "constitutions really mean very little." After all, I swore to defend our Constitution, didn’t you? You state, "the constitution in question refers to "general elections." However, that is false. Try reading something before you post a comment next time. I included the link in the article, but here it is again http://legis.state.va.us/constitution/a2s3.htm You "former" Feds might want to try to disguise yourselves a little better and try to think of arguments that are a little better than a blatant lie or saying an election is not an election. I already schooled a self-anointed "election integrity advocate" who made the same specious "a primary election is not an election" claim about South Carolina. I wonder, how come you two geniuses didn’t bother to look into the difference between a caucus and a primary election? Let’s see, a caucus is conducted by a party while a primary election is conducted by the state. A party can make rules for its caucus and it has a tremendous amount of leeway. However, a party could not say that African Americans or Catholics cannot vote or be elected in its caucus, but a party may be able to pass a rule allowing votes in its caucus to be counted in secret if there were enough morons to support such a rule. Yet, who would join a party where they had no input in picking leaders? Who would support such a party? Any way, Virginia and South Carolina conduct primary elections not caucuses. These primary elections are conducted by the state, and therefore, they must comply with state law which of course includes the state constitution. Once again Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution of Virginia states, "Secrecy in casting votes shall be maintained, except as provision may be made for assistance to handicapped voters, but the ballot box or voting machine shall be kept in public view and shall not be opened, nor the ballots canvassed nor the votes counted, in secret." Do you see an exception for a primary election? Do you understand the difference between a caucus and a primary now? So, what if the State and some bureaucrat in a black robe say a primary does not qualify as an election under the Constitution, do you think that the public would buy a boatload of BS like that? How many readers do you think that you convinced? by Mark Adams (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 312 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:52:00 PM
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