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February 12, 2008 at 17:40:26

Virginia's Elections Are UNCONSTITUTIONAL?!?!

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The United States Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the fundamental right to have your vote counted stating, "We regard it as equally unquestionable that the right to have one's vote counted is as open to protection by Congress as the right to put a ballot in a box." U. S. v. Mosley, 238 U.S. 383, 386 (1915). Do you know how your vote was counted on a computer? Do you just have faith that it was counted correctly, or at all? Are you a true believer in secret vote counting just like so many who walk the halls of power right now?

Wait, a flack for those who want to keep counting our votes in secret might say, "that’s a case from so long ago, they could never have imagined computers and how "efficient" they are, we shouldn’t be bound by that quaint old case about counting votes." Some people have no conscience and will do anything for a buck. People like that fill the halls of power right now.

Here’s what the United States Supreme Court said in another more recent case about the right to have your vote counted:

"A consistent line of decisions by this Court in cases involving attempts to deny or restrict the right of suffrage has made this indelibly clear. It has been repeatedly recognized that all qualified voters have a constitutionally protected right to vote, and to have their votes counted. In Mosley the Court stated that it is ‘as equally unquestionable that the right to have one's vote counted is as open to protection … as the right to put a ballot in a box. The right to vote can neither be denied outright, nor destroyed by alteration of ballots, nor diluted by ballot-box stuffing. As the Court stated in Classic, ‘Obviously included within the right to choose, secured by the Constitution, is the right of qualified voters within a state to cast their ballots and have them counted…." Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533, 555 (1964). (Citations omitted.)

Once again, how do we know that our votes are counted if they are only counted in secret on machines? Do you just have faith in the machines? Do you think that we should just trust that the machines counted our votes correctly?

So, have I cleared up any confusion out there over whether or not Virginia, and every other state by the way, should conduct its elections in a manner in which we can all make sure that our votes are counted which of course, does not allow votes to be counted solely on computers in secret? I hope so!

Boy, just imagine if one of those Presidential candidates knew about this. They could take legal action to get rid of the very unpopular secret vote counting machines and restore our Constitutional right to make sure that our vote was counted accurately in public. Certainly, if they only knew, at least one of them would stand up for our right to overthrow our government through peaceful means at the ballot box on election day, wouldn’t one?

Well, no!?!?! They have all been informed, and not one has taken action. See http://www.projectvotecount.com/documents/Action_Letters.pdf

That’s right. They know that counting votes in secret is unconstitutional. They know that the public is worried about elections being stolen. This is why they routinely say that they will make sure that our votes are counted. Yeah, right? I believed that line of BS and sent money to support one candidate, but guess what, his campaign chairman told me that they had decided not to talk about problems with the election machines and that as a result, he didn’t tell the candidate that counting votes in secret is specifically prohibited by Virginia’s Constitution, South Carolina’s Constitution, and some United States Supreme Court decisions.

That’s right every campaign knows about this, but not a single one will take action, or "tell" the candidate about the Constitutional prohibitions against counting votes in secret. They won’t "tell" the candidates that 92% of Americans are worried about the dangers of secret vote counting. Of course, I also handed the Zogby poll information directly to three of the Presidential candidates, and they all seemed very interested in it. However, they weren’t interested enough to take action. No one can see any opportunity to win here, right? It might scare voters away if someone stood up to make sure that our votes were actually counted as required by our Constitutions, right? Sure, if you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you, cheap. Just send cash, and I’ll send the papers right away.

If you are one of that vast majority of Americans who do not want your votes to be "counted" in secret, step up, take action, call the Presidential candidate of your choice and ask them to take action to end the unconstitutional practice of counting votes in secret or tell them to send your contributions back to you. It will help us bring this issue to the forefront throughout the United States, or at least, you might get a refund. I’m going to do it to the candidate that I sent money to, and I’m sure that you can imagine how persuasive I might be. That’s a story that will have to wait for a few days though. Let them sweat for a while.

For information about action being taken in Florida, Texas, and Ohio to make sure that our votes are counted accurately, see Project Vote Count www.ProjectVoteCount.com

For more election news that you didn’t hear about from the corporate media cartel or all of those organizations which claim that they are looking out for your rights, see Project Vote Count’s Election News http://www.projectvotecount.com/ElectionNews.aspx

To see the Zogby poll and other important information about voting, go to Project Vote Count’s FAQ page http://www.projectvotecount.com/faq.aspx

To stay informed, sign up for Project Vote Count’s email list at www.ProjectVoteCount.com

If you like learning about the many important things that the corporate media cartel wants to keep you in the dark on, support OpEdNews with a donation at http://opednews.com/donate/ If you like my work, support it with a donation at http://www.projectvotecount.com/donate.aspx

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Mark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department. Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to require his inclusion in the Gubernatorial debates. Mark also represented John Russell, Clint Curtis, Frank Gonzalez, and others in contesting the official results of the 2006 elections in Florida state court and before the U.S. House of Representatives. Mark has been involved in the judicial reform movement since 2003, the media reform movement since 2004, and the election reform movement since 2006. Before those years, he believed that judges followed the law, that our media told us the truth, and that our votes were counted. Beliefs that most of us once held and that many still hold on to. Unfortunately, Mark, like many of us, learned that these beliefs were no longer true. However, Mark believes that we can counteract the forces which have destroyed these institutions if we face reality and take action before it is too late. Mark asks that you please remember that the American dream will die and our children will suffer if the people do not know what their government leaders are doing, if the people are not able to vote ineffective or corrupt leaders out of office, or if judges can ignore the law and the facts with no repercussions!

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Mark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

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Mark AdamsMark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

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Mark Adams Questions Virginia Board of Elections Staff

Yes, Virginia, your elections are unconstitutional, and frankly, no one in power gives a damn! Technically, they say that they did not know that computers count in secret, that Virginia's Constitutional prohibition against counting votes in secret isn't really clear and doesn't Federal law control everything any way, and that no one even really thought about this secret vote counting issue that they know of. If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you, cheap. Just send cash, and I’ll send the papers right away.

Video - Mark Adams Questions Virginia Board of Elections Staff http://markadams.blip.tv/file/665536/

Everyone knows that the people are supposed to be able to peacefully remove bad leaders through elections, but what if those who control the machines, and their secret vote count, want bad leaders in power? Is there another way that citizens can prevent abuse of power without resorting to violence?

Yes, there is or was another way to hold our governors accountable without resorting to violence. A few of you may already know about this, but if not, I’m sure that you’ll want to find out about the other civil check on government abuse of power that our Founders provided for us. If so, read What Happens When the People Lose the Power to Control Government and What You Can Do to Take the Power Back? http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mark_ada_080204_what_happens_when_th.htm

If you care about the safety of your family, read this article now, and send it to all of your contacts today. Now is the time for action!

For information about action being taken in Florida, Texas, and Ohio to make sure that our votes are counted accurately, see Project Vote Count www.ProjectVoteCount.com Jump into the fray to make sure our votes are counted accurately. It only takes one day to make a big difference!

by Mark Adams (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 181 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 10:33:35 AM
 


10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,
Gallaher10 year Navy veteran,former Federal employee with various agencies,

Where did I see this before?

This looks like the same article about South Carolina with the name changed Virginia.

As I said before, the constitution in question refers to "general elections", Not party elections referred to as primary elections. People can hold secret society elections like the secret nose pickers society's super secret election and membership. Republicans and Democrats are secret societies like the one I mentioned.

The various constitutions really mean very little these days anyway to your various governments.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 608 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 6:07:25 PM
 


Mark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mark AdamsMark A. Adams earned his BA in business administration with a major in finance and a minor in economics at the University of South Florida. He earned his law degree and his master of business administration at the University of Florida where he also worked as a teaching assistant in the Economics Department.

Mark practiced law in Florida. In 2006, Mark represented Max Linn, the Reform Party candidate for Governor of Florida, in successful lawsuits brought against the media to re...

to see more of bio, click on member name

The Second String is Back! It's Time to Play Softball?!?

Gallaher, thank you for making another laughable attempt to mislead. It’s always fun to expose someone who is a flack for those who gave us secret vote counting and want to stay in power by keeping it.

Your previous attempt can be found at http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_mark_a___080114_south_carolina_elect.htm along with information showing that counting votes in secret is specifically prohibited in South Carolina’s elections and showing the lengths that those in power will go to keep the public in the dark.

Your bio on OpEdNews says that you ran for Congress. I’m curious. Did you speak out against counting votes in secret? Certainly, you would have understood that counting votes in secret might lead to problems like, stolen elections, right? Is that why you lost? Are you for counting votes in secret now? It sure sounds like it.

Your bio also says that you are a veteran and a former Federal government employee. I’m a former veteran, too, and I think that most veterans and current members of the military would be disgusted by your efforts to undermine democracy, your attempts to make fun of those who are working to restore it, and your statement that "constitutions really mean very little." After all, I swore to defend our Constitution, didn’t you?

You state, "the constitution in question refers to "general elections." However, that is false. Try reading something before you post a comment next time. I included the link in the article, but here it is again http://legis.state.va.us/constitution/a2s3.htm

You "former" Feds might want to try to disguise yourselves a little better and try to think of arguments that are a little better than a blatant lie or saying an election is not an election. I already schooled a self-anointed "election integrity advocate" who made the same specious "a primary election is not an election" claim about South Carolina. I wonder, how come you two geniuses didn’t bother to look into the difference between a caucus and a primary election?

Let’s see, a caucus is conducted by a party while a primary election is conducted by the state. A party can make rules for its caucus and it has a tremendous amount of leeway. However, a party could not say that African Americans or Catholics cannot vote or be elected in its caucus, but a party may be able to pass a rule allowing votes in its caucus to be counted in secret if there were enough morons to support such a rule. Yet, who would join a party where they had no input in picking leaders? Who would support such a party?

Any way, Virginia and South Carolina conduct primary elections not caucuses. These primary elections are conducted by the state, and therefore, they must comply with state law which of course includes the state constitution.

Once again Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution of Virginia states, "Secrecy in casting votes shall be maintained, except as provision may be made for assistance to handicapped voters, but the ballot box or voting machine shall be kept in public view and shall not be opened, nor the ballots canvassed nor the votes counted, in secret."

Do you see an exception for a primary election? Do you understand the difference between a caucus and a primary now? So, what if the State and some bureaucrat in a black robe say a primary does not qualify as an election under the Constitution, do you think that the public would buy a boatload of BS like that? How many readers do you think that you convinced?

by Mark Adams (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 181 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 10:52:00 PM
 

 

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