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January 14, 2008 at 11:56:43
Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11 by Alan Miller 
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Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret), is a former Army Intelligence Officer who also served as an inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team. He is one of many signers of a petition [14] requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11.
In 2005, he wrote: “As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ... Dec. 13, 2007 - Seven Senior Federal Engineers and Scientists Call for New 9/11 Investigation - Official Account of 9/11: “Impossible”, “A Bunch of Hogwash”, “Fatally Flawed” featured statements by:
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Official Account of 9/11: “Impossible”, “A Bunch of Hogwash”, “Total B.S.”, “Ludicrous”, “A Well-Organized Cover-up”, “A White-Washed Farce”
January 14, 2008 – Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story. The officers’ statements appear below, listed alphabetically.
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD
“A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible,” said Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret). [1] With doctoral degrees in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Col. Bowman served as Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.
“There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up,” continued Col. Bowman. “Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible. Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.”
Regarding the failure of NORAD to intercept the four hijacked planes on 9/11, Col. Bowman said, “I'm an old interceptor pilot. I know the drill. I've done it. I know how long it takes. I know the rules. … Critics of the government story on 9/11 have said: ‘Well, they knew about this, and they did nothing’. That's not true. If our government had done nothing that day and let normal procedure be followed, those planes, wherever they were, would have been intercepted, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive.” [2]
During his 22-year Air Force career, Col. Bowman also served as the Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. He also flew over 100 combat missions in Viet Nam as a fighter pilot.
Lt. Jeff Dahlstrom
Former U.S. Air Force pilot Lt. Jeff Dahlstrom wrote in a 2007 statement to this author, “When 9/11 occurred I bought the entire government and mainstream media story line. I was a lifelong conservative Republican that voted for Bush/Cheney, twice. Curiosity about JFK’s death, after a late night TV re-run of Oliver Stone’s movie, got me started researching and digging for the truth about his assassins.
“My research led me to a much more important and timely question: the mystery of what really did happen on 9/11. Everything that seemed real, turned out to be false. The US government and the news media, once again, were lying to the world about the real terrorists and the public murder of 2,972 innocents on 9/11.
“The ‘Patriot Act’ was actually written prior to 9/11 with the intention of destroying the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. It was passed by Congress, based upon the government's myth of 9/11, which was in reality a staged hoax. 9/11 was scripted and executed by rogue elements of the military, FAA, intelligence, and private contractors working for the US government.
“In addition to severely curtailing fundamental rights of Americans, the 9/11 crime was then used by this administration, the one I originally voted for and supported, to justify waging two preemptive wars (and most likely a third war), killing over 4,500 American soldiers, and killing over one million innocent Afghan and Iraqi people.
“It was all premeditated. Treason, a false flag military operation, and betrayal of the trust of the American people were committed on 9/11 by the highest levels of the US government and not one person responsible for the crimes, or the cover-up, has been held accountable for the last six years.
“After reading fifteen well-researched books, studying eight or nine DVD documentaries, and devoting months of personal research and investigation, I have arrived at one ultimate conclusion: The American government and the US Constitution have been hijacked and subverted by a group of criminals that today are the real terrorists. They are in control of the US government and they have all violated their oaths of office and committed treason against their own citizens.”
Capt. Daniel DavisCapt. Daniel Davis is a former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. After his military service, Capt. Davis served for 15 years as a Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division and then devoted an additional 15 years as founder and CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company.
In a statement to this author, Capt. Davis wrote, “As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.”
Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam, Capt. Davis also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area.
Capt. Davis continued, “Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!
“Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is difficult for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled ‘terrorists’. Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a ‘Conspiracy Theory’ does not change the truth. It seems, ‘Something is rotten in the State’.”
Major Jon I. Fox is a former U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot and a retired commercial airline pilot for Continental Airlines with a 35-year commercial aviation career. In 2007, in support of the Architects and Engineers[3] petition to reinvestigate 9/11, he wrote, “On hearing the military (NORAD/NEAD) excuses for no intercepts on 9/11/2001, I knew from personal experience that they were lying. I then began re-checking other evidence and found mostly more lies from the ‘official spokesmen’. Jet fuel fires at atmospheric pressure do not get hot enough to weaken steel. Structures do not collapse through themselves in free fall time with only gravity as the powering force.” [4]
Commander Ralph KolstadRetired U.S. Navy ‘Top Gun’ pilot Commander Ralph Kolstad started questioning the official account of 9/11 within days of the event. In a statement to this author, he wrote, “It just didn’t make any sense to me,” he said. And now six years after 9/11 he says, “When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official story.” [5]
Commander Kolstad was a top-rated fighter pilot during his 20-year Navy career. Early in his career, he was accorded the honor of being selected to participate in the Navy’s ‘Top Gun’ air combat school, officially known as the U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School. The Tom Cruise movie “Top Gun” reflects the experience of the young Navy pilots at the school. Eleven years later, Commander Kolstad was further honored by being selected to become a ‘Top Gun’ adversary instructor.
Commander Kolstad had a second career after his 20 years of Navy active and reserve service and served as a commercial airline pilot for 27 years, flying for American Airlines and other domestic and international careers. He flew Boeing 727, 757 and 767, McDonnell Douglas MD-80, and Fokker F-100 airliners. He has flown a total of over 23,000 hours in his career.
Commander Kolstad is especially critical of the account of American Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon. He says, “At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757’s and 767’s and I could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.”
Commander Kolstad adds, “I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft. I could not have done what these beginners did. Something stinks to high heaven!”
He points to the physical evidence at the Pentagon impact site and asks in exasperation, “Where is the damage to the wall of the Pentagon from the wings? Where are the big pieces that always break away in an accident? Where is all the luggage? Where are the miles and miles of wire, cable, and lines that are part and parcel of any large aircraft? Where are the steel engine parts? Where is the steel landing gear? Where is the tail section that would have broken into large pieces?”
But no major element of the official account of 9/11 is spared from Commander Kolstad’s criticism. Regarding the alleged impact site of United Airlines Flight 93 near Shanksville, PA, he asks, “Where is any of the wreckage? Of all the pictures I have seen, there is only a hole! Where is any piece of a crashed airplane? Why was the area cordoned off, and no inspection allowed by the normal accident personnel? Where is any evidence at all?”
Commander Kolstad also questions many aspects of the attack on the World Trade Center. “How could a steel and concrete building collapse after being hit by a Boeing 767? Didn’t the engineers design it to withstand a direct hit from a Boeing 707, approximately the same size and weight of the 767? The evidence just doesn’t add up.”
“Why did the second building collapse before the first one, which had been burning for 20 minutes longer after a direct hit, especially when the second one hit was just a glancing blow? If the fire was so hot, then why were people looking out the windows [6] and in the destroyed areas? Why have so many members of the New York Fire Department reported seeing or hearing many ‘explosions’ before the buildings collapsed?”
Commander Kolstad summarized his frustration with the investigation and disbelief of the official account of 9/11, “If one were to act as an accident investigator, one would look at the evidence, and then construct a plausible scenario as to what led to the accident. In this case, we were told the story and then the evidence was built to support the story. What happened to any intelligent investigation? Every question leads to another question that has not been answered by anyone in authority. This is just the beginning as to why I don’t believe the official ‘story’ and why I want the truth to be told.”
Lt. Col. Karen KwiatkowskiA Pentagon eye-witness and a former member of the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency, Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret), is a severe critic of the official account of 9/11. A contributing author to the 2006 book 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out, she wrote, “I believe the [9/11] Commission failed to deeply examine the topic at hand, failed to apply scientific rigor to its assessment of events leading up to and including 9/11, failed to produce a believable and unbiased summary of what happened, failed to fully examine why it happened, and even failed to include a set of unanswered questions for future research.”
She continued, “It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics.”
Col. Kwiatkowski was working in the Pentagon on 9/11 in her capacity as Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense when Flight 77 allegedly hit the Pentagon. She wrote, “There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the Secretary of Defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a ‘missile.’ [7] [Secretary Rumsfeld also publicly referred to Flight 93 as the plane that was "shot down" over Pennsylvania.[8] ]
“I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. ... [A]ll of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.
“The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight.
“The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon. ... More information is certainly needed regarding the events of 9/11 and the events leading up to that terrible day.”
The improbability of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 is a major concern of these officers and a growing number of scientists, engineers and architects. The building was 610 feet tall, 47 stories, and would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11. In the 6 years since 9/11, the Federal government has failed to provide any explanation for the collapse. In addition to the failure to provide an explanation, absolutely no mention of Building 7’s collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's “full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.” [Video of the collapse can be seen at http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/WTC7_Collapse.wmv ]
Lt. Col. Shelton LankfordLt. Col. Shelton Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret), an attack pilot with over 300 combat missions, wrote in 2007 to the Michigan Daily,[9] “Our government has been hijacked by means of a ‘new Pearl Harbor’ and a lot of otherwise good and decent people who are gullible enough to think that the first three steel-framed buildings in history fall down because they have some fires that the fire fighter on the scene said could be knocked down with a couple of hoses and through which people walked before they were photographed looking out the holes [10] where the plane hit. One of these, Building 7, was never hit by a plane and even NIST is ashamed to advance a reason for its collapse. And, miracle of miracles, these three buildings just happened to be leased and insured by the same guy who is on tape [11] saying they decided to ‘PULL’ the last one to fall.”
During his 20 year military career, Col. Lankford's decorations include the Distinguished Flying Cross, and 32 awards of the Air Medal.
In a statement to this author, Col. Lankford wrote, “September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment. It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad. Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger.”
Lt. Col. Jeff LatasAnother harsh critic of the official account of 9/11 is Lt. Col. Jeff Latas, U.S. Air Force (ret). A former combat fighter pilot, Col. Latas is currently a commercial airline pilot.
Col. Latas is a member of Pilots for 9/11 Truth. In 2007 he was interviewed by the group’s founder, commercial airline pilot, Rob Balsamo,[12] regarding the group’s documentary video, Pandora's Black Box, Chapter 2, Flight of American 77, [13] which focuses on the 9/11 Commission's account of the impact of Flight 77 at the Pentagon and discrepancies with the data from the Flight Data Recorder alleged by the NTSB to be from Flight 77.
In the interview, Col. Latas said, “After I did my own analysis of it, it's obvious that there's discrepancies between the two stories; between the 9/11 Commission and the flight data recorder information. And I think that's where we really need to focus a lot of our attention to get the help that we need in order to put pressure on government agencies to actually do a real investigation of 9/11. And not just from a security standpoint, but from even an aviation standpoint, like any accident investigation would actually help the aviators out by finding reasons for things happening.”
A highly decorated fighter pilot, Col. Latas was awarded the Distinguish Flying Cross for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals. His combat experience includes Desert Storm and four tours of duty in Northern and Southern Watch. During his 20-year Air Force career, he also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer, as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and as President, U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board.
Col. Latas concluded, “And I think that we Americans need to demand further investigation just to clarify the discrepancies that you've [Pilots for 9/11 Truth] found. And I think that we need to be getting on the phone with our Congressmen and women and letting them know that we don't accept the excuses that we're hearing now, that we want true investigators to do a true investigation.”
Capt. Eric H. May
Commander Ted Muga
Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either
A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...
B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ...” [15]
Commander Ted Muga, U.S. Navy (ret), is a Navy aviator, who, after retirement, had a second career as a commercial airline pilot for Pan-Am.
In a 2007 interview on the Alex Jones Show, [16] Commander Muga stated, “The maneuver at the Pentagon was just a tight spiral coming down out of 7,000 feet. And a commercial aircraft, while they can in fact structurally somewhat handle that maneuver, they are very, very, very difficult. And it would take considerable training. In other words, commercial aircraft are designed for a particular purpose and that is for comfort and for passengers and it's not for military maneuvers. And while they are structurally capable of doing them, it takes some very, very talented pilots to do that. ... I just can't imagine an amateur even being able to come close to performing a maneuver of that nature.
“And as far as hijacking the airplanes, once again getting back to the nature of pilots and airplanes, there is no way that a pilot would give up an airplane to hijackers. ... I mean, hell, a guy doesn't give up a TV remote control much less a complicated 757. And so to think that pilots would allow a plane to be taken over by a couple of 5 foot 7, 150 pound guys with a one-inch blade boxcutter is ridiculous.
“And also in all four planes, if you remember, none of the planes ever switched on their transponder to the hijack code. There's a very, very simple code that you put in if you suspect that your plane is being hijacked. It takes literally just a split-second for you to put your hand down on the center console and flip it over. And not one of the four planes ever transponded a hijack code, which is most, most unusual. ...
“Commercial airplanes are very, very complex pieces of machines. And they're designed for two pilots up there, not just two amateur pilots, but two qualified commercial pilots up there. And to think that you're going to get an amateur up into the cockpit and fly, much less navigate, it to a designated target, the probability is so low, that it's bordering on impossible.”
Col. George Nelson“In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident,” wrote Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret), a former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. [17]
“The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view,” continued Col. Nelson, a graduate of the U.S. Air Force War College and a 34-year Air Force veteran.
“With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …
“As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history.”
Maj. John M. Newman, PhD
Capt. Omar Pradhan
Col. Ronald D. RayMaj. John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army (ret), is the former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency. In testimony before a 2005 Congressional briefing, he said, “It falls to me this morning to bring to your attention the story of Saeed Sheikh, whose full name is Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, and his astonishing rise to power in Al Qaeda, his crucial role in 9/11, which is completely, utterly, missing from the 9/11 Commission report…
“The 9/11 Commission which studied US intelligence and law enforcement community performance in great detail, (maybe not so much great detail, but they did), neglected to cover the community’s performance during the weeks following the attacks to determine who was responsible for them, not a word about that in the Report.
“The Report does discuss the immediate US responses but the immediate investigation is never addressed, and anyone who has closely studied the post-9/11 investigation knows that the first breakthrough came two weeks into the investigation when the money transfers from the United Arab Emirates to the hijackers were uncovered.
“Furthermore, if you have studied that investigation, you know there is no disputing that while investigators may have struggled with the identity of the paymaster, they were clear about one thing, he was Al Qaeda’s finance chief. For this reason alone you have to ask why the 9/11 Commission Report never mentions the finance chief’s role as the 9/11 paymaster.” [18]
Capt. Omar Pradhan, U.S. Air Force, is a former AWACS command pilot and Flight Instructor at the U.S. Air Force Academy. In a 2007 statement to this author, Capt. Pradhan wrote, “As a proud American, as a distinguished USAF E-3 AWACS Aircraft Commander (with 350+ hours of combat time logged over Afghanistan and Iraq), and as a former U.S. Air Force Academy Flight Instructor, I warmly endorse the professional inquiry and pursuit of comprehensive truth sought by the Pilots for 911 Truth organization and the PatriotsQuestion911 website.”
Another senior officer questioning the official account of 9/11 is Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret), Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan. A highly decorated Vietnam veteran (two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart), he was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to serve on the American Battle Monuments Commission (1990 – 1994), and the 1992 Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces. He was Military Historian and Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center, Washington, D.C. (1990 – 1994).
In an interview on Alex Jones’ radio show on June 30, 2006 [19], Col. Ray described the official account of 9/11 as “the dog that doesn’t hunt”, meaning it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. In response to Alex Jones’ question, “Is it safe to say or is the statement accurate that you smell something rotten in the state of Denmark when it comes to 9/11?” Col. Ray replied,“I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that that's accurate. That's true.”
“After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back,” wrote Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret), in a statement to this author.
A retired fighter pilot, Col. Razer served as an instructor at the U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program and flew combat missions over Iraq. He continued, “The ‘collapse’ of WTC Building 7 shows beyond any doubt that the demolitions were pre-planned. There is simply no way to demolish a 47-story building (on fire) over a coffee break. It is also impossible to report the building’s collapse before it happened, as BBC News did,[20] unless it was pre-planned. Further damning evidence is Larry Silverstein's video taped confession in which he states ‘they made that decision to pull [WTC 7] and we watched the building collapse.’[21]
“We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to ‘support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic’. Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it,” he concluded.
Maj. Scott Ritter
Maj. Douglas Rokke, PhD
Lt. Col. Anthony ShafferMaj. Scott Ritter, U.S. Marine Corps, is a former Marine Corps Intelligence Officer who also served as Chief Weapons Inspector for the United Nations Special Commission in Iraq 1991 - 1998. In 2005, he said: “I, like the others, are frustrated by the 9/11 Commission Report, by the lack of transparency on the part of the United States government, both in terms of the executive branch and the legislative branch when it comes to putting out on the table all facts known to the 9/11 case.” [22]
Maj. Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret), former Director of the U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project and 30-year veteran, had this to say about the explosion at the Pentagon on 9/11, “When you look at the whole thing, especially the crash site void of airplane parts, the size of the hole left in the building and the fact the projectile's impact penetrated numerous concrete walls, it looks like the work of a missile. And when you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile.” [23]
The 9/11 Commission Report asserts that only three of the alleged hijackers were known to U.S. intelligence agencies prior to 9/11: Nawaf al-Hazmi, Salem al-Hazmi, and Khalid al-Mihdar. There is no mention in the Report that the names and photographs of alleged hijacker Marwan al-Shehhi and alleged ring-leader Mohamed Atta had been identified by the Department of Defense anti-terrorist program known as Able Danger more than a year prior to 9/11 and that they were known to be affiliates of al-Qaida. Able Danger also identified Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdar.
In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee in 2006 [24], Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, U.S. Army Reserve, former Chief of the Army’s Controlled HUMINT (Human Intelligence) Program, overseeing Army Intelligence and Security Command’s global controlled HUMINT efforts, stated: “[B]asic law enforcement investigative techniques, with 21st Century data mining and analytical tools ... resulted in the establishment of a new form of intelligence collection – and the identification of Mohammed Atta and several other of the 9-11 terrorists as having links to Al Qaeda leadership a full year in advance of the attacks. ...
“After contact by two separate members of the ABLE DANGER team, … the 9-11 [Commission] staff refused to perform any in-depth review or investigation of the issues that were identified to them. … It was their job to do a thorough investigation of these claims – to not simply dismiss them based on what many now believe was a ‘preconceived’ conclusion to the 9-11 story they wished to tell. … I consider this a failure of the 9-11 staff – a failure that the 9-11 Commissioners themselves were victimized by – and continue to have perpetrated on them by the staff as is evidenced by their recent, groundless conclusion that ABLE DANGER’s findings were ‘urban legend’.”
A 23-year military intelligence veteran, Col. Shaffer was recently awarded the Bronze Star for bravery in Afghanistan. In a 2005 interview on Fox News, Col Shaffer asked, “Why did this operation, which was created in '99 to target Al Qaeda globally, offensively, why was that turned off in the Spring of 2001, four months before we were attacked? I can't answer that, either. I can tell you I was ordered out of the operation directly by a two-star general.” [25]
Supporting Col. Shaffer’s statement, Capt. Scott J. Phillpott, U.S. Navy, currently Commanding Officer of the guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf and former head of the Able Danger data mining program, stated in 2005: “I will not discuss this outside of my chain of command. I have briefed the Department of the Army, the Special Operations Command and the office of (Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence) Dr. Cambone as well as the 9/11 Commission. My story has remained consistent. Atta was identified by Able Danger in January/February 2000.” [26] Capt. Phillpott is a U.S. Naval Academy graduate, who during his 23 years of Navy service has been awarded the Legion of Merit, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, three Meritorious Service Medals, the Joint Service Commendation Medal, two Navy Commendation Medals, and the Navy Achievement Medal.
Joel Skousen
Gen. Albert StubblebineFormer U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot Joel M. Skousen also questions the official account of 9/11. After his military service, Mr. Skousen served as Chairman of the Conservative National Committee in Washington DC and Executive Editor of Conservative Digest.
“In the March 2005 issue, PM [Popular Mechanics] magazine singled out 16 issues or claims of the 9/11 skeptics that point to government collusion and systematically attempted to debunk each one. Of the 16, most missed the mark and almost half were straw men arguments - either ridiculous arguments that few conspiracists believed or restatements of the arguments that were highly distorted so as to make them look weaker than they really were. ...
“I am one of those who claim there are factual arguments pointing to conspiracy, and that truth is not served by taking cheap shots at those who see gaping flaws in the government story ... There is significant evidence that the aircraft impacts did not cause the collapse [of the Twin Towers] ...
The issues of the penetration hole [at the Pentagon] and the lack of large pieces of debris simply do not jive with the official story, but they are explainable if you include the parking lot video evidence that shows a huge white explosion at impact. This cannot happen with an aircraft laden only with fuel. It can only happen in the presence of high explosives.” [27]
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret), former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM), is a strong critic of the official account of 9/11. In a 2006 video documentary he said, “One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?” [28]
During his 32-year Army career, Gen. Stubblebine also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Gen. Stubblebine is one of the inductees into the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame. [29]
“There is a well-organized cover-up of the events of 11 Sep 2001. The 9/11 Commission was a white-washed farce. There is evidence that US Government officials had advance knowledge of and are probably implicated in the events of 9/11,” wrote retired military physician, Col. James R. Uhl, MD, U.S. Army (ret), in a statement to this author.
“A huge body of physical evidence has been ignored, suppressed, and ridiculed by the media and by our Government. Why did WTC 7 collapse? It was never hit by an airplane and was apparently brought down by explosives. How could Al-Qaida terrorists have had access and time to plant bombs in a top secret installation? Why did the 9/11 Commission fail to seek the reason for the WTC 7 collapse?” continued Col. Uhl, a 38-year Army veteran, who served in several theaters of operations, from Viet Nam through Iraq.
Capt. Russ WittenbergCapt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force, is a former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions and a retired commercial pilot, who flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years.
According to Capt. Wittenberg, “The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S., plain and simple.”[30]
In the 2007 documentary video, 9/11 Ripple Effect,[31] he said “I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower.
“I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist, to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding its design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it.” [32]
Regarding Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, Capt. Wittenberg said, ”The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous ... It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. … The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile.”[33]
Col. Ann Wright
Capt. Gregory ZeiglerAnother senior officer questioning the official account of 9/11 is Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret), who said in a 2007 interview with Richard Greene on the Air America Radio Network, “It's incredible some of these things that still are unanswered. The 9/11 Report -- that was totally inadequate. I mean the questions that anybody has after reading that.” [34]
Col. Wright is one of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003. She served for 13 years on active duty and 16 additional years on reserve duty in the U.S. Army. She joined the Foreign Service in 1987 and served for 16 years as a U.S. Diplomat. She served as Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan and she helped reopen the U.S. Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001.
She continued in her interview: “How could our national intelligence and defense operations be so inept that they could not communicate; that they could not scramble jets; that they could not take defensive action? And I totally agree. I always thought the Pentagon had all sorts of air defense sort of equipment around it; that they could take out anything that was coming at it. And for a plane to be able to just fly low right over Washington and slam into that thing is just -- I mean, you still just shake your head. How in the world could that happen?”
Capt. Gregory M. Zeigler, PhD, is a former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. In a 2006 statement to this author, Capt. Zeigler wrote, “I knew from September 18, 2001, that the official story about 9/11 was false. That was when I realized that the perpetrators had made a colossal blunder in collapsing the South Tower first, rather than the North Tower, which had been hit more directly and earlier.
“Other anomalies poured in rapidly: the hijackers' names appearing in none of the published flight passenger lists, BBC reports of stolen identities of the alleged hijackers or the alleged hijackers being found alive, the obvious demolitions of WTC 1 and 2 and WTC 7, the lack of identifiable Boeing 757 wreckage at the Pentagon, the impossibility of ordinary cell phone (as opposed to Airfone) calls being made consistently from passenger aircraft at cruising altitude, etc., etc., etc.”
Shortly after the release of the 9/11 Commission Report, a group of over 100 prominent Americans signed a petition [35] urging Congress to immediately reinvestigate 9/11. In addition to two former senior CIA officials [36] and several U.S. State Department veterans, [37] the signers included Lt. Col. Robert Bowman and Capt. Eric H. May, both mentioned above.
The petition stated, in part, “We want truthful answers to questions such as:
1. Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
2. Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?
3. Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?
4. Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?
5. Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?”
These questions and many others still remain unanswered three years after the petition was submitted and six years after the terrible events of 9/11. As the statements of these twenty-five former U.S. military officers demonstrate, the need for a new thorough, and independent investigation of 9/11 is not a matter of partisan politics, nor the demand of irresponsible, deranged, or disloyal Americans. It is instead a matter of the utmost importance for America’s security and the future of the entire world.
Statements questioning the official account of 9/11 and calls for a new investigation by more than 800 credible individuals can be found at http://PatriotsQuestion911.com
Additional information about prominent skeptics of the official account of 9/11 can be found in the author's other articles on this subject, listed below.
Jan. 5, 2008 - Eight U.S. State Department Veterans Challenge Official Account of 9/11 - Official Account of 9/11: “Flawed”, “Absurd”, “Totally Inadequate”, “a Cover-up” featured statements by:
Dec. 4, 2007 - Eight Senior Republican Appointees Challenge Official Account of 9/11 - “Not Possible”, “a Whitewash”, “False” featured statements by
Sept. 23, 2007 - Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report - Official Account of 9/11 a “Joke” and a “Cover-up” featured statements by CIA veterans Raymond McGovern, William Christison, Melvin Goodman, Robert Baer, Robert David Steele, Lynne Larkin, and David MacMichael.
Sept. 5, 2007 - U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' Pilot Questions 9/11, featured the statement of Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy ‘Top Gun’ pilot.
Sept. 4, 2007 - Former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member Calls for New Investigation of 9/11 featured the statement of Joel S. Hirschhorn, Ph.D., who served for 12 years as a Senior Staff Member of the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and later as Director of Environment, Energy and Natural Resources for the National Governors Association.
Aug. 27, 2007 - National Academy of Sciences Member Calls for New 9/11 Investigation featured the statement of Lynn Margulis, Ph.D., world renowned scientist.
Aug. 21, 2007 - Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation featured the statement of James Quintiere, Ph.D., one of the world's leading fire science researchers.
July 16, 2007 - Former California Seismic Safety Commissioner Endorses 9/11 Truth Movement featured the statement of J. Marx Ayres, former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council and former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission.
[1] Video of speech by Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD Sept. 11, 2004
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6900065571556128674
[2] Video of speech by Lt. Col. Robert Bowman at the American Scholars Symposium: 9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda June 25, 2006 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoqEQ7hb_4
[3] Architects and Engineers Petition to Reinvestigate 9/11 Signed by More Than 230 Architects and Engineers 2007
http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php
[4] Statement by Maj. Jon Fox in support of Architects and Engineers petition 2007
http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=998894
[5] U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' Pilot Questions 9/11 by Alan Miller Sept. 5, 2007
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070905_u_s__navy__top_gun__.htm
[6] Photos of WTC victim, Edna Cintron, waving inside impact hole in World Trade Center North Tower
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html#Cintron
[7] U.S. Department of Defense News Transcript Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with Parade Magazine Oct. 12, 2001
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=3845
[8] Speech by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in Baghdad Dec. 24, 2004
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
[9] Letter to the editor of the Michigan Daily by Lt. Col. Shelton Lankford Feb. 5, 2007
http://www.michigandaily.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=ddcccb1d-e57d-416e-928a-da5591786272#542c84e6-9719-4cfc-880c-6ceca6fad92e
[10] Photos of WTC victim, Edna Cintron, waving inside impact hole in World Trade Center North Tower
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html#Cintron
[11] Silverstein Answers WTC Building 7 Charges by Paul Joseph Watson Jan. 5, 2006
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers.htm
[12] Audio recording of interview of Lt. Col. Jeff Latas by Rob Balsamo June 25, 2007
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1858087487546809825&q=jeff+latas&total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5
[13] Video documentary Pandora's Black Box, Chapter 2, Flight of American 77 by Pilots for 9/11 Truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8672066571196607580&q=pandora%27s+black+box&total=42&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
[14] Petition to Reinvestigate 9/11 Signed by Over 100 Prominent Americans Oct. 26, 2004
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
[15] The American Reichstag Fire - 911 and Non-investigation by Capt. Eric May 2005
http://mujca.com/captain.htm
[16] Interview of Commander Ted Muga on the Alex Jones Show April 11, 2007
http://prisonplanet.tv/members/audio/110407muga.mp3 (Subscription required)
[17] Impossible to Prove a Falsehood True: Aircraft Parts as a Clue to their Identity by Col. George Nelson, MBA
http://www.physics911.net/georgenelson
[18] Testimony of Maj. John M. Newman, PhD, Congressional Briefing: The 9/11 Commission Report – One Year later July 22, 2005
http://www.vt911.org/McKinneyReport20050722transcript.pdf
[19] Radio interview of Col. Ronald D. Ray by Alex Jones, June 30, 2006 (Subscription required.) Summarized in July 1, 2006 article on propagandamatrix.com
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2006/010706doesnthunt.htm
[20] Time Stamp Confirms BBC Reported WTC 7 Collapse 26 Minutes In Advance by Paul Joseph Watson
Feb. 28, 2007
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/280207timestamp.htm
[21] Silverstein Answers WTC Building 7 Charges by Paul Joseph Watson Jan. 5, 2006
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers.htm
[22] Video recording of statement by Maj. Scott Ritter July 22, 3006
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1232419751782017310&q=%22ray+mcgovern%22&hl=en
[23] Radiation Expert Claims High-Radiation Readings Near Pentagon After 9/11 Indicate Depleted Uranium Used by Greg Szymanski Aug. 18, 2005
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/18-Aug-2005.html
[24] Testimony of Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer before the Armed Services Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, Feb. 15, 2006
http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/testimony/251.pdf
[25] Interview of Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer on Fox News Aug. 24, 2005
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1956542165192088795&hl=en
[26] Navy Captain Backs Able Danger Claims, Fox News Aug. 23, 2005
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166504,00.html
[27] Debunking The Debunkers by Joel Skousen Feb. 14, 2005
http://www.rense.com/general62/deun.htm
[28] Video documentary, One Nation Under Siege Gen. Albert Stubblebine’s statement can be viewed at
http://www.undersiegemovie.com/media/stubblebine.wmv
[29] Military Intelligence Hall of Fame Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Intelligence_Hall_of_Fame
[30] Former Vietnam Combat and Commercial Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was Inside Government Job by Greg Szymanski July 17, 2005
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/17-Jul-2005.html
[31] Video documentary 9/11 Ripple Effect by William Lewis and Dave vonKleist August, 2007
http://www.911rippleeffect.com/
[32] Pilot who flew 2 planes used on 9/11 doesn't believe official story by American Buddhist Net Sept. 13, 2007
http://americanbuddhist.net/pilot-who-flew-2-planes-used-9-11-doesnt-believe-official-story
[33] Interview of Capt. Russ Wittenberg Sept. 16, 2004
http://911underground.com/WING_TV_2004-09-16_Russ_Wittenberg_Interview.MP3
[34] Interview of Col. Ann Wright and Laurie Van Auken by Richard Greene on the Clout show on Air America Radio Network Sept. 11, 2007
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/aacl091107.mp3
[35] Petition to Reinvestigate 9/11 Signed by Over 100 Prominent Americans Oct. 26, 2004
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
[36] Seven CIA Veterans Challenge 9/11 Commission Report by Alan Miller Sept. 23, 2007
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070922_seven_cia_veterans_c.htm
[37] Eight U.S. State Department Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11 by Alan Miller Jan. 5, 2008
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_080104_eight_u_s__state_dep.htm
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Alan,
the introductory quotes, photos, and ability to send letters to the editor and congress are all really well-done. by George Washington (188 articles, 27 quicklinks, 189 diaries, 219 comments [17 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 12:50:59 PM  (0+)
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Reply: "former" military officers?
11, or 44% of the "former" military officers in this list claim they doubt a 757 crashed into the Pentagon say a missile likely caused the damage. This is way out of proportion to Americans in general. Polls show that 62% of Americans think Feds ignored specific warnings prior to 9/11, and that 36% think 9/11 was allowed or made to happen in order to go to war. Only 12% believe a missile hit the Pentagon. www.scrippsnews.com/911poll www.scrippsnews.com/node/28534 Are "former" military officers who question the official 9/11 story really more likely than most Americans to believe no 757 crashed at the Pentagon? This may not be a complete list of "former" military who question the official 9/11 account. It may just be that on this particular list, 44% of the officers on question whether a 757 hit the Pentagon, or state outright that a missile hit it. I don't claim to know for sure what hit the Pentagon, but it's far from conclusive that it wasn't a 757, and dozens of people reported seeing a 757 fly into the Pentagon, hundreds reported seeing it flying toward the Pentagon. It has been shown by 911research.wtc7.net and oilempire.us that a 757 could've caused the Pentagon damage, and the apparent lack of wreckage- the "missile" theory may be just a "red herring" designed to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement; Rumsfeld stated that a "missile" hit the Pentagon. The larger questions about the Pentagon attack are how anything could've hit the Pentagon with their ack guns and jet interceptors, how Hani Hanjour who couldn't fly a Cessna could've flown a 757, why the newly reinforced mostly empty side opposite the top brass was the one that was hit, why air defense procedures were altered the summer before 9/11 to put Rumsfeld in the loop who then couldn't be found the morning of 9/11, why there were so many war games surrounding 9/11 and what effect they had on the lack of response that morning. Murga addressed some of these and raised others, but didn't question what hit the Pentagon, at least in this article. Complete 9/11 Timeline- made from thousands of articles, sourced exclusively from the government and the corporate media; their own accounts and statements prove the lie of the official 9/11 story www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Schaffer and Phiillpot are whistleblowers who testified that Able Danger identified Atta a year before 9/11 and they were told to forget about him, and superiors tried to get them to cover it up and to destroy their careers and reputations. Newman notes the 9/11 Commission ignored Saeed Sheikh, who was known to be intimately involved in the money trail. Ritter is only quoted expressing frustration with the Commission's lack of depth and the government's lack of transparency. Wright expresses same, and also expresses disbelief in the explanation for the failure of air defense procedures. by Better World Order (4 articles, 568 quicklinks, 39 diaries, 1110 comments [56 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 11:41:52 PM (0+)
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Reply: JAPANESE LEGISLATOR CHARGES US WITH 9/11 LIES ON NAT'L TV
If you haven't seen the Japanese legislator who day before yesterday on national TV in Japan, charged the US with lying to Japan about how their citizens died on 9/11. HE WAS AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS ANY 9/11 TRUTH SEEKER. IT WAS AMAZING!! Go to below links to watch this 5 part video with english subtitles provided. SHARE THIS WIDELY!! by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:00:02 AM (0+)
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Reply: Some people would consider this an insult
by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:26:17 AM (0+)
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Thank you Alan and these Patriotic Officers
Patriot's Question 9/11 is a profound assett to all seeking 9/11 truth. I'm so glad that NY Times best selling novelist, Steve Alten, author of "The Shell Game" has placed PatriotsQuestion911.org front and center in the "911 Links" of his TheShellGame.net promotional website. Check it out, www.TheShellGame.net and also check out: Diary Entry by Bill Douglas by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 1:09:27 PM (0+)
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Reply: Also thanks to "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" !!
Pilots for 9/11 Truth is also a profound assett to all seeking 9/11 truth. I'm so glad that NY Times best selling novelist, Steve Alten, author of "The Shell Game" has placed "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" front and center in the "911 Links" of his TheShellGame.net promotional website as well. Check it out, www.TheShellGame.net Please, View the "911 Trailer" short video there, and share it widely. by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:01:38 PM (0+)
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Now What
If I murder one person I'm arrested and locked up. Times up, now pick up Dick Cheney and George Bush on suspicion of murder and if found guilty lock them up in an 8' X 8' X 8' open air cell no roof just like Gitmo and place them in the pit where the world Trade center once sat. Dick, the prick, was in charge of NORAD that morning the only time in history the VP took total command.NOW, because those ,Nancy,who fail to execute their charged constitutional duties will have blood on their hands if another false flag attack occurs . To the 911 a**hole commissioners since when do the potential master minds demand they testify together and not under oath in any viable investigation?And only for an hour,come on now. by tjb (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 255 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 1:42:35 PM (0+)
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I salute you and offer my thanks
I am moved to tears by this stunning piece by Alan Miller. I had been thinking of late that the honor code among military officers was dead, but now I see that it is not dead. Here are excepts from the honor code at West Point. The Cadet Honor Code. More from the Honor Code: The Corps of Cadets bears the responsibility to resolve all possible violations of the Code through detailed, independent investigations and, when required, Honor Investigative Hearings. If a cadet (or anyone else) suspects that a violation occurred, then she or he is expected to approach the individual to clarify what happened (this step is optional). If that approach resolves the issue; i.e., the cadet making the allegation realizes no Honor violation occurred, then the issue will be dropped. However, if the person making the allegation still believes a violation may have occurred, she or he is obligated to inform a member of the Honor Committee within 24 hours. Failure to do so is considered "toleration," which is itself a violation of the Honor Code (the 24 hour rule is a guideline, cadets are not automatically in violation of the Code if they take more than 24 hours to report a violation). Once a suspected violation is reported to a member of the Honor Committee, it must be investigated. The two Honor Committee members from the suspected cadet's company will do an initial inquiry and make a recommendation; then two members from outside the company will perform an investigation and make a recommendation; then the Regimental Honor Representative will review the case file and make a recommendation to the Vice-Chairperson for Investigations (VCI). The VCI is the first person who has the option to drop the case. If this decision (either forward or drop) is not in agreement with every other recommendation in the case file, then the Chairperson must make the final decision. If the case is forwarded to a hearing, the Commandant of Cadets must approve the decision and order that a hearing be convened. Here you find a simple description of the standard by which an honorable person behaves. These officers and former officers came forward. Their honor is preserved. I submit that George W. Bush is unfit to be Commander-in-Chief and I submit that this country should never allow another person to be Commander-in-Chief who cannot demonstrate that he or she is committed to living up to this same high standard. The lies and cheating that this administration has engaged in makes Bush unfit for the Presidency and it also makes those who have tolerated his behavior unfit to serve. Much of our military is in disarray because this standard no longer operates universally among its officers. The honor code has been damaged but obviously it is not destroyed. It still lives and beats in the many hearts. A full discussion and examination of the facts should now be undertaken by the American people to determine how long this betrayal of the Constitution and the codes of honor that exist at our military academies, in the hearts of its graduates, and also in the halls of Congress will continue. I salute and offer thanks to Alan Miller and these brave men and women who have come forward. May your example be a beacon to all who believe in honor and decency enough to walk the walk. by Mark A. Goldman (81 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 243 comments) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 2:16:27 PM (0+)
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Capt. Ziegler raises a very good point.
I think this may explain why the perpeTRAITORS had to bring down WTC2 when they did. Certainly the perps couldn't allow a bunch of firefighters to put out the fires, get the people out, and then tell the world that the building wasn't anywhere near ready to "collapse". Just from the communications of the firefighters, it's clear that there was no building-threatening, raging inferno nor any other indication that the building was coming down. The perpeTRAITORS were undoubtedly monitoring the firefighters' communications and probably felt they couldn't risk accumulating any more evidence in opposition to the fairy tales they would have to tell later. by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 2:31:12 PM (0+)
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Reply: The EXCELLENT Documentary "9/11 Mysteries" exposes this fact
The EXCELLENT Documentary "9/11 Mysteries" exposes this fact about the firefighters, and has live footage and radio of the firefighter saying the fires were isolated and controllable. At new york times best selling author, Steve Alten's website for his new 9/11 truth telling book, "The Shell Game"'s website: Under "911 Links" you'll see links to watch "9/11 Mysteries". Refer others to watch it to learn about what the above poster eloquently points out. by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 2:56:19 PM (0+)
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Reply: It's at the point now where "they know that we know"...
Actually, "they know that we know that they know we know"...(please excuse my "Rumsfeldian")...and so what it really boils down to is "watcha gonna do 'bout it?" That's basically what's in the air. You can feel it. And I now spend an appreciable amount of time wondering exactly what we're gonna do about it. Dan Ellsberg keeps calling for insiders to speak out...to come clean, but isn't that what Sibel Edmonds is trying to do...to no avail? The corruption is so wide and so deep, that nothing seems to be able to get any traction. by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 5:55:07 PM (0+)
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Reply: I believe...
That if EVERY American that questions the validity of the official story- regardless of their own personal opinion or theory as to what really happened, would STAND UP AS ONE we could actually get somewhere. But, when we have millions of people asking questons less then they are debating their theories and trying to discredit one other, we fail miserably. There s NO unified voice saying we demand a new investigation and only that. What we have is too many voices saying we need a new investigation because... by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:59:02 AM (0+)
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Reply: Yes, we need to grad ropes that can pull us up toward a new
Yes, we need to grad ropes that can pull us up toward a new investigation. Right now "The Shell Game" by NY Times best selling author is going into airports and book stores across the nation, with 9/11 truth research woven into its edu-tainment novel format. The Book's website www.TheShellGame.net leads readers to most of the major 9/11 truth research and activist groups and sites. It offers a 9/11 truth book trailer all can share widely. This book by a NY times best selling author, CAN BRING MILLIONS OF NEW EYES TO 9/11 TRUTH . . . IF WE AS A MOVEMENT CAN USE IT. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A 90 DAY WINDOW WHERE THIS BOOK "FLIES OR DIES". THE PUBLISHER HAS PURCHASED SPACE, PRIME SPACE AT BARNES & NOBLE, BORDERS, AIRPORTS, ETC. THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT CAN KEEP THIS 9/11 TRUTH PUSHING BOOK OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC . . . BY DOING ALL WE CAN TO DRIVE IT TO #1. You know those relatives and friends who were too overwhelmed by truth to look at your 9/11 truth docs or books? Well you can now send them or tell them about "This great action novel called THE SHELL GAME. Its a real page turner, you'll love it." And THE SHELL GAME will expose them to real 9/11 truth research, and next time you talk to them about 9/11 truth documentaries or research books, they'll have new ears and eyes to hear them. PLUS, if we can show publishers that 9/11 truth sells, we could encourage large independents all over America to take on more and more 9/11 truth books . . . creating a paradigm shift with our work. THIS IS ONE PROJECT WE CAN ALL RALLY AROUND . . . WE'VE GOT 90 DAYS . . . LET'S NOT WASTE TIME ARGUING. Spread the word about www.TheShellGame.net and check it out. It is a 9/11 TRUTH site!! THAT CAN PREACH WAY OUT BEYOND THE CHOIR!! by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:10:04 PM (0+)
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Reply: The Shell Game
This book has a power that the Truth movement does not. It is a work of fiction in a genre that is at the top of the heap. People who have never even heard of the Truth movement or who have not given us the time of day via conversation WILL read this book because of its presentation. I think as any kind of Truther, we need to do our best to help get this book on the best seller list and the only way to do that is to buy it. Once on the best seller list it will have a whole new kind of power and will generate conversations and readership unlike we have ever been able to accomplish. by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:27:45 PM (0+)
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Reply: Wrong floors
The firefighters never made it up to the floors where the collapse actually initiated. They were just under that point. Frank DeMartini actually radioed shortly before the collapse that the express elevator system in the core was in danger of immanent collapse. by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 1:26:03 PM (0+)
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Use a Flight Simulator
I know there are flight simulators that pilots can practice in, which accurately reflect real-life flying, including actual cockpits with working controls. Could we not program the pentagon scenario in to such a flight-sim and have pilots try to duplicate the maneuvers required to actually crash the plane into the pentagon? There are many pilots who say such flying is near impossible, especially for novice pilots like the 9/11 terrorists. They could have evidence in hand proving how difficult (or impossible) such flying is. by Jason Hears (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 2:59:13 PM (0+)
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Reply: Sorry, jason
Reality trumps computer games every time. by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:05:55 AM (0+)
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911 Truth
But don't listen to these people, or to the 100s of engineers, physicists and architects. Listen to a REAL expert, Bill Maher. by Bill Willers (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 50 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 3:12:00 PM (0+)
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Reply: How many strucutral engineers?
How many of the thousands of practicing structural engineers out there are truthers? by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:07:45 AM (0+)
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Reply: Roark, your statement wouldn't be so ridiculous IF
Roark, your statement wouldn't be so ridiculous IF all of the corporate media wasn't willfully censoring what Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org) has to say. IF all the engineers and architects in the nation were exposed to ALL the facts around 9/11 THEN you could make such a statement. UNTIL CORPORATE MEDIA STOPS IT BLOCKAIDE OF 9/11 TRUTH FACTS, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN JUDGE THE VALIDITY OF THEM, BY OPINION POLLS . . . HOWEVER IT IS INSTRUCTIVE TO NOTE THAT AE911TRUTH HAS NEVER FOUND ANYONE WILLING TO ARGUE THE GOVT.S 9/11 OFFICIAL STORY . . . GEE, WONDER WHY. Perhaps because the Official 9/11 Myth falls apart when anyone with any critical thinking skills, and doesn't work for the govt. takes the time to look at them. by Bill Douglas (69 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 4:48:31 PM (0+)
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Reply: Richard Gage
Has Gage ever worked on a building design larger than a high school gym? by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 7:37:05 AM (0+)
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My 3 days at WTC
I was there and well i should have not given the piece of auxillary engine to the FBI guy and i wish i could have had more insight to get facts and info but all i have is the following http://hometown.aol.com/danielegrl/myhomepage/news-crisis.html I do have some microfish and a piece of the lamp post with all the dust buried in one side and a firemans inner coat and a few pictures i took. I didn't like GWBush when he stopped the work. I also didn't like those who came to get their pictures. Oh i do have a video tape from a reporter who video taped me after my 3 days at WTC by DanielleClarke (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 3:27:21 PM (0+)
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Reply: Would you or have you...
Provided any of this *dust* from the lamp post to Dr Stephen Jones and Architect Richard Gage? They are currently doing actual forensic work. If you have not, please let me help you connect with Richard immediately- I am in direct contact wth him and you would not have to be passed through channels. You hold evidence that could be as legit as any other. Please contact me via the messaging program here at oped. by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:04:55 PM (0+)
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Brand New 9/11 Paper
Anomalies at the WTC and the Hutchison Effect by Judy Wood and John Hutchison by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [18 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 4:00:18 PM (0+)
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How the 9/11 Perpetrators Control Things
The 9/11 attacks, the 9/11 cover up, and the 9/11 "truth movement" were orchestrated by people associated with directed energy weapons and the media: 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [18 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 4:28:54 PM (0+)
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Great Piece!
Great piece Alan. Keep putting the pressure on these bastards. by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 1094 comments [65 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 4:43:11 PM (0+)
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Wow
Wow! Great compilation! And look at the CREDS on these guys! I came out myself with an editorial letter questioning what really happened three days later, and got a bomb threat to my front porch! Then came the "Patriot Act and in 2004 I got my hometown to pass a Resolution against it at Town Meetin'! Never give up! The TRUTH will OUT! Meanwhile, our wretched Mis-leader weasels his way around the Middle East trying to cook up WWIII with the Israelis, cranking up the same faulty rhetoric against Iran, while handing tons of BOMBS over to the Saudis! Need I remind anyone that of the 19 "Hi-jackers", FIFTEEN of them were SAUDIS!? Time for US to wipe 9/11 under Bush's nose like he does every time HE gets a chance! by Bia Winter (1 articles, 2 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 169 comments) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 5:30:41 PM (0+)
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Just Wondering...
I was just wondering where Tom Murphy, Roark and their rhetoric are? Awesome article with highly credible and credentialed individuals illuminating the gigantic holes in the Official Fabrication of The Monstrous Crime. Let's get some Justice Here! by boomerang (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 556 comments [215 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 5:56:20 PM (0+)
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Reply: perhaps because
ad hominem and derision only go so far. by richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 1359 comments [399 recommended, 8 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 9:21:04 PM (0+)
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Reply: My thoughts - for what they are worth
I think BWO in the first comment here pointed it out perfectly in that this a handpicked group of 100,000s of military officers. The selection was done to give the impression that they represent the a sizeable and significant portion of the military. Well, they don't. As a retired military officer with a science background, I find their statements reprehensible, but they are certainly entitled to make them. I would caution, though, with all such "prodessionals" (military and civilian), don't be overly impressed by the letters and titles associated with them. They put their pants on the same as your or I, one leg at a time. They can also make a mistake as readily as you or I. If you check into the pasts of some of these folks, they're obviously pushing their own or another's political agenda. by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2100 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 8:13:29 AM (0+)
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Reply: I'm here
and thoughouly enjoying watching you hang your hats on these nutcases. Bowman? that guys battier than an Austin underpass. by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:30:37 AM (0+)
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Re: U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official 911 Account"
by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 6:48:40 PM (0+)
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Great work.
This should be required reading. by Dave Berman (54 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 49 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 7:23:33 PM (0+)
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I regret that you're not in Congress
If the Florida Democratic Party and the DCCC had bothered to support you and the other progressive thinking retired military running in 2006, we'd have a different nation. But they did'nt, a process that should be examined. This is an outstanding presentation and a great group of patriots. Thanks to you and every one of them. by Michael Collins (130 articles, 20 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 484 comments [42 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 9:27:37 PM (0+)
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I'm So Not Alone
For over a year now I've been asking my Congresswoman and both Senators, along with many local politicians, newspapers, labor leaders etc., to please ask for a new 911 investigation. It is all so frustrating; they either don't respond, or when they do they treat you like you're a conspiracy kook. My eyes have been opened by doing months of research ino 911 and the cover-up. Alex Jones, the late Aaron Russo, the brave young people involved with the video of "Loose Change" and countless other 911 truthers. I wear my 911 was an inside job t-shirt, and have a bumper sticker that proclaims this also. The MSM, and just about all people in positions of power are afraid to touch this issue. We cannot let fear of our own government hinder us from demanding a new, truthful investigation into this horrible event. There are so many unanswered questions and so much doubt about what really happened on 911, and the attempt to cover it up. If what the government says is truthful, they would not be so fearful of a fresh investigation. A recent Zogby poll shows a majority of Americans believe we should have one. We must get the truth out there. As Alex Jones says so often, "Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself". We must! by ronheri (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 256 comments [45 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 9:37:41 PM (0+)
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Press Call
Would these creditable people and officers be amenable to getting together and holding a press conference say outside the Congressional offices? The mainstream liars would probably try to ignore it, but they would have a hard time doing that, wouldn't they? Just saying... by ibrahim turner (26 articles, 32 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 184 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Jan 14, 2008 at 9:58:06 PM (0+)
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Reply: I think...
This is a great idea, grow it into ALL that are questioning the official story... We desparately NEED everyone in the streets front and center and if it were done at ONE of the major msm outlets they wouldnt be able to ignor it. by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:10:00 PM (0+)
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How about a current officer?
I happen to be a military intelligence officer in the US Army, with 14 years of active duty time. by JR (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:46:23 AM (0+)
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Reply: Maybe They're Too Afraid to Speak
It always amazes me when a supposed intelligence officer with an IQ off the charts asks why none of the alleged conspirators has come forward to write a book. As if he/she would live long enough to make it to a Barnes and Noble signing. Not likely. I for one don't consider a 2 hour delay in scrambling jet interceptors -- the time between the first FAA notice of a hijacking and the crash of Flight 93 -- to be a minor mistake. Nor an explicable one for that matter. So too the failure of the CIA to report the entrance of al-Hazmi and al-Midhar into the U.S. after they attended a terrorist meeting in Kuala Lumpur. Not a minor oversight in the least. As to how one would sneak explosives into the buildings, my guess would be at night when everyone was sleeping off a hard day's work. And, I believe, one of the Bush brothers was on the board of the security company that had responsibility for the WTC in 2001. That would help. As to why the CIA didn't frame Saddam, well there might be some honest CIA officers out there who wouldn't allow it to happen. However, there was the story of Mohammed Atta meeting with Iraqi intelligence officers in Prague that floated around for years until it was finally disavowed by the CIA. So the mere suspicion of Saddam being in bed with al Qaeda along with the suspicion of having WMD's was enough to launch a war in Iraq. Both were proven incorrect, but that's just a minor detail for the historians now isn't it? Why 4 aircraft and not a bomb? That's easy. They needed something spectacular to launch 2 wars and curtail civil liberties. Hence the demolition of WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7, the collapse of the last of the three I and others here would beg you to explain minus explosives. What about the cell phone calls? We have the NSA to thank for those recordings, don't we? Those boys are good. They have voice recognition software that would blow your mind, or not since you claim to be an intel officer who should have knowledge of such things. So, yes, they are too easily faked to be relevant to this discussion. A final note about character and instinct. It took me 1-1/2 years before I finally questioned the official version of events. My instincts at first led me to believe what I later learned to be untrue, that al Qaeda alone was the culprit. Perhaps you are following the same route almost 5 years later. Or perhaps you are into disinformation. Frankly, I don't care if you are an honest seeker of information or not. That's on your soul, not mine. But I do know there is ample information that contradicts and calls into question the official version of events, and you shouldn't be disparaging the character of those who choose to ask some very hard questions, nor the character of those who have lost faith in their own government. Not after JFK, Bobby and MLK, Jr. You see, conspiracies are as American as apple pie. Start with the JFK affair and work forward into the present. You'll see a pattern of conspiracies forming from then to Watergate to Iran-Contra to Whitewater, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, the stolen 2000 election, 9/11 and the stolen 2004 election until now. And being an intel officer, I'm sure you're good at separating patterns from random noise. Unless you're just here to make some random noise of your own. by Sam Adams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 90 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 5:27:52 AM (0+)
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Reply: How long????
I for one don't consider a 2 hour delay in scrambling jet interceptors -- the time between the first FAA notice of a hijacking and the crash of Flight 93 -- to be a minor mistake. I think that there were planes airborne well before 93 crashed, although, what they would have been able to do is a moot point. What do you think should have been a reasonable time from the first indication of a hijacking to an actual intercept by an armed fighter? by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:43:28 AM (0+)
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Reply: Every single one
of your derisive complaints has been well answered elsewhere. See, for example, 911truth.org, Jim Hoffman's excellent site 911research.com, architects and engineers for 911truth (ae911truth dot org) or the journal of 911 studies and many more. Yours are not novel criticisms .. they are merely hackneyed tripe reminiscent of jref or the Hearst yellow journalism rag, Pop. Mech. Your rant is easily dismissed. by richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 1359 comments [399 recommended, 8 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 6:39:07 AM (0+)
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Reply: al qaeda
Al qaeda, al qaeda ,al qaeda run the sky is falling, the sky is falling,Pleassssse save me by tjb (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 255 comments [9 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 7:41:48 AM (0+)
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Reply: Got Duct Tape?
oh, and plastic sheeting? Al Qaida is thrust to the front as much as Bill Clinton. Doesn't it just make you sick there is no longer critical thinking for some? by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:18:45 PM (0+)
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Reply: Nothing you've said here even merits a substantive reply.
Your blog is a shameful embarrassment. Here's a great sample of your "thinking": Myth 5) The war was illegal Bottom line: You're just another ignorant, mentally and morally incompetent statist fool. by Harold Smith (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:48:19 AM (0+)
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Reply: I didn't check out the commenters blog
Interesting. As you know I agree with the commenter on 9-11 probably not being an inside job, but the invasion of Iraq was clearly illegal. That is demonstrable with an audit trail of public domain documents. by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 1308 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 1:12:45 AM (0+)
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Reply: yes I always...
call my mom from my cell phone and say "Mom, this is Cheri ROBERTS..." I thank you for your service to this country - I really do, but this statement and your refusal to look at more then what you have been taught/told is a DISSERVICE to our country. You took an oath....foreign AND DOMESTIC remember? by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:15:11 PM (0+)
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Reply: Good points.
I agree that it is extremely unlikely that 9-11 was an inside job. But Bush should be impeached for the illegal invasion of Iraq exceeding the Congressional authorizatation to use military force to enforce UN Resolutions and for authorising torture. by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 1308 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:20:28 PM (0+)
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Reply: They know this dog don't hunt
I'm with JR on this one. by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2100 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 8:16:15 AM (0+)
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"visa-overstayers"?
Sneaking Into America: Sloppy State Dept. Paper Work Let Sept. 11 Hijackers Into the U.S. www.WantToKnow.info/021023abc.orig Two (Republican) senators blame State Department in Sept. 11 attacks www.WantToKnow.info/021218ap I don't subscribe to the "missile theory", but I think all Americans should be concerned that the government/corporate media story about 9/11 is contradicted by thousands of their own reports: Complete 9/11 Timeline www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project by Better World Order (4 articles, 568 quicklinks, 39 diaries, 1110 comments [56 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 1:31:14 AM (0+)
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And the Money angle?!
...and who's been making money off this since Day 11?! Cronies & then some -- Blackwater, Halliburton, KBR, GE, the MIC related companies. Majority of Americans? NO (And wait to see the fallout from the engineered Housing/Finance Collapse/Implosion -- Hey, sorta sounds like the destruction/demolition of the WTC buildings. Accident -- No Way on both counts. Iraqi people/culture/country -- Ummm, they're not doing so good are they? OIL Companies for the last few years -- Mind-bendingly Colossal PROFITS! Hmmm--who's paying for the gas? I'd like to see a list of the NO-BID contract beneficiaries making bread on the back-side of this war. The political-related-tentacled elite (Gates recent little issue with the WHAT? $28-52Million No-bid contract to his company to police a settlement) -- Nice gig if you can get it. Beats a WAGE! I heard Congress is looking in to this particular matter. We don't want any stench of 'Conflict of Interests' around here. HaHaHaHa! I laugh, I cry -- these guys enrich each other. What a Country! Oh, shoot...look at the time. I've got to go to work! I guess I just don't KNOW THE RIGHT PEOPLE! I GOT NO-BIDNESS, so I better go jump on the FREEWAY to my Job. Look Deeper! Follow the "sucking" sounds. by boomerang (0 articles, 7 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 556 comments [215 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 8:11:34 AM (0+)
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Reply: Re: U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official 911 Account
Well put Boomerang! Well put. NO-BID contract beneficiaries making bread on the back-side of this war. Need we say more! by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:59:37 AM (0+)
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Excuse me Mr. Miller.........................
but for myself and the rest of the concerned citizens.............why haven't all these 25 (no less) Military Officers cut the story short and put Nancy Pelosi on the water board and saved the country from 5 or more years of embarrasment, agony and ill-fated history............................? by Ernest (0 articles, 8 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 221 comments [40 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:07:56 AM (0+)
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Flight simulator
"I know there are flight simulators that pilots can practice in, which accurately reflect real-life flying, including actual cockpits with working controls." -- Jason Hears This has been done. You can see it documented here. In this entire article, I see not a shred of actual evidence for what they claim. Plenty of "seems strange" conjecture and erroneous assumptions, but no actual evidence. Shouldn't that be a prerequisite to making such grand, sweeping allegations, or would it be O.K. for me, without evidence, to accuse the author and these "brave" former officials of conspiring against their government in a disgusting act of treason? Can't you see it? It's so obvious. These guys are getting paid by Saudi oil Princes, haters of western decadent behavior, to undermine and eventually overthrow the U.S. government. Where were most of the hijackers from??? -- you guessed it. by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 858 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:55:53 AM (0+)
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the next 9-11
Regarding the post of the present "Intelligence" CIA?military officer, I think you and your organization have lost credibility with your program at Gitmo, alone; moreover, your 734 prison camps around the world. I believe many TRUE American patriots, like myself, have little regard or RESPECT for our corrupt CIA. Most of us know MORE than you "think" we know. I encouraged my children to not underestimate the other person's intellect as a rule in life, and I do blieve that is JUST what this Administration does over and over. Regardless of what Scott Ritter has done in his pants, I honor and respect his findings as they surely are credible and provable and have been proven over and over. The poster(present military) are forced to FOLLOW your "commander in Chief"(Bush and buddies); therefore, you aren't able to question like the "retired" military personnel can do as easily. I would say that 1000 architects. and these 25 ppl with many others, should just march up on Capitol Hill and demand VOICE and demand TIME for hearings. I find the present military intell ppl are more brutal than smart. This is a recipe for dysfunction at a superior level. I just can't let it out of my mind when I see the plane crashing into the building and the bottom of the building is clouding up before the plane actually gets TO the building center. All I can say is they should have consulted Stephen Spillberg for a little more authenticty of the whole escapade! Recently the "Gulf of Tonkin" hoax has been revealed that Johnson used to extend the VN war. Could it be that Bush/Cheney have to USE these escapades in order to get their war boarding off the platform? I agree, waterboard Nancy till she puts Impeachment BACK on the table and orders a NEW investigation of 9-11. This is a great article and exposure is what is needed. by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:15:50 PM (0+)
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Re: U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account
by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 4:41:19 PM (0+)
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Reply: Here's an example for you
to Alan Miller, If a plane hits a wall hard and fast enough, it will disintegrate. See this video, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Mz_zGJmgc And beyond this, if a missile hit the Pentagon, then where did that fourth plane and all it's passengers go? Good luck figuring that one out. by JR (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 7:39:54 AM (0+)
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Reply: Another "No-Planer."
So, when Dylan Avery admits that a plane inded hit the pentagon, is "loose Change - the last and maybe final cut" a "truther" movie, of another disinfo piece? by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 11:39:10 AM (0+)
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And so far, they have gotten away with it
We launched a war of aggression on a people that posed us no harm, we were shocked and awed and the ultimate shock doctrine has been applied - we have lost our Constitution, national blood and treasure (largest ever debtor nation the world has ever known - and the fall will not be pleasant). The criminals behind this "new Pearl Harbor" remain at large, the evidence largely destroyed. Our government can't be bothered with the truth, probably because they already know too much of it. Dug into the facts surrounding 9/11 and the mysteries and after a while you start to think you are crazy - how can our country - our media be sleeping through this - our Congress people and Senators not be clamoring for investigations and Impeachment - but there is still, years later - virtual silence. That takes amazing discipline on the part of educated people - and it is frightening. All complicit in the fall of a nation. It really is amazing to watch. And yet, most of us go on everyday, through the same routine, as if nothing extraordinary has happened (because we must to survive). Pushing for change where we can, adding to the growing movements of change - and wondering if the domestic enemies of our country and constitution - the traitors - will ever be caught. And will this nation ever live up to it's ideals - a government of by and for the people? by August Adams (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 583 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 9:36:22 PM (0+)
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Reply: Get real
To August Adams: 1) We went to war against the Taliban, which was supplying training camps for Al-Qaeda and harboring its leaders 2) The Constitution has not been lost. In fact, government restrictions, censorship, and wiretaps are a far cry from how tightly the US government controlled everything during WWII (the office of censorship opened and read ALL mail and telegrams coming and going overseas), yet the system still survived. 3) Very few of the criminals behind 9/11 are at large. The hijackers themselves perished of course, and at this point nearly all the senior Al-Qaeda leadership and accessories to the crime have been killed or captured. Bin Laden, of course, has not been caught, but there's a fair amount of evidence that he is no longer alive. 4) We had an investigation - a very long and drawn out 9/11 commission, countless number in intra-Agency investigations, and many lawsuits, some still pending. I don't think the purpose of a representative government is to keep doing investigations ad infinitum until you get the result you want. Your reference to the "domestic enemies" makes it sound like you think it was an inside job. Well, good luck with that theory. by JR (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 7:50:53 AM (0+)
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Reply: They would have gotten away with it. . .
If it hadn't been for you meddling kids and your pesky dog! by Roark Howard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 350 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:36:28 AM (0+)
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Reply: *chuckles*
Indeed! Scooby Dooby Doo, where are you!?! by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2100 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:50:07 PM (0+)
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Re: U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official 911 Account
by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:34:36 AM (0+)
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Creative writing
Is 9/11 "truth" just an outlet for people's creative writing needs? Will they ever get around to creating a credible, sensible narrative? by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 858 comments) on Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:36:11 AM (0+)
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U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11
During my career in the Army Air Corp and USAF, 1944-1965, I was in the Aircraft Maintenance Career Field. (20 years on active duty from a Private to Captain.) What happened in New York, Pennsylvania and the Pentagon were crimes not an invasive attack. The towers and building 7 and the Pentagon were not demolished buy air liners. The airliner that made the hole in the pasture was rendered uncontrollable either by a bomb or rocket according to what I read about witness testimony by 15 witnesses who were never queried by investigators or included in the Commission Report. There were no airliner parts at the Pentagon scene. The FBI and probably the Defense Department have videos of what hit the pentagon probably a UAV and has destroyed the evidence to prevent the truth from being revealed to the public. Included in the omission in the Report is the name of A.B. "Buzzy"Krongard" a CIA Executive Officer that executed $2.5 million in "PUTs" on UA and AA Stock. A person name Dov Zakheim, a Pentagon Comptroller who retired in 2003 and returned to Israel had a reported $4.2 billion discrepancy in the Fund he maintained and was responsible for. The media did report a couple of weeks later that instead of $4.2 billion it was only $2.4 billion. (.4 million is an approximation as I do no have the exact figure available. by pswoodard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Sunday, Jan 20, 2008 at 3:31:20 PM (0+)
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gullible
either the average American i gullible or just concerned about his SUv and Monday night football-pizza..the govt. want to subdue us like China has done to the Chinese who are gullible and docile. Gary (ex pat in Hong kong) by Gary Price (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 21 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 22, 2008 at 7:04:26 AM (0+)
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Scrutiny needed- who are these ''officers'' really
After reading the article, I contacted a retired Air Force Colonel who, as a pilot and aeronautical engineer up until 1992 when he retired, pretty much knew the officer corps of the airforce, and these people are within his age group, so it would have made sense that he would know at least a few of them. Imagine my surprise when he told me he knew of none of them, and that he and most of the officers he knows would contradict their comments as babble or doggeral. OK, so who are these guys, really? Were they paid? Do they really exist? Can we have their contact information and their service information (other than the authors claims)? So much invented fact appears on the web that nothing should be accepted without scrutiny, no matter the source. It's getting almost as bad as television network news and CNN International. by Don Gist (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Tuesday, Jan 22, 2008 at 12:01:43 PM (0+)
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Reply: Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Accoun
Hi there Don Gist, You can easily use "wikipedia" to verify these people exist and their 911 testimonies are not made up. Or you could just google their names. Many of the men are very well known or famous in their own rights. Maybe your friend or whoever just doesnt know them, they were of the highest ranks in their respective fields. 911 was an inside job, have you looked at the evidence? Why does the gov act so squirrish when the subject is talked about? Who has benifitted from 911 financially? Why wouldnt bush cheney testify under oath to the 911 commission? What about WTC 7? Why have the same officials all claim executive priviledge and wont talk about it? Why is it ok to see planes hit the WTC towers but the gov says its a national security issue to release the video of the plane hitting the pentagon? why? why? why? we need another investigation. its that simple. The people want it but the gov is afraid to talk about it, and if we dont believe the gov they say "terrorist are gunna get you again". Its all intimidation backed up by their illegal laws that silence people. We torture people now, it was torture when Hitler did it but now when bush cheney do it they say it isnt torture. The Japanese gov is reviewing all the same evidence too, so they got away with the death of JFK, but they wont on 911, no matter how long it takes for the world to wake up to the facts and believe me, millions already have. Just researched for yourself, thats all I can suggest to you. by scobman (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Saturday, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:05:18 AM (0+)
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