Rumsfeld on the issue of war if there were no WMD's in Iraq
Rumsfeld- February, 2004: "... there would have been no war."
Rumsfeld- November, 2005: "... probably yes."
Links to chart comparisons between reports various agencies gave to the Administration and how the Administration then used those reports are at the end of the article. Also provided are links proving that the Congress did not have "the same intelligence".
To get a feel for the thinking that gives rise to the false "righteous indignation" exhibited by Dick Cheney and others in the Administration, one should consider the following statements made to Ron Suskind, former Wall Street Journal reporter and author of The Price of Loyalty by a senior advisor to George Bush- as reported in the New York Times Magazine:
First, Mr. Suskind states that the advisor pointed out that he (Mr. Suskind) lives, "... in what we [the Administration] call the reality-based community...''.
The advisor defined that community as being those who, ''believe that solutions emerge from "your" [presumably the rest of us] judicious study of discernible reality.''
He went on to explain:
"That's not the way the world really works anymore... We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors " and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do."
Perhaps it's worth taking a look at the "empire's own reality" and "history's actors" roles in it- if only to explain how we got from:
February 2003
Q: Mr. Secretary, you said in your opening remarks, sir -- you described it as two paths that nations can take, and you noted that Saddam Hussein, had he opened up his country to the U.N. resolutions, there would have been no war.
Rumsfeld: Was what I said today correct? Yes. There would not have been a war. I mean, that's just a fact.
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