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In an act of infamy that will forever blight the nations of Ecuador's, Britain's and the USA's names, Julian Assange's asylum status was revoked and police were allowed to enter to arrest him based on a US extradition warrant.

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I posted a Quicklink to the H1 NY Times article about this, though I doubt the Times understands the implications itself, even though they profited from the Snowden leaks, not very different from what Assange published from Manning.


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In what will surely be remembered as one of the darkest days for free journalism, Julian Assange was arrested on an extradition warrant for questioning and presumably trial, in the United States, after Ecuador withdrew his asylum status.

No journalist - paid or not - should consider him/herself safe now.

Trump's Administration, newly cleared itself for all practical purposes, of collusion charges with Russia, is now free to prosecute Assange on trumped up charges he aided such collusion, a charge he denies and for which there is counter-evidence.

We are losing on every front, so the free media, such as what remains, is next. Actually, its slow death has been going on for a generation or more, but it will be more overt now.

No one, not bloggers or MSM, are safe.

Next up, Trump enabling anyone to sue the media basically for unflattering stories about them.

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The New York Times also profited from the 1971 New York Times v. U.S. supreme court decision over its right to publish the Pentagon Papers which, as far as I can tell, should apply equally to Assange.

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Breaks my heart.


We can only hope he will somehow prevail.

Maybe he wasn't such a good guest.


This is precisely what the President of Ecuador had to say and it is worth listening to:


Breaking News: Ecuador president says Julian Assange asylum status withdrawn after violations WikiLeaks founder was living in Ecuador's London embassy since 2012 after a British judge ruled he should be extradited to Sweden. SUBSCRIBE to our ...
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The current president of Ecuador is disgusting maggot bought and paid for by the USA/CIA. I wonder how many $millions he has pocketed since his tawdry deal with his equally disgusting maggot master Pompeo?

Assange will be remembered long after Trump, Pompeo and the Ecuador President, whatever his name is, have gone. They will soon be forgotten and confined to the dustbin of history.

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We will need to hold these criminals accountable including the silly criminal judge who called Assange a narcissist. Backbone time.

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"Maybe he wasn't such a good guest."

What an irrelevant thought.

There are no conditions on asylum. And, it can't be "revoked" without UN approval.

It's funny that Julian wasn't a problem for Correa. Correa let him do his work and interact with the world, while even giving him Ecuadorian citizenship, in an attempt to protect him better.

Moreno takes over, and he's cut off from society and his work, with his every movement monitored and recorded, and constant verbal abuse (which is documented). The few people they let in to see him had to undergo strip-searches and invasive body probes as a condition of visitation.

Let's not mention, as the length of his arbitrary detention grows, and his health deteriorates, it's logical to expect some behavioural difficulties, and less resilience to abuse.

Maybe Moreno wasn't a very nice host.

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Of course the current Ecuadorean president Lenin Moreno is completely compromised. Investigations will now be shushed up and his exit strategy made comfortable via a nice little IMF skim.

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You got it! A deal for $4.2B to Ecuador, from the IMF, was made in February, while another $6B is coming from other American financial institutions like the World Bank.

Click

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Reminiscent of the mafia deals, "You get half now, and the rest when the job is finished."

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If you had watched the video of Moreno you would have understood why I wrote that, but since you didn't, you wouldn't.

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I've already seen both videos ad nauseum. They don't cause me to ponder if Assange was a "bad guest". And, we're not supposed to ponder it. His asylum didn't come with any "behaviour code", as such conditions are illegal under UN rules.

Going after the victim's character is a tactic we have come to expect in any of these situations. "Sexual assault" charges were even used to launch this whole attack.

All the video does is show a shameless traitor blatantly lying to another complacent media channel that has a habit of twisting the truth. If he had a real case against Assange, he was required to take it up with the UN. He didn't do that. Britain didn't address it through proper channels either.

Certainly, selling out his asylum to the US for $10B should be the point of contention. I guess Julian should be flattered at the value placed on his life.

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you might want to read this article. According to this, the president of Ecuador and the US made a "deal" - US helps Ecuador pay off some of its debt to the tune of a lot of money (which it gave Ecuador) and in exchange, gets Assange for extradition - plus the president of Ecuador is in the middle of his own huge corruption scandal that could get him impeached.


https://blackagendareport.com/julian-assange-threatened-expulsion-embassy

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Thanks so much. I knew there had to be some kind of deal, as there always is, a trade off. That doesn't make it any more acceptable of course, just more understandable in terms of what is really happening. A bit more on Moreno:



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tried to find this in English or with English subtitles but so far, no go. My Spanish is inadequate to understand this.

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Here is the main obstacle as I see it - If we took a poll on how many Americans want to know the truth we would find that at least half do not want to know the truth about anything. They want to be comfortable and prefer lies to any truth that makes them uncomfortable. That is why it has been so easy for the fascist dictatorship that now rules in the US to paint Assange as a villain. He caught the US breaking international law, torturing and murdering. so Americans lost face. Americans just want to have fun. That basic problem is why there has not been a prosecution for the murders of John and Robert Kennedy or for the explosions of the trade center that murdered more than 3000 civilians. They just don't want to know. So what is press freedom to these despicable humans? nothing

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The Deep State did this. The same crew who orchestrated a FAILED COUP to overturn the elected President of the United States. Democrats are ANGRY that their crimes and "pay to play" scams got exposed. They're not apologizing. In their world view, Little People like us should stay out of their way. That's the Democrats. Trump is the maverick outsider fighting to Drain the Swamp. That's why the same Deep State accused him of that garbage Russian Collusion, though it's clear the British and Ukrainians are the foreign powers that meddled in the 2016 elections--- at the request of the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clinton.

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Still, he has spoken out against Assange and Snowden in the past. I wouldn't put any hope on Trump seeing the irony of his false prosecution versus that of Assange.

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I believe we need to reach through the deep state for the throats of those that instruct the deep state.

The US government is now a failed state in terms of the US Constitution. We must have no respect for the fake rule of law that is being enforced by the entity that for the moment controls the US government.

I paraphrase what I heard Daniel of Ron Paul Liberty Report say, that we should put pressure on the powers that be...respectfully. I disagree. They deserve no respect at all. It is time that we come for them because they have already arrived and are preparing for us.

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what in the world are you talking about!? Trump a maverick fighting to drain the swamp? I guess if you consider the planet a swamp that needs to be drained until it is completely devoid of life and all goes extinct - well yes, he is some kind of "maverick" of the Deep State, and the Handlers are very pleased with him.

Clinton is corrupt and no self respecting thinking person could have wanted her for president.The DNC lied about Russian collusion to steal the election - true.

I don't think the Handlers (bankster, big pharma, and fossil fuel CEOs and the corporate-bought puppet Un-representatives and lobbyists who work for them)in the US who gerrymandered voting districts and dropped millions from the polls and brainwashed the dumbed-down masses via social media, needed any outside help to get the job done!

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It's worse then that, those who don't want to know the truth, think they actually know it already.

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It has been noted by others that Germany has spent 60 years atoning for its war guilt . Atonement is practically a German law. Americans will never atone for the death and destruction that has been visited upon the world in our name. We belong to a spoiled, soft society, incapable of facing truth in any form, much less atoning for our crimes.

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Lila: Right on. Everything you say is so so True, for which I thank you. What do you make of James Clapper's comments in this video?



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Before I dare to comment, I'll ask you, do you find any merit in either Clapper's words, Clapper himself, or CNN's classic framing here?

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Nyet.

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Two minutes of Clapper bullshit is more than I need to hear. He wanted a heads up for the intelligence community by the journalist Assange which revealed the murderous acts sanctioned by blood thirsty arrogant executioners on behalf of the rulers of an empire who believe they are all powerful? A rogue cabal that believe it is above the law?

He and his friends need to forget about the sedition act which they can stick right up their ass along with my foot if I could. Whooooo we are supposed to be frighten by a bullshit law designed to chill anyone who wants their murderous heads?? Get real. Once they are gone they will become the definition of sedition.

It is a damn shame that he along with his ilky brothers and sisters are walking around free. They need a trip to infinity.

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Orwell talked about that. The love for Big Brother becomes real.

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The truth can sometimes be difficult to see. Some have made up their minds that they have determined the truth, therefore no consideration must be given to whether one is open to "something else" that may be the truth. They are open to truth insofar it coincides with what they have ascertained is the truth.

An example of this are those who are sure that the truth in US politics is that the Republicans and the Democrats are opposed to each other. There is obvious historical and contemporary evidence to the contrary, yet members of both tribes are adamant that it is the other tribe that is full of bastards. In the meanwhile we waste years of our precious lives being distracted and willfully misinformed.

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It appears Aldous Huxley was right. People can be taught to love their chains. The evidence is all around us. And you're right, it is our main obstacle to overthrowing this criminal corporate/national security state.

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No #Warrants issued for W Bush - he attacks Iraq on "False Pretenses", lied profusely to do so ("Fraudulent Justification" Article II) to Congress and the American people, the UN, and the World Community of Nations, about an "imminent threat" to the United States and he sends our troops on an "untruthful mission" to Iraq ("Nuremberg at the Dawn of The 21st Century").

W Bush to remain "above the law" ("obstruction of justice") ("impeachment if off the table" - incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi 110th-111th Congress) in the United States (together with #TonyBlair "above the law" in Great Britain, a signatory nation to the ICC and the Rome Statute) - #NurembergCrimes. 9/11 #PrePlantedExplosives.

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Welcome to pathocracy. Abandon all short-term hope, ye who enter here. Be prepared to have your heart broken in ways you can scarcely imagine now, while the fever runs its course, ultimately collapsing under the weight of its feckless cronies, with the Union probably split up by victorious foreign powers. (No wonder the administration is so desperate to attack Venezuela, its enmity toward America is real and it could easily serve as a staging point.)

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looks like the U.S. right wing Trump/Pence affiliated Fundamentalist Christian far right is playing the same game in Europe - funneling millions into European elections to swing Europe to the far right - if you are open minded enough to read the article and admit that more than the DNC are playing this game

view.tinyurl.com/yxo4f9wt

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We Stand Against DEEP STATE TYRANNY & DESPOTISM!!!
Julian Assange is a HERO to ALL Americans for exposing CORRUPTION at the Democrat National Committee and "pay to play" scams by Hillary Clinton who traded favorable decisions at the U.S State Department for cash donations to the Clinton Foundation.
TRUTH IS NEVER TREASON!!!!
The Deep State HATES Julian Assange & WIKILEAKS for educating American voters. WE WILL FIGHT FOR JULIAN!

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TRUTH IS NEVER TREASON!

Mark my words, this day Democrats lost the 2020 elections.

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#OnceAgain - it's Pelosi refusing to hold "impeachment hearings", another gigantic reason for the Democrats "going down in defeat" in "the 2020 elections" - not keeping the American people "safe" from presidents (Pelosi @ 1:17 minutes) otherwise eligible to be "impeached" and "removed" from office.

Thirty Five "Articles of Impeachment", "ready to go", for W Bush, but Pelosi refuses to hold an Impeachment Hearing, and for Trump, yes, a #Need2Impeach - (#ImpeachableOffenses) but Pelosi, on both (110th-111th Congresses/115-116th Congresses) of her terms as the "House Speaker" who refused "to act" on "the rule of law" ("The Supreme Crime Against Humanity"), never knowing "if anyone knows of a crime" - yes, the "FBI sued for failure to report known 9/11 evidence to Congress".

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Lecture 101:

Democrats? Again? Republicans? Seriously? You already know that they are bought, right? Both sides. Please push this schizophrenia away from your mind.

Hell you even know who is buying them. In fact both sides are being bought by the same forces. Who are these forces? I think you would have to arrive at the answer that these forces are the entity that actually "owns" the US government. That is not a great leap to a conclusion.

If the one tenth of one percent own the corporations of the entire globe;

and the corporations buy the politicians all over the US and western world, just as they have been doing in a wholesale manner since the establishment of the US national security state;

and since the corporation's psychopathic golden rule to earn a profit for its shareholders, what moral duty is superior to this corporation requirement?

If the answer is none, how moral can the politicians be who succumb to the subversion of the peoples' rule of law, their Constitution and government in favor of the corporations rule of law and governance?

Since the one tenth of one percent are not stupid in this manner of behavior, why would they take a chance and fund only one of the political parties? Likewise, why would they take a chance and allow the president of the US to carelessly appoint cabinet members and heads to executive departments and agencies without their approval?

Who do you think loses?

Forgive me for the lecture. This divide is boring and enervating. We have to get on the sane page.

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Bravo, Shad Williams! Exactly!

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Susan, you inspire me and everyone else here, but one correction: the Deep State is bipartisan, and if you go look at relatively conservative blogs they are raging at Trump over this and saying they won't vote for him again. These are people who put on him attacking the Deep State, not being cowed by it.

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Absolutely correct! You're being subjected to a great deal of theater from the entire cast!

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Democrats and republicans my friend...the results are the same. Each has their own corrupt practices to effect desired electoral outcomes.

Have you noticed how concerns about how to ensure untampered elections occurs after the tampering?

The election is merely delayed.

What we have now cannot be fixed. The rulers are dead set against it. None of them are breaking ranks it appears. As Putin said, what is a world without Russia? It is a world without anyone. The same is true for all of us. What is a world without freedom or liberty? No world at all.

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Assange is a world-class journalist and hero, nothing as meager as WaPo's Khashaggi who was so proclaimed. Assange should be allowed to go home to his family and recuperate from his mistreatment, as should Manning.

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We should treat this as an opportunity to organize, to educate the public. We should focus on the question, "What truths is the US government so desperate to protect our ears from?"

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Wikileaks is a conduit for truthtellers in sensitive positions to get their stories out to the public.


To what extent is Wikileaks functional without Assange's leadership? Will it continue without him?


If not, what can you and I do to assure that Wikileaks is replaced with a system for disseminating the truth that is dispersed over space, and where so many people share responsibility that they can't arrest all of us?

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I don't think Wikileaks is dependent upon Assange, but I doubt it would have been or will be again as bold as he has been in putting his neck on the slab to be chopped off. The issue is what I stated above. If Americans were courageous and/ or educated, intelligent enough to care about freedom there would have been a massive outcry after the Manning revelations. There was not. Most of the outcry came from European governments and diplomats, not from Americans. Americans care only for their own comfort and entertainment. If you want a responsible public, move to a better country.

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And move to one of the 140+ countries that do not support US government's appointment of the toothy Guaido?

Just because we have allowed some murderous freaks to take over our responsibility of governing ourselves does not mean that we cannot take it back. If we do not take it back as a group then we take it back individually until the evil fever breaks.

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Here is the latest - US prosecuting Assange NOT for publishing classified material, but for collusion in assisting Manning in accessing the DOD files. no idea if they have any actual proof of that. That gets them around the problem of press freedom and of needing to prosecute the NY Times and WaPo for publishing the same classified documents - a case they would lose. meanwhile Thom Hartman is on the radio and on free speech tv trashing Assange. I will never read his stuff again.

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The DOJ has charged him with "conspiracy to commit computer intrusion," and nothing more. Look it up, if you don't believe me.

It's a fairly innocuous charge, all things considered, which further supports my theory that the objective here is not to ruin Assange, but to destroy the Deep State.

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Far more here than meets the eye. Julian Assange's arrest is linked intimately to the Trump administration offensive to take down treasonous Deep State globalists. Among other things, Assange knows who killed Seth Rich, and why he was killed. Once extradited to the U.S., Assange will become the most heavily protected federal witness in American history.

Factor in William Barr assuming the top U.S. law enforcement post five weeks ago, the Mueller report finding no collusion, no obstruction, and recommending no further indictments, and these recent revelations:

click here

Which indicate that Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno recently lost all leverage he once possessed regarding the Julian Assange situation.

As for those who attempted to subvert the U.S. Constitution and overthrow America's duly elected government, this should be regarded as profoundly ominous:

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Assange's arrest in London, his being charged by the Department of Justice with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion, and his ultimate extradition to the U.S. shreds the inane nonsense espoused by mainstream-media repeaters like Rachel Maddow that Trump and Assange were in cahoots to manipulate the 2016 election.

Yet another globalist-driven conspiracy theory bites the dust.

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I am genuinely sick of reading these unicorn testaments that the wise and wily Trump has a secret agenda to take down the deep state. really. he is a senile gangster who does what he is told by the cia and Pence and who cares not a whit for even the air he breathes as long as he can get even wealthier by polluting it. give it up already.

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Don't read them, then. It's not going to change anything if you do or not, anyway; you already have made up your mind.

If it's all the same to you, though, I'll keep posting what I know to be truth. I believe I have that right. Besides, so far I've been amazingly accurate.

Peace.

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Pablo, you have told me Qanon is, or will be, revealing some truth of some sort that will open everyone's eyes. But, I have to presume it is "will be," and not "is," as I have not seen anything yet ... certainly not anything eyeopening. Have I missed something?

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It's happening right now. Living history.

on.pub/

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"We have the source."

Not sure how you interpret that, but I know how I do. Particularly, in light of what happened with Julian Assange today, and after 18 months of my perusing Qanon drops.

Actually, I am somewhat flummoxed by all the hullabaloo over Assange's arrest and concern for his well-being from people on this site, considering how many of them were convinced that Assange helped Trump win the election in 2016. It seems folk would be rejoicing at the prospect of finally realizing a legitimate opportunity to oust that wily debbil Donald Trump.

Surely no one believes that the Trump administration would seek to neutralize Assange--probably the most high-profile figure on the planet at present? Yeah, me neither. If so, after all, why the elaborate and very public broad-daylight perp walk? And why now? This "problem" could have been dispensed with long ago, and in a far more discreet manner.

The truth is, Assange can testify to the fact that Seth Rich leaked the proprietary DNC information to Wikileaks via thumb drive after HRC and the DNC stole the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders. Which acts to further undermine the absurd, obscene and treasonous globalist-manufactured Russian-collusion narrative.

Assange should be fine, ultimately. Better than Seth Rich, who paid for his courage with his life. They both are heroes.

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Pablo, I will tell you I have no idea how to interpret Post #3312 or a couple of others I read. Is Q going to release anything? Maybe they are releasing a few bits and pieces -- I have not seen any -- a bit or piece at a time, but that ain't going to do anything. To have any chance of doing anything or having an impact, don't they have to release the goods all at once in an exploding bombshell that would have any chance to break through the cover of the MSM? If they have such a bomb, what are they waiting for?

I would like to think there is something in the works but ... maybe you know but I sure as heck have no idea.

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"...Maybe they are releasing a few bits and pieces -- I have not seen any -- a bit or piece at a time, but that ain't going to do anything. To have any chance of doing anything or having an impact, don't they have to release the goods all at once in an exploding bombshell that would have any chance to break through the cover of the MSM? If they have such a bomb, what are they waiting for?"

In 2015, patriotic elements in the U.S. military conspired to formulate a feasibility plan on whether or not they should engage in a military coup to remove Obama from office. Ultimately, they opted against doing so, as they determined that it would lead to imminent civil war among the American population. They chose a different path.

The idea that you can awaken throngs of people who have been subjected to decades of social conditioning in one fell swoop, while wishful and intriguing, would prove an epic fail, ultimately. Such a process must be accomplished by providing tidbits of evidence incrementally to reverse the manipulation.

How is Q team--or anyone else, for that matter--going to red-pill the bulk of society all at once when it took two and a half years to convince people that Trump didn't consort with Putin to steal the 2016 election from HRC? This despite the fact that those same people knew HRC HAD STOLEN the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders. In fact, she not only stole votes from him, she was stealing his campaign contributions through NPG-VAN.

And that's just one example. There are many others. Explain to me how such extreme and absurd cognitive dissonance can exist, and you have answered your own question(s).

There have been 3,312 Qanon drops since October 28, 2017, encompassing a wide swath of information. Myriad revelations abound. With the removal of the phony Trump-Russia collusion, a blockade has been lifted and the tables are turned. The Constitutionalists are now on the offensive.

I frankly do not care who exposes and takes down these treacherous vermin who sought to overthrow America and enslave its people, as long as someone does it.

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Surely you realize by now that not only is Trump a liar but is also a coward punk ass. He has the bully pulpit. If he was fearless and a true warrior he would lead despite the dirt the owners of the deep state have collected on him at this point.

No part of this first republic can be allowed to continue. Nor should any of the long list of individuals including potus who have been the enablers of this perverted fiefdom be allowed to go unpunished.

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It seems to me that the corporate mainstream-media apparatus has the bully pulpit, but what do I know? I voted for Jill Stein in the last presidential election.

There is a world of difference between a clinical appraisal of current events and an emotional one. I am coolly objective in my interpretation of what is occurring at present; I will not presume to assess whether you can say the same.

I do contend that disliking Trump just for the sake of disliking him became tedious long ago. Exceedingly so. This is political science and government, not television. There are far more factors intertwined and at work here than mere personalities.

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I used to read your comments and think that you were a critical thinker. Now I read them and wonder what kind of brainwash got you drinking the acid-laced Kool Aid?

Yes, I went onto Q's "site" and read quite a lot of posts on the "timeline." I don't know who Q is and I don't care; based on what I read there, I think you are all delusional and on a dangerous path - almost cult-like. but I guess it's good to side with those who have the weapons and the desire for revenge; Q's people seem to have that going for them. I get nervous at the word "patriot," seeing how often it's misused to effect an agenda that is anything but in the interest of the people. I think this may be some kind of sham but believe whatever you want - no one can stop you.

Whenever we say that "anybody" is better than who's in power, that "anybody" would be better than who we have now, we are no longer thinking rationally or critically. We the people are the "anybody." Any leader worth his or her salt would follow the will of an informed, educated, and less selfish people than what we have here in the U.S. with its spoiled, violent, infantile culture.

Be careful what you wish for. You can always get WORSE.

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That's quite some rant you laid out there, ma'am. All for me? I'm honored.

Seems to me that it might just be those who can't even find it in themselves to tolerate others expressing their thoughts on an opinion site without getting triggered and uptight who may be the ones with the problem. But what do I know? According to you, I only might have been a critical thinker once.

Whatever's right. Many people are headed for a mass meltdown this year; I forgive you. You should, however, know that--as part of my dearth of critical-thinking skills--I don't go in for the same faux-egalitarian pseudophilosophical politically correct claptrap that drives the actions of people on this site, many of whom have grown exceedingly provincial in their thinking, I notice, since the 2016 election.

See, where I come from being loyal is far "better" than being perfidious--whether that applies to family, friends, associates, fellow employees...or yes, even one's country. Now, if you care to defend the other side of that argument, feel free. I would be most curious to see what you come up with there.

I am by no stretch of the imagination "cult" material. If Qanon military intelligence is a cult, it's the first one I have ever encountered that encourages one to think for oneself. That was no new shakes for me, but I must say that I have been impressed.

I will leave you with this: We have HAD worse. Recently, in fact:

ile.twitter.com/GregRubini/status/1038791033360998402

I encourage you to read the memo titled "TOP SECRET STRAP3 SIGINT UK EYES ONLY." I direct you to the first paragraph, where it talks about who initiated the illegal spying that represented subversion of the U.S. Constitution.

Treason. Far worse than patriotism. I wish you well in grappling with what impends.

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"No part of this first republic can be allowed to continue. Nor should any of the long list of individuals including potus who have been the enablers of this perverted fiefdom be allowed to go unpunished." My sense is that large and rapidly growing number of Americans are drawing this same conclusion.

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In the tale of Wikileaks and Assange timing is telling. This from memory so feel free to correct. The war logs and the horrific tapes were published in early 2010 or late 2009 amid much denunciation and threats of punishment including hanging for treason. Manning did not maintain her cover and was exposed. Still no official charges against Wiki or JA tho the story and threats and usual political sturm und drang. In Nov 2010, still deep in the recession, JA revealed that Wiki had the hard drive of the CEO of a major bank involved in the crash and bailout. He said it would be published in early 2011. All financial hell broke out immediately. PayPal and all the credit card companies froze Wiki accounts. He was accused of some still unspecified sex crime in Sweden. He was arrested in UK and placed on bail awaiting hearings with Sweden. I remember seeing him in March? on FreeSpeech TV at a public discussion. A member of the audience asked him about the hard drive. He demurred saying he was not at liberty to discuss it but did say you may imagine why. I imagine that there was a stalemate of sorts where he was threatened with harm to him and his family if Wiki published and he countered with if any harm came to his family or himself even by "accident" the hard drive would be published. JA's son and his mother are incomunicado but I am sure they cannot hide from the deep state. So here we are after 7 years and probably the expiration of statute of limitations for financial crimes. The Banksters feel safe so they have unleashed their attack dogs. This is going to be interesting and I am going to donate.

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The "crime" Assange was charged with in Sweden was "having consensual sex without a condom".

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Interesting timeline. Thanks.

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This was expected for the past week, indeed for the past year as Ecuador's pathetic apology for a president has been working his way up to it. Beyond the initial outrage, which I share with everyone, I feel this needed to happen. The situation had reached an unsustainable and ultimately unhealthy impasse for Assange. Once his Internet and communication access were cut off, he became a pure prisoner of conscience with no active role to play. His being dragged out of that Danteian Purgatorio is symbolic of the deep evil of Western governments being dragged out into the daylight. At least we can now hope for a closure to his agony and the beginning of something which these governments will not be able to contain.

There's something curious about the single US charge of inciting a computer hack. It's hardly a lynchable or life sentence offense. Why did they choose just this one charge? I am tempted to hope this is just a show to eventually discharge him with a token short-term prison sentence. However, the odds are in favor of it being an initial ploy to get him locked up so that the finest of Abu Ghraib techniques can be applied to extract phony confessions of Russian interference.

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Don't fool yourself. They're only saying there's one charge, and that he faces only 5 years. Once inside the kangaroo court, they'll bring out more charges, and a much more lengthy sentence.

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The Supreme Kangaroo Court we have now is indeed likely to reverse New York Times v. U.S.

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This is why it's curious how the NYT, of all publishers in this scene, are not jumping up and down in support of Assange. But, we all know that's not the whole story.

The USG doesn't want to get into that argument about the MSM's parallel interests. The MSM is currently their established band of stenographers that have demonstrated that needed loyalty to the official narratives. So they're attacking Assange from a different angle - rather than open up the 1st Amendment can of worms, they're charging Julian with "conspiracy to hack a government server", and throwing Chelsea Manning into the mix as his accomplice.

If you ask me, it's a lame stance, but it's likely enough to get Assange extradited to face a stacked secret court, where they can pile on whatever bogus extra charges they want, with impunity.

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Double post - please remove. How does this happen?

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Meanwhile, May gets a round of applause in the House when she announces Julian's arrest.

If George Galloway were still in there, you'd be hearing a different noise, I'm sure. :(

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And, Jeremy Hunt says, "It was a very courageous decision made here by Moreno." These people are seriously demented.

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They are sick with imperial delirium, a condition which has afflicted the West's ruling class for over five centuries. See these excerpts from the clinical description, courtesy Mayo Clinic:

"Delirium is a serious disturbance in mental abilities that results in confused thinking and reduced awareness of the environment.

Signs and symptoms of delirium usually begin over a few hours or a few days. They often fluctuate throughout the day, and there may be periods of no symptoms. Symptoms tend to be worse during the night when it's dark and things look less familiar. Primary signs and symptoms include those below.

Reduced awareness of the environment

This may result in:

  • An inability to stay focused on a topic or to switch topics
  • Getting stuck on an idea rather than responding to questions or conversation
  • Being easily distracted by unimportant things
  • Being withdrawn, with little or no activity or little response to the environment
Poor thinking skills (cognitive impairment)

This may appear as:

  • Poor memory, particularly of recent events
  • Disorientation for example, not knowing where you are or who you are
  • Difficulty speaking or recalling words
  • Rambling or nonsense speech
  • Trouble understanding speech
  • Difficulty reading or writing
Behavior changes

These may include:

  • Seeing things that don't exist (hallucinations)
  • Restlessness, agitation or combative behavior
  • Calling out, moaning or making other sounds
  • Being quiet and withdrawn especially in older adults
  • Slowed movement or lethargy
  • Disturbed sleep habits
  • Reversal of night-day sleep-wake cycle
Emotional disturbances

These may appear as:

  • Anxiety, fear or paranoia
  • Depression
  • Irritability or anger
  • A sense of feeling elated (euphoria)
  • Apathy
  • Rapid and unpredictable mood shifts
  • Personality changes

Dementia and delirium may be particularly difficult to distinguish, and a person may have both. In fact, delirium frequently occurs in people with dementia."

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I don't know about others here, but I get that from WiFi and cell phones and anything labelled "smart."

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Patricia, I understand what you say. But believe me, it will only get worse when 5G comes into full play... Not good.

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You got that one nailed! But, is there a pill we can take for other people's delirium?

:)

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Alas, at this point only the cyanide pill occurs to me. Your dentist might have other ideas!

Seriously, the only antidote to insanity is sanity. The problem today is millions of people -- even some here at OEN which I consider a forum for the better informed -- seem afraid to face sanity. They would rather live on in a nightmare with eyes shut tight instead of waking up to face reality. Strangely, this doesn't seem to impede their mouths, digitally speaking.

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You crack me up! thanks!!

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Mad hatters.

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That's about the only applause she will get. Corbyn seems to be sliding away from what the people voted for, UK sovereignty.

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Strangely, Corbyn is also one of the few in the House that is voicing opposition to the extradition of Julian Assange.

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This is a huge slap in the face for journalists everywhere.

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Unfortunately, the slap in the face of Journalists becomes a choke hold on The First Amendment and people everywhere.

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Thanks Rob for posting this news.

Thanks Lila for your excellent views.

Thanks others for your outrage.

I agree Julian Assange needed to come out for his sake. That was no way to live.

Cheers to courageous citizens. You are the hope that this planet will survive for future generations.

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I don't understand your come out for his sake comment? The silly Ecuadorean president expects a government run by liars to keep an agreement not to extradite JA to a country that has the death penalty? Did I miss something? He is being set up by the UK vassals to be sent to the US, where the so called Oklahoma city bombing was carried out by Timothy McVeigh, who was executed by the US government.


US federal government executions have not been repealed. In fact we still drone people to death around the globe and are right this moment using the Saudis to clear a path via the Yemeni genocide to create more security against the upcoming attacks on Saudi oil shipments.


Therefore how JA could come out for his own sake unless it was to put his faith in that a lying bunch of murderous psychopaths would not harm him?

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Regarding Assange's alleged attempts to influence the 2016 election: journalists publish truthful information to influence elections all the time, it's the whole point of free speech (and there was plenty of untruthful information published by others, like the pizzagate bullshit). Unlike everyone else posting on this thread (probably) I disagreed with his call, and think the country is far worse off than it would have been with HRC (bad as she is) but it was his right to make that call.

This is not the end but the beginning. If Assange is extradited, tried in the US, convicted and sentenced to a long prison term on a token computer hacking charge it is indeed a hard blow to free press. I'm sending a donation.

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This is a frightening day in history. Under Trump we've witnessed the war on the media grow. Trump has made open threats of FCC review of licenses for media outlets that criticize him. We've seen Trump's "enemy of the people" rhetoric encouragedl attacks against journalsts in physical attacks and bomb threats. We watched as Kashoggi's horrific death glossed over in favor of "business". And now, this. Anyone who is not terrified is not paying attention.

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Indeed, people should be terrified. But, you'll notice that nobody in the MSM is actually being persecuted, arrested, or fired for all the fake news that is undeniably coming from the MSM. Much of that end of the story is theater, designed to distract you.

Some of the very same info published by WikiLeaks was also published by things like the Washington Post, New York Times, and reported on in the mainstream to some degree, yet only WikiLeaks, Assange and Manning are being persecuted. This, without any consideration to what gruesome truths were revealed by these people, or any thought of holding the criminals revealed in it all to account.

The people exposing the truth (the very definition of "journalism") receive the wrath of the State, while the ones refusing to report on all the crime committed by the State get a pass (and awards!). The ones putting out all the fake news won't even be losing their Facebook pages.

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Very few people, & none here so far as I see, recognize the fact that UK & US (& all State) Leaders' words remain just that w/o the MANY who are willing to be their Thugs/Enforcers - both domestic policing agents & members of the military.

Look at the photo accompanying this article by Rob w/ the 6 (supposedly only) UK agents removing Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian Embassy from which he'd had his asylum revoked. It's those agents who are doing the actual harm to Assange - taking him somewhere he does NOT want to go. If non-Gov/State agents were doing this, everyone would recognize it as kidnapping. He's not at liberty to simply walk out of a location where he's no longer wanted & walk/drive to a place where he is. Gov/State Enforcers are preventing him from taking that action. Those Enforcers can be ID'd & those people who are disgusted w/ them can then refuse/ withdraw voluntary association for their harm-doing actions against Julian Assange.

Similarly, those USers can take the same action of Public Negative Social Preferencing against Enforcers, of USGov & all others States, who by their very jobs are willing to initiate harm.
When few are willing to be Gov/State Enforcers because those who are become VERY unpopular with all/most other people, then Gov/State Leaders will be impotent, their words ignorable.

See Tom Knapp's writings here at Op-Ed on Negative Social Preferencing. His first was back in Aug 2017: click here
Then there's the ICE version: click here

Individuals, even acting alone by withholding their voluntary association with others who are Harm-Doers can have enormous impact on those who would control an innocent (of true wrong-doing) & an entire population. To continue to include among one's "friends" those who initiate harm, whether or not it is permitted/ordered by Gov/State, is to condone that harm-doing and enable is continuation. Don't be a Gov/State Harm-Doing enabler!

Submitted on Thursday, Apr 11, 2019 at 7:07:51 PM

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SCORECARD

Assange: Hero
Snowden: Hero
Manning: Hero
Trump: Gangster/Scumbag
GW Bush: War Criminal
Obama: War Criminal
Clintons: War Criminals
Cheney: War Criminal

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Snowden: Treasonous double agent tasked with subverting the NSA on behalf of the CIA, who now finds himself in limbo and up the proverbial creek in Mother Russia.

That one's going to be difficult for people to swallow, too. It will be nothing, though, compared to how they will react when they find out what their favorite celebrities have been doing in secret.

Hideous, unclean things.

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