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Wallace: I just want to get your position clear in my mind. So your explanation is that he was too low level or that he was too incompetent? I don't understand your position?
Lotter: I wasn't in the meeting.
Wallace: Jeff sessions, who was neither incompetent nor low level. It got all the way to Jeff sessions, this pitch, this idea that he'd use his Russian contacts to put Donald Trump in the room --
Lotter: I'm not sure if that's the way it was phrased. I wasn't in that meeting.
Wallace: No one is denying Jeff Sessions nixed a meeting.- Advertisement -Lotter: What I've read in public reporting is that his story has varied between setting up a meeting to establish better contacts, discussions of dirt, discussions of all of these things. We don't know what was pitched in the meeting. I've had contact with somebody who would like to set up a meeting with the -- with Mr. Putin and Mr. Trump going forward. I don't know -- it was immediately killed. I was not in that --
Wallace: You don't know if it was immediately killed --
Lotter: No, what was reported by "The New York Times" was that Jeff Sessions said --
Wallace: You just said he was low level. Would you agree that Jeff Sessions was pretty high level.