Rob: And you really cover this extensively in the book.
GL: Well, I do.
Rob: That's a teaser.
GL: That's a teaser.
Rob: Buy this book. I can't recommend it hardly enough. So, we're
coming near the end, I do want to ask you about one thing. In one chapter of
your book it's called questing. And in questing you talk about nomads and you
specifically talk about Cain and Abel and how Cain, who was part of - how did I
- oh I got to find it here. Cain was the builder of the first city, he killed
Abel who was a nomad.
GL: Right.
Rob: And then you go on to say that the first archaeological evidence
of war is that war began as theft.
GL: Right.
Rob: So, I want to dance around that area a little bit.
GL: Okay, in what sense?
Rob: Well, Cain - we were talking archetypal characters in the bible.
GL: Yeah.
Rob: Cain is the builder of the first city. I have questions about the
value of civilization. I mean here we are, we're in the middle of it, it's not
going to go away, but civilization has had some side effects, and murder is one
of them.
GL: Yeah.
Rob: And war, that came out of farming.
GL: Right, the stockpiling of goods and other people found easier
to steal than to produce themselves. And this taps into your bottom up and top
down paradigm too, just in the sense that we are both nomads and settlers and
we have both of those urges inside us very strongly. You know, this is why I
loved the interview that I conducted with a guy named Robert Greenway. I don't
know if you remember this, this is in the wildness chapter. Greenway is
considered the father of Eco psychology and - which started at Sonoma State
University in the early nineteen sixties when he was taking students out into
the wilderness for lengthy trips, right? And from a couple of days to a couple
of weeks at a time and one of the discoveries that he had, exactly -
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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect,
connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media.
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He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity
He's given talks and workshops to Fortune
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first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and
Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful
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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, (more...)