John Pilger: It's the world without sunlight, for one thing, isn't it?
Julian Assange: It's the world without sunlight, but I haven't seen sunlight in so long, I don't remember it.
John Pilger: Yes.
Julian Assange: So, yes, you adapt. The one real irritant is that my young children -- they also adapt. They adapt to being without their father. That's a hard, hard adaption which they didn't ask for.
John Pilger: Do you worry about them?
Julian Assange: Yes, I worry about them; I worry about their mother.
John Pilger: Some people would say, "Well, why don't you end it and simply walk out the door and allow yourself to be extradited to Sweden?"
Julian Assange: The U.N. [the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention] has looked into this whole situation. They spent 18 months in formal, adversarial litigation. [So it's] me and the U.N. verses Sweden and the U.K. Who's right? The U.N. made a conclusion that I am being arbitrarily detained illegally, deprived of my freedom and that what has occurred has not occurred within the laws that the United Kingdom and Sweden, and that [those countries] must obey. It is an illegal abuse. It is the United Nations formally asking, "What's going on here? What is your legal explanation for this? [Assange] says that you should recognize his asylum."
[And here is] Sweden formally writing back to the United Nations to say, "No, we're not going to [recognize the UN ruling]," so leaving open their ability to extradite.
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