SANCHEZ: Well, but, you know, it's interesting. So, what you're saying is, you gave a job to this guy Scrushy, who was the head of -- what was ? He was the CEO of HealthSouth, right?
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SIEGELMAN: Correct.
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SIEGELMAN: Well, no, I didn't do it in exchange for. And that would be a crime. And that's why the Supreme Court, Rick, has said that...
(CROSSTALK) SANCHEZ: Hold on. Even if it was, Governor, how many presidents of the United States have not taken huge campaign funds from people and then given them ambassadorships to countries all over the world?
SIEGELMAN: Exactly.
SANCHEZ: It's kind of the same thing.
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SANCHEZ: So, I have been hitting you hard here, but, in defense to you, isn't that kind of like what you did?
SIEGELMAN: And, also, members of Congress also vote in favor of legislation or work for legislation that a contributor supports.
And so that's why the Supreme Court has said there has to be a quid pro quo. There's got to be an express agreement or some kind of explicit agreement.
SANCHEZ: Yes.
SIEGELMAN: But in this case, the only testimony that convicted me was that of -- was false testimony given by a guy that had been interviewed over 70 times and...
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