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Podcast    H4'ed 3/31/19

Pathological Patriarchy: Carol Gilligan Naomi Snider on Why Does Patriarchy Persist?

Broadcast 3/31/2019 at 9:16 AM EDT (24 Listens, 5 Downloads, 3176 Itunes)
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Carol Gilligan Naomi Snider: Why Does Patriarchy Persist? Carol Gilligan Naomi Snider Why Does Patriarchy Persist? Carol Gilligan is a writer, activist, NY University professor, and the author of In A Different Voice, one ...
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Carol Gilligan is a writer, activist, NY University professor, and the author of In A Different Voice, one of the most influential feminist books of all time.

Naomi Snider is a research fellow at NYU, and founder of NYU's Radical Listenting Project

They've co-authored the book, Why Does Patriarchy Persist?

Interview notes (prep and actual interview)

What is the definition of patriarchy?

Roots of the terms

Patriarchy vs democracy

Bringing women's voices into the conversation changes the conversation.

"As humans we are basically relational, empathic, responsive beings."

Avoidant attachment

How does patriarchy hurt men?

Carol, can you talk about the idea you propose in your book, In a Different Voice?

Then explain how it ties in with your new book, Why Does Patriarchy exist?

Part of the process of becoming a boy is the suppression of empathy, the hiding of vulnerability.

Patriarchy and democracy

Democracy and connection

What is connection? What are the challenges of connection?, Crises of connection

Difference between relationship and relationships

The human psyche, the human soul resists the loss of human capacities. (which patriarchy inflicts upon men and women)

Rules of patriarchy. Consequences of breaking them

Myths related to patriarchy: Oedipus, Eros, Psyche and Venus

Oedipus story is about patriarchy

Eros and Psyche story is about how to break free of patriarchy

Unconscious effects of patriarchy

Story of Adam and his friend Ollie

Story of Jackie and her silence about her rape.

Psychological functions and motives of patriarchy

Evolutional anthropology and Patriarchy

Domination vs relationships

Sacrfice of love and patriarchy, refuge from loss

Patriarchy and hierarchy

Resistance to ". Love, losing connection

Three kinds of resistance: Immune, Healthy psychological resistance to pressure, political resistancespeaking truth to power

Oppression vs relational capacity

Core tie between oppressions: Desire to live in connection, have voice, register rupture, respond with protest

Baby video .ly/babydisrupted

Connection, ruptures, healing hierarchy

Tie to John Bowlby's pathology description

Patriarchal Womanhood, manhood


Initiation into patriarchal manhood and womanhood subverts the ability to repair ruptures in relationship.

Trump, trump supporters, his meeting with Pelosi

Patriarchy produces loss of connection while protecting us

People sacrifice connection through the embrace of patriarchy to, in a sense, circumcise their hearts

Boys moving through prekindergarten to kindergarten to first grade, becoming boys, suppressing empathy, hiding vulnerability.

Boys go from loving their best friend to, by the end of high school, not having one.

Patriarchy persists in part because it forces a betrayal of love and then renders the loss irreparable.

Preventing being like Oedipus, blindly walking into what be our fate.

Loss of connection

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet (more...)

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