MORE BULLSHIT FROM FRANCIS COLLINS, OUR EVANGELICAL HEAD OF NIH
Francis Collins: Atheist Richard Dawkins Admits Universe's Fine-Tuning Difficult to Explain
Outspoken evangelical geneticist Francis Collins revealed
that combative atheist Richard Dawkins admitted to him during a conversation
that the most troubling argument for nonbelievers to counter is the fine-tuning
of the universe."If they (constants in the universe) were set at a value
that was just a tiny bit different, one part in a billion, the whole thing
wouldn't work anymore," said Collins, the director of the National
Institutes of Health, during the 31st Annual Christian Scholars' Conference at Pepperdine
University in Malibu, Calif. These constants regarding the behavior of matter
and energy - such as strong and weak nuclear forces, gravity, and the speed of
light - have to be precisely right during the Big Bang for life as we know it
to exist."To get our universe, with all of its potential for complexities
or any
kind of potential for any kind of life form, everything has to be precisely
defined on this knife edge of improbability," said the world renowned
scientist.
>>So if you want to get an unbiased and accurate account of what a world famous atheist thinks, just ask an evangelic christian, right?>>
"That forces a conclusion. If you are an atheist, either it is just a lucky
break and the odds are so remote, or you have to go to this multiverse hypothesis,
which says that there must be almost an infinite number of parallel universes
that have different values of those constants," explained Collins to
Christian scholars of various disciplines in the audience. "And of course
we are here and so we must have won the lottery, we must be in the one where
everything worked."
>>The fine tuning idea of the universe has been thoroughly debunked by physicists who have made simulations of its early formation and have shown that an intact universe could have formed even with wide swings in many of these constants (Stenger 2007). Furthermore, there are 2 major logical fallacies with this argument. The first is it incorrectly assumes that you can change any one constant without causing them all to change. The second is that if god wanted to create a universe that was designed for life or human life, in particular, why did he make one that is almost completely a near vacuum and near absolute zero in temperature? And also, why didn't he simply create humans who didn't need air, water, food, warmth or gravity which he could have done if he is the all powerful creator of everthing?
The very simple answer to these question, Francis, is
that there is no god.>>
The NIH director, who came to speak for himself and not as a government official (yeah,
sure), delivered a thoughtful yet provocative hour-and-a-half lecture last
Thursday titled, "Reflections on the Current Tensions Between Science and
Faith." This year, the Christian Scholars' Conference theme was: "The
Path of Discovery: Science, Theology, and the Academy.""A creator who
is not limited by time, doesn't need to have such a beginning," Collins
stated. "The question doesn't make any sense if you have a creator outside
of time."
>>Defining god as something that is not in either time or space is identical to saying that he/she/it does not exist at all.>>
Creation and Evolution. Unlike most evangelicals, Collins said he never struggled between his acceptance of evolution and his Christian faith. When he looks at evolution, he thinks it is part of God's elegant way of creation.
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The simple alternative to this absurd argument is that there is no god.>>
Collins also pointed out that when Darwin's evolution theory was first introduced,
there was not unanimous protest from the Church. Many Christians saw that as an
explanation to how God created the world.
>>Not so, Francis, there was a virtually unanimous outcry. Here are some quotes from the era "The principle of natural selection is absolutely incompatible with the word of God" Bishop Wilberforce; "Darwin is an apostle of dirt worship" Carlyle; "Those who refuse to accept the history of creation...and are substituting the dream of evolution in its place, cause the entire scheme of man's salvation to collapse" Dean of Chichester in University sermon. "Upon grounds of what is termed evolution, God is relieved of his labor of creation, in the name of unchangeable laws, He is discharged from governing the world" Gladstone (in Russell 1935).
How about sticking to the facts instead of inventing your own history, Francis?<<
"Look at the facts, look at the truth, and in the process, admire all the
more and worship all the more God the creator. "You are entitled to your
own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts." "Facts about
the Bible and facts about science."
>> There
are no objective facts or true prophesies in the entire bible: The head of NIH thus
denies both facts and logic.<<
References
Russell, B. Religion and Science, Oxford University Press, 1935, pp 76-81.
Dennett, D.C. and Plantinga, A. Science and Religion, Oxford University Press, 2011.
Stenger, V. God, The Failed Hypothesis, Prometheus Press, 2007 pp. 137-168.
