This election I will be voting for Democrats. I am not a Democrat, I was once, but after seeing how campaign financing really works, disgust overcame me and I tried to start a third party. Of course, the effort failed, I had no idea of what I was doing, maybe another time. Meanwhile, I just want to write about a few things that I believe are important enough to mention before we decide on who we are going to vote for, or whether or not to sit home and forget about going to the polls.
First of all, the idea of not voting in this particular election should be discarded. The thought of Republicans controlling the House and the Senate again would be too detrimental to America. The Republicans have proved to the nation that they are ineffective lawmakers. They have the Presidency, the House and the Senate, and they still couldn't get anything done. Instead of trimming government, as the Republican mantra states, they have built the largest Washington Bureaucracy since the Roosevelt years. The Department of Homeland Defense is a huge white elephant that was politically motivated, and poorly planned, and now eats tax dollars faster than the government can appropriate them. It is a bureau of redundancy. Just about everything that makes up the DHD is duplicated in another department of the government. This massive entity could have been averted by putting the NSA, or the CIA as the oversight agency responsible for making sure that all agencies were on the same sheet of music, and cooperating with each other. Instead of making one agency more powerful than the other agencies so that somebody was running the show, the administration saw fit to enlarge government by creating this unwieldy monster.
The Republicans not only gave us a more government, they also saw fit to deprive Americans of their "certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." This government has seen fit to negate Habius Corpus. This is the right of the accused to face his accuser and be presented with the evidence against them, and the right of the accused to stand trial and defend themselves against the charges, and the right to a speedy trial and to know how long they will be held. It started with the Magna Carta back in 1215, when the King was grabbing Lords and throwing them in dungeons. They also call it "due process". In reality, it is the cornerstone of human rights. I have seen this administration throw it away as if it were excess baggage. Americans should know that if the government designates anyone, even an American citizen a terrorist, that you can just "disappear". You may be "rendered" and taken aboard a charted jet with no markings, and taken to a country that allows torture, and be tortured. This is a "gift" from your government.
That isn't all. The United States also has decided, with help from this Republican-led Congress, that the Geneva Conventions, the rules of warfare that I learned in the Army, are open to our interpretation. No longer can I give my name, rank and service number and expect any country not to torture me for information. Because of the actions of our government, it is now perfectly acceptable for other countries to interpret the Geneva Conventions the way that they want to. Quid pro quid. John McCain, himself a prisoner of war, should be ashamed of himself. The reason he is alive today is because of the Geneva Conventions. Many people say that other countries don't follow them anyway. Some people kill other people. Should we make murder legal too? The list goes on. The Federal minimum wage. Stuck on $5.15 since 1997, and Congress has yet to raise it. Why? Does it cost the "Republican base" too much to pay people a living wage? Here again I hear people say that only kids will work for minimum wage, it isn't a real issue. That is a "lie of convenience". I worked for a year for the Florida Workforce. I saw the refuse to put the "real" wages in the field on the computer program that averaged wages in Charlotte County. If the wage was under $8.00, they put the wage in the "remarks" column. When I went to my Republican State Senator to complain, I was told that there is no "whistleblower" protection for Florida State workers, to do so at my own risk. I didn't speak up, and I should have. I was terminated anyway, with no reason, a month before my probation was up anyway. I could care less, I'm just pointing out that plenty of people besides kids are working for minimum wage. They are probably working more than one job too.
This prescription drug benefit for Medicare is a giant scam. If you don't need many drugs, then fine. If you need a great deal of drugs for a catastrophic illness, then fine. If you are like most people and only spend a couple of grand for drugs, you are footing the bill. It is a bad benefit, poorly planned and poorly executed. The Republican political ads even have the nerve to point out here in South Carolina that certain people (Democrats), voted against the prescription drug bill. I would have voted against it too.
Congressional oversight has been non-existent. I blame both parties for this. This "Unitary Executive Branch" authority is not in any Federal law. "Bush has used presidential "signing statements" - statements issued by the President upon signing a bill into law -- to expand his power. Each of his signing statements says that he will interpret the law in question "in a manner consistent with his constitutional authority to supervise the unitary executive branch."
When President Bush signed the new law, sponsored by Senator McCain, restricting the use of torture when interrogating detainees, he also issued a Presidential signing statement. That statement asserted that his power as Commander-in-Chief gives him the authority to bypass the very law he had just signed. (Jennifer Van Bergan: Findlaw 01/09/06)
Where is the Congressional oversight when this president refuses to obey the letter of the law? He is in reality, using a line-item veto, which is illegal by the way, on laws that he doesn't want to adhere to. The total number of "signing statements" by all Presidents before King Bush was 322. This President issued 435 in his first term alone! Where was congress when he was busy usurping their authority?
Hurricane Katrina. Need I say more? Where was the Federal response when it was needed? This administration was thinking about conquering the world while our own people were drowning in New Orleans. We responded to Pakistan's earthquake better than we responded to New Orleans. This was despicable. Congress did nothing. "Old Brownie" was doing a particularly good job, until public outcry forced the President to fire this man. His background was as a horse auctioneer. Was that the qualification to head FEMA? Still, Bush vetoed Congress when they decided that there should be a qualification description for all similar posts. The President claimed that it "tied his hands".
These are some of the reasons why I am going to vote for the Democrats in this election. You can call it number 1 in a series of articles I plan to write. I don't believe that OPEDNEWS has the space to putt all the reasons in one article. I just want you to remember, I don't make this stuff up.
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Tim's accusations that he was banned for his political positions are untrue. Check his articles. He repetitively wrote about and had published exactly the things he claimed he was banned for doing.
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The point is what's the sense? In more likely a scenario it has already been decided. Face it my friend the Military is a Republican stronghold. It matters not how many votes you have. Guns control dissatisfied voters who had their votes stolen. Guns control legislation, the Courts, the Congress, the Senate, and the People.
That is the difficult thing. Issue Resolutional Democracy is something that is the opposite of the force machine, which in my opinion makes it a cherished gem in the mantra of political dysfunction.
by ikster on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 at 8:00:07 AM
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 at 9:04:55 AM
Is that your way of saying you're boycotting the voting booth - i.e. not voting. To do otherwise would seem to conflict with your very strong anti-party position.
Just curious.
Respectfully,
CitizenMV
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Matt Vrabel (14 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 61 comments)
on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 at 5:19:35 PM
Probably not according to your way. And since they won't let me vote my way. There is a difference in looking at this. The idea is that we are all forced to vote according their way. They do not allow me my freedom to vote and secure my vote. So to think it is an issue of yes or no..it is not. It is really an issue of giving me the free right to vote according to my Issue Resolutional Agenda..
It is like the devil has said" People you are free, you can vote, but you can only vote for things that will keep us in hell"
Frankly you nimwits who call me names because I decided voting in such a system is a waste of time....it gets me or you no where, are without understanding legitimate human rights.
So to say I'm not voting is a serious manipulation on your part.
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 8:01:29 PM
Many people who previously were Republicans, Libertarians, and others to the right of the Democrats, have been flocking to the Democratic Party for this election. Polls show Democrats have a 25% lead over their Republican opponents in most Congressional races.
But lifelong Democrats have been moving away from the Democratic Party and to the left. They are angry and frustrated that the Democratic Party will not take a firm stand against electronic voting machines, will not oppose the war, will not oppose the PATRIOT Acts, will not oppose globalization, did not oppose the Military Commissions Act that destroyed habeus corpus, and has, for the past six years, been acting as an adjunct of the Republican Party, either supporting the Republican agenda, or simply refusing to oppose it.
So I congratulate you on waking up to the fact that the Republicans have been destroying this country and our Constitution, and I hope it will not take you another six years to figure out that they couldn't have done it without the complicity of the Democrats.
The basis for the Iraq war, the destruction of our civil liberties, and the loss of checks and balances in government, was 9/11 which "changed everything." But neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party seem to care about the fact that Bush was able to block any investigation into 9/11 for over a year, that the investigation which he finally allowed, did not mention Building 7 at all (Building 7 is the WTC building that collapsed just like WTC 1 & 2, but was never hit by a plane), did not pursue the question of why our air defenses failed but instead attempted to rationalize contradictory testimony by accepting several different versions of the same events, permitted Bush to censor large portions of their report, like the part relating to Saudi involvement, etc.
Neither the Republican nor the Democratic Party, upon learning that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, and upon hearing Bush himself admit that Iraq had no connection to 9/11, were willing to oppose the Iraq war. Both parties said, okay, now that we know that we were lied to about the war, we will continue to support the war based on lies, just as we support the liars who got us into that war.
So enjoy your enlightened conversion to your new religion, because your old one failed you. But a few years from now, when you realize that this one has also failed you, instead of looking around for a new social club to join, you just might consider breaking away from the herd and basing your votes on the hard work of researching and evaluating the lifelong records and documented political positions of individual candidates, regardless of party affiliation or lack thereof. And even if you've seen it before, please go back and watch the old film, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," again. Because the situation now is even worse than that depicted in the film, the filibuster is no longer used, and it will take exceptional heroes to effect any change whatsoever in corruption as usual in Congress.
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Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments)
on Friday, October 13, 2006 at 2:24:47 PM
Fine. So you and most intelligent Americans hate the right people. But is that really a good reason to vote for the close political partner of Republicrooks - you know who - the Democraps? I say no - an emphatic NO! When will people wake up to the core problem: a corrupt political partnership that defines the two-party duopoly. A partnership that is designed to make people feel good when one of the partners goes nutty and does terrible things so that the other partner (you know good cop-bad cop BS) can come to the rescue. WAKE UP! Of course, the Democraps appear better and they ARE better, but they will not restore the quality to our currently delusional democracy, nor fight economic inequality effectively and deliver economic justice. It takes a higher degree of patriotism these days to reject BOTH phony, corrupt parties. Why can't people understand that our power is in denying legitimacy to BOTH scummy major political parties. When you vote for Democraps out of hatred for Republicrooks you have fallen victim once again to the ingenious system created by and for plutocrats.
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Joel S. Hirschhorn (133 articles, 37 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 533 comments)
on Friday, October 13, 2006 at 3:24:26 PM
If you read the first part of this article, I stated that I tried to form a new political party. It failed. Where were you when we tried to launch the Liberal Party of America? Were you so busy railing against the Republicans and Democrats, you didn't see a new party trying to emerge? Do you two think you are "enlightening" me? I KNOW what has been happening, both parties are being bought by corporate and special interest groups. That's why we tried to launch the Liberal party. Both of you rant and rave, but do you seriously want a republican led Congress for the next two years so King Bush can push his "unitary executive" powers? Do you plan to "instantly" solve all our problems before election day? Just because I'm supporting democrats, does not mean that I am naive. You are not telling me or anyone else something we all don't know.
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Timothy V. Gatto (348 articles, 177 quicklinks, 38 diaries, 574 comments)
on Friday, October 13, 2006 at 6:25:27 PM
The problem is Representative Government. They promise to lie to us. Start another party?.. nonsense. Tim you saw where that got you. What we need to realize is that we only need the issues to decide the direction of the country, and the issues should be resolved by vote. The peoples vote.
Forget the idea I am voting for the guy who is going to vote for the guy, who is going to select the judge who will vote for the chairamn who will vote for the final decision. This is the BS...This is the lie.
The people need the right to vote on issues. We don't need a president of the United States. All we need are correspondents who will administer and watch the vote for issues that concern Americans.
If the issue is War...then all Americans can vote. Do not leave it up to Congress and the Senate.
I want the right to say where my tax dollars are spent. If I support education and non war...my tax dollars should go for those causes. We need not fight over who gets the right to force us to spend our tax dollars on someone elses issues. If some guy held me up and took my money for his purpose...he would be arrested for robbery. But in our government we think it is something diferrent, because they are labelled taxes?
Nonsense. I created the money through my work and labor, I should have the right to put my money where I want in my government.
If I want health care, or to raise minimum wage, I have the right to have my tax dollars go there. If I want to support a tax to create jobs, I have the right to do that.
I am not saying I am forcing Republicans to pay any taxes, they have the same right to put their taxes where their mouths are. If Democrats want health care, then let us have it. Republicans go without. Seems fair! Right?
If I want to have my taxes act as an Insurance Premium so when I die my policy will pay off the National Debt. Then I should have that right to do it.
Presently we have no rights. We debate, argue, ridicule, backbite, slander, fight, in campaigns. Home in the world is that a good process? It is not. It is degrading, and frankly I think shameful. America should not be such a contempt backward nation. That is so wrong. We have this Representative System that is designed to create contention, and anger, and disgust. While thinking it is suppose to be good for Americans? It is not.
Americans only need to have their right to vote, and the right to decide issues, without the lying representatives and the lies and money it takes to keep these jack weebles in office.
We don't need them. We are the People. We need only our vote to decide the issues...and how happily we will be..I think.
The Peoples Right To Be. Is not a party but an idea, that respects the resolution of issues by voting. We do not need Presidents and those whom use their office for unlawful influence. We need only our peoples voice, and honest results.
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Friday, October 13, 2006 at 11:56:38 PM
I said I'm voting democratic. You said vote the issues. What issues? The issues that the politicians bring up? The politicians that are bought and paid for by corporations and special interest groups? Our votes will mean nothing except stopping a President that has an agenda to immerse us in endless wars in this particular election. In most elections, our vote is meaningless until we have people that are worth voting for, that will champion issues for the people, not those that fill their campaign coffers. This is why campaign reform is so important. Probably THE MOST important issue facing Americans. These people are not OUR candidates. They are candidates bankrolled by people that do not have the public interest at heart. This is where we can make a difference. When we change how campaigns are financed, and how people are selected. Not by how much money they can raise for a campaign. That way we might get statesmen instead of political hacks. Meanwhile I'm still voting for Democrats. Anything to stop the far right. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Timothy V. Gatto (348 articles, 177 quicklinks, 38 diaries, 574 comments)
on Saturday, October 14, 2006 at 12:47:48 AM
Nothing wrong with that. While we're fighting to have a participatory democracy, you can fight for your right to party.
Have you ever seen the old film, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington?" This isn't about parties. This is about whether or not you care about anything besides political parties. Do you care about the war? Do you care about the deficit? Is there anything other than the party system that you care about? Because if there is, you'll probably find that the problem has not only existed for a long time, but has gotten worse instead of better no matter which party was in power. And a third party would do no better. A political party is a corporation that exists to seek power within the system. Not to make changes, not to represent constituents, but to seek power for itself.
Since our system is corrupt, any party that attains power within the system becomes corrupt also.
We have to look for individuals, our latter day, "Mr. Smiths," who care about the same issues we do and who have the strength and courage to fight for them. Even if it means standing up to everyone else in Congress. Even if it means getting anthraxed or assassinated. This isn't something that a party can do, but even without the filibuster, it is something than an individual can do. We have to support candidates who care about freedom and democracy and are willing to put their lives on the line for it, like some of the Iraqi Veterans Against the War who are running for Congress.
I don't think that you will bother to try to understand this. If it isn't about political parties, it doesn't interest you. But many people understand that the political party system is the reason things keep getting worse instead of better, and has to be scrapped in favor of direct democracy, as Dom so clearly explains.
Sorry, Tim, the party's over. It got way out of control, trashed our economy, destroyed our Constitution, and we're shutting it down.
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Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments)
on Saturday, October 14, 2006 at 2:55:22 AM
Timgatto I agree with you entirely. There may be a time in the future to put pressure on the Democrats, but that time is not today.
Now is a truly awful time to split the vote that is needed to stop the monolithic Republican rule of our country. Our electoral system is faulty in that it breaks down when there are more than two parties. The likely result of a three-way race is that the least popular candidate gets elected.
The fact that the Republicans utterly lack any sense of fair play in elections and are adept at suppressing their opponents and corrupting the count makes it all the more important that there be a united opposition that than garner a landslide against them.
Proponents of third-party alternatives may well be earnest in their beliefs, but in the current environment they may just as well be Republican partisans. It would not be surprising if Karl Rove has hired people to promote the alternative of voting for third parties on progressive web sites. If he is not doing this I am sure it is simply an oversight on his part - and he is pretty thorough when it comes to electoral dirty tricks.
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PrMaine (11 articles, 9 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 395 comments)
on Saturday, October 14, 2006 at 8:11:58 AM
Rove Rove Rove. You're probably right right right. Has he suckered you in? yes yes yes. So stop stop stop - playing into his game game game.
Instead of buckling under the perceived "collossus GOP Machine" (which is a figment of most Democrats imagination) as if it were some uniquely powerful Star Wars MegaForce, face it with what it really, contrary to you and other's perceptions, does not want - a third party.
A third party is not an ally but a true antagonist to the GOP. It starts with siphoning a ready for an alternative true splinter faction called Disenchanted Moderate Republicans (DMR's). We don't and I repeat don't support Rove nor the current crop of GOP leadership. A true moderate third party makes perfect sense and we'd join in a heartbeat.
Can it be any clearer.
If you want to stop the Rove bullying, don't play into it and instead treat it like any bully situation, face it head on and in this case start a true third party.
Rove doesn't want one and that is the sole reason why it makes perfect sense.
Respectfully,
CitizenMV
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Matt Vrabel (14 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 61 comments)
on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 11:05:36 PM
Let the people decide the issues. Seems to me if people represented themselves with their own vote, how can campaign finance be a problem anymore. When we use the issue format as our beckon call, then there will be no more backing of candiates who control the purse strings. Essentially their money influence is awash, is meaningless, because they can not control the peoples vote.
When people know they have the right to vote for issues, without having their votes stolen by a lying politician, then our country will become that true Democracy we have for years been searching for.
Our country began on a premise of freedom, liberty, the right to vote. The founders had no idea what was ahead, and how money interests and the military would take over this country. We as a people must realize that Democracy is always in the making.
My idea of reform is humbling the system to a United Peoples Votethon. Think of the jobs created for people who would be making sure our votes are counted fairly. Think of how the people would have the opportunity to vote for Supreme Court Justices, instead of a Presidential nod.
We would not need a Presidential authority or executive Office. That will go into the mothball tombs of history. Certainly qualified people who are higher than a C grade student will become the correspondent to America, telling the people the facts, and their voting achievements.
We need this change. We need to demand an end to Representative Government by allowing the Peoples Representational Vote. The people decide the issues, and they vote on them.
Only the people can make this change. The will of the people must protect its liberties, from self interest Private Cohorts and tyrants. It must protect itself from dictatorship which in my opinion is the same as communism.
Wake up and smell the coffee? Well I think the coffee is and has burned beyond the sense of pleasant aroma, and taste.
We need to understand that organization for the people is a necessity to make this happen. We have to get the word out to not vote for candidates. We must insist that we only want issues to vote on.
I think the first issue to be voted on would be to usher in this brand new form of American Democracy.
I find it comforting to realize that anthrax scares, or targeting politicians for decisions they make will be eliminiated. The Peoples Vote is our President. An assassin can not kill all the people. If there is no head of state, how can the leaders be blamed. It is the will of the people and it is their land and authority.
I say we have neglected the people long enough since America's founding. We have stolen enough votes and elections, stolen and killed enough people, been duped into war, long enough by lying hucksters. We don't want more Arlington's to honor the dead, we want to honor the living, and the honorable. No longer will defense contractors get what they want. They would be forced to have a real investigation of 911.
I think this new time has arrived. How about you? Someday you will realize that I Am right. The problem is REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. Let's take our country home to a place where I belong. West Virginia....
Support Real Democracy
John Denver; bless your heart...
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Saturday, October 14, 2006 at 10:58:28 PM
Is A New Third Party (built around DMR's) The Answer?
Good article and perhaps the answer, given the extremes of each of the two traditional parties, is a third party somewhere in between.
My sense is the silent majority within the John Q. Public voting ranks would welcome a third alternative with the correct mainstream ideas.
Ironically, I see the core or nucleus of that new party being the growing secessionary component of the Republican Party - The "DMR's" (Disenchanted Moderate Republicans). Perhaps the attached OpEd piece might shed some light on this new and growing phenomena and be of interest to you.
I stand by my first response, because my comments reflect something other than Representative Government. You being a DMR still want Representative Government. I say it doesn't work.
You said in your article:
So what do DMR's want?
Effectively, we want neither left nor right, but rather a "balanced middle", and a stop to the perpetual left-right pendulum swing.
In that context, let me focus on the four major DMR deciding impact themes/issues of the 2008 Presidential election in no particular order except starting with a for sure number 1: Iraq, and probably number 2: foreign policy:
1. Iraq: This will be the central driving issue of the 2008 campaign. An immediate, sensible "3 for 1 and Done" controlled withdrawal (plan), sympathetic with the liberation based theme we approved the initial invasion upon.
2. Foreign Policy: One that promotes and leverages good relations with our allies, for the benefit of our strategic and economic interests both short and long term. One that too constructively collaborates with our allies to unite and stand together to collectively address threats to global peace, whether vis a vis preferred diplomacy or last resort military action. We want America seen as a constructive world leader, one who listens and acts responsibly for not only our own, but for the good and betterment of the global community. The message "we stand alone and/or go it alone" must end. We want our country to be viewed by the world as a partner, not independent agent.
3. Domestic Policy: Responsible Citizen Concern and Incentive. Continue the direction initiated by the Clinton Administration as evident for example the case of welfare reform. There should be concern for all citizens, yet also the tools and incentives for not only government but most importantly for the people to help themselves. Also, some recognition that as the world economy and security become more globally integrated, domestic policy will be increasingly driven by foreign policy, and how can we best leverage that to maximize benefits for our citizens.
4. Taxes: In what I'll coin the "income clock" factor, we want the clock turned back, or at worst, held steady at 1PM. If you look at a typical 9-5 work day, from approx. 9AM-1PM we work for the government (taxes). The remainder of the day's rewards goes in our pockets. We want to spend more of the day working for our families, not Uncle Sam.
In return to the party who listens - We will give our vote.
I say:
This is all fine and dandy fluffernutter promises. Kind of like the same type of promises another Representative gave us named GWBush, but on other issues.
Your idea still does not solve the problem in stopping the lies, and how Representatives get away with the corruption they do.
This is why I think Parties should be eliminated, and in reality have Issues be the beckon call for the People to decide on by voting. We don't need someone to represent us. The represenatives always get it wrong. Since we are individuals we have our own will and assertions by allowing us the right to vote on all issues.
The Peoples Vote on Representation is the greatest issue of our time. We think we don't need liars, don't need money politicians. By stopping the vote on Representatives and switching to only issues, we will begin to see America's real and good democracy.
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 6:19:05 AM
Thank you for your....well......kinda' downer post.
I would start by suggesting there is the real world and there is the ideal world (aka party versus issues). I think we all agree, the latter is utopia and utopia only can be achieved by successive and substantive changes. It does not happen overnight. A third party is a great stepping stone to your desired reality.
Other thoughts: I've viewed many of your comments across this site and in sympathy with those, your comments attached to this article or at least to my specific ideas and proposals seem to carry through on with an apparent theme of "can't do".
I think if this country is to progressively move forward and make real progress beyond the problem-centric status quo (and I view OpEdNews.com as a great vehicle to help make this happen), we need people who create and push new and "constructive ideas", even iterative ones/steps, rather than relentlessly dwell, complain and do nothing on all the very obvious problems/negatives.
I think fair to say it is indeed harder to create solutions than wallow in the "problem patch", and why those that focus on the former will inevitably make a substantial mark on this nation's future.
I guess in conclusion, "Quite Frankly - Your comments were received as generally griping about the same old problems - and neither embracing nor offering "Nothing New".
Finally, you appear to be a very intelligent and informed individual. As such I would encourage you to turn your apparent can't do negative focus into positive solutions. My sense is if you do, you can contribute substantially to both constructively and progressively help move this country forward in a new direction - one it is in desparate need of. And then too, we would be able to also engage in constructive dialogue that may benefit others too.
Respectfully,
CitizenMV
PS - Thank you for re-posting the Third Party platform. To be fair, I consider that effort on your part a big positive.
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Matt Vrabel (14 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 61 comments)
on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 10:25:10 PM
I think you're a twisted user, who can not accept that your way is the problem. You seem to think your diatribes are not complaints? We have forums like this to work out solutions to problems. If you think stating problems is a complaint, and you think complaints are not worthy to address, then why do you converse?
I have provided my solution to the mess by showing how representative government is the problem. I think issues are much more important than voting for some lying politicians.
I have never seen an honest politician! What the hell is that? We must face the reality that by reinforcing a system that is designed to not work is going to make it not work.
You want to call it utopian? So Utopian in your language is a dirty word! I don't call it Utopian, I call it real directional change and improvement. I call it something really NEW. Not like the New Deal. But something that people have never thought about or realized.
It seems to me you are the one advocating the same line, the same old garbage truck democracy.
It does not work. Its kind of like smelly crushed plastic milk jugs. If they were people they keep hanging onto their garbage pals, thinking they know the way for doing things, while thinking if the old way has gotten us this far, why think anything is wrong!
Well it is wrong, and brainwashed Americans aren't smart enough to know the difference.
If you keep people poor enough sooner or later they will think that is a good thing, and not know the difference. They don't try to improve their lives.
My own Representation is enough to cast the vote for Issues facing Americans and the World. When Issues are placed in front, and everyone is allowed their own representational vote, then we get the honest picture.
We are not bewildered by stolen elections, backdoor deals, corruption in the military.
The only reason you do not accept something better is because you are afraid of the future. Admit it!
Myself I am positive looking for a NEW FORMATION by guaranteeing the People an honest agenda in government.
Indeed if Republicans were so against government, why have they made it the biggest ALBATROSS since FDR? They are liars. They use the military to force their way to Justice! It is not justice, it is lies, coercion, robbery, murder.
The people along with myself deserve a system that can not be subverted or controlled by some individual self interests. President elect steal elections, wage false wars, use fear to tame society to steal their money.
And as society falls into the pit of despair and violence, they think they are without wrong doing. They are wrong..
End Representative Government and give the People their individual rights in protecting their Votes, protecting their country, and the peoples national existence.
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 11:31:09 PM
