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February 9, 2008 at 07:16:49

Headlined on 2/9/08:
Hillary Clinton-- Victim of the War on the Feminine, Just like the 9/11 Victims

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A few weeks ago, Chris Matthews mentioned that blacks got their right to vote  50 years before  women.  Yesterday, Meryl Ann Butler  wrote an article, suggesting similar ideas, WHEN ANATOMY TRUMPS COLOR: Race and Gender Patterns and their Possible Effect Upon the 2008 Presidential Race,  saying;

In race and gender patterns in the United States, men of color have traditionally been granted their rights in advance of women. Therefore, as long as this pattern continues, Barack Obama is better positioned than Hillary Clinton to beat John McCain, or any other white male Republican.

One woman commented on the article, titling her comment, THE WAR AGAINST WOMEN, saying,

 You can argue whether racism or sexism is stronger in America, but I don't think you can argue that women - both black and white - have not been the victims of systematic violence. "The War Against Women" by Marilyn French, talks about this.

Leonard Shlain wrote a fascinating book, THE ALPHABET and the GODDESS, collecting together a report on the research which described how the advent of writing changed the way the brain processed information.

Cultures went from storytelling and oral transmission of cultural history to the more linear writing. This changed the way the brain worked and culture changed from a female, priestess and empress, earth mother worship culture to a male dominated one.

It's not that the brain changed, but the patterns of use changed. Much has been written on this by other language experts and anthropologists.

Hillary faces this and more challenges in her efforts to win the Democratic primaries and the presidency.

More recently, Susan Faludi, in her book Terror Dreams, describes how the response to the 9/11 attack mirrored, or recapitulated early America's treatment of women-- as helpless, dependent and weak.  When I first heard Chris Matthews observe that black voting rights came before women's, Faludi's book came to mind. Faludi used a biomedical analogy-- the concept the ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny--- that the stages of development of a fetus recapitulate the evolutional stages from single celled micro-organism to fish to amphibian to reptile to hairy mammal.  It's tough to fight the tide of nature. And tough to fight the inertia of centuries old cultural habits.

Today, right wing values include rejection of the feminine-- not just women, but the whole spectrum of feminine archetypal ways of seeing, living, thinking.  Bush and his machismo offer undereducated men who have lost their jobs through globalization and outsourcing a dose of viagra to make them feel more masculine.

Hillary is a huge threat to their sense of self, sense of power. There's nothing rational about it.

Until the left faces this reality-- that part of winning with progressive, liberal values includes changing men's and religion's reactions to the feminine-- the left's strategy for success will be unsuccessful. That's a challenging assignment. Just look at how so many religious organzations are built upon "values" that  reject equal rights and treatment for women.  Southern Baptists, the Catholic Church, Islam, Orthodox Judaism-- they all require different and not equal treatment for women. Most, if not all of them, argue that women are better off that way, with more power in the home, protection from men, etc. 

This is not an easy battle. I do think "battle" is the right word, because the churches, temples and mosques that  oppose equal rights for women, that oppose the ascendance of the feminine, consider efforts to give women equal rights, to give women the right to control their bodies an assault upon the faith, upon the church. 

When we look at the progress women have made-- that it took just 50 more years to give women the vote, then we can be hopeful, that such change has overcome the millenia old cultural inertia that has resisted the changes sought.

This comment ought to get me in trouble. Sadly, the battle for women's rights may actually be stoking Islamic terrorism. I believe that the main inspiration and motivation for Islamic terrorism is the assault of western culture and values upon Muslim culture. When Christian missionaries attempt to evangelize and convert Muslims, it is understandable that religious leaders and practitioners see t his as an attack on their culture and values.

The fact is, Christianity has an ugly history of demonizing non-christian cultures as heathen, as despicable, and of going in and destroying those cultures, often assisted by devastating diseases carried by the missionaries and soldiers. Many cultures, even whole civilizations have fallen in the face of Christian evangelical assaults.

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I'm a free thinking liberal democrat who is very frustrated at the apathy of the American people. Knowledge is power, and I am thankful that there are many who take the time to write thoughtful and informative articles. .
Athena88I'm a free thinking liberal democrat who is very frustrated at the apathy of the American people. Knowledge is power, and I am thankful that there are many who take the time to write thoughtful and informative articles. .

great article

I told my sister that former black male slaves had the legal right to vote before white females and she did not believe me until she researched the information.

Misogyny is much more pervasive than racism, all one has to do is watch the talking heads on the so-called news shows.  I rarely hear any positive remarks about Hillary Clinton and most remarks are of a personal put down and not a reflection of her stand on the issues.

Athena

 

by Athena88 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 22 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 8:19:15 AM
 


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john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

Is there anything feminine

About Hitlery ? I plan to vote for a woman this election, Cynthia Mckinney.

If my memory serves me correctly we are trying to replace globalists with a more honest less greedy and less violent candidate. So now we are subjugating women because we reject the corporate beast Clinton ? Why are we hiding the real issues under the race-gender rug ?

Mckinney is the perfect candidate, black and female and anti-establishment. I am going to be politically correct for a change.

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 395 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 8:26:50 AM
 


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francineRetired university professor.

Insightful article

...as usual from Mr. Kall.

This campaign has brought to the fore the persistance of a virulent, archaic  form of misogyny that liberals tend to think of as a  thing of the past.

The stupid questions about diamond and pearls, the comments about non existent tears, ''how can we beat the bitch'', and ''I don't want to see Hillary Clinton's face wrinkle'' to name but a few...

Hillary Clinton has been acting for years as a sort of magnet, or lightning rod,  for this latent misogyny, ever since the day she claimed she would not bake cookies. For a significant number of Americans, she has become ''the woman you'd love to hate''. For some mysterious reason, she brings out the worse in some people.

Why her, why not Condoleeza Rice, her ice queen demeanor and dominatrix sartorial style for instance? It would be interesting to find out why exactly people dislike HC so intensely. After, she's not responsible for any war and anyone's death, and still she is hated worse than Bush.

This is totally irrational and unfair, at times it borders on lynching, but For this reason, I doubt if she is electable. And it might well be that, for the same reason that African Americans males were allowed to vote 50 years before white women, an African American male has far more chances to be elected.

 

by francine (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 299 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 8:40:17 AM
 


I'm a concerned, middle aged blogger and member of the ACLU. I hail from the Bay Area. I Lobbied congress with the ACLU over the more unconstitutional elements of the USA Patriot Act. Marched in peace protests, lost a former school chum in the world trade center on 9/11.
Michael ShawI'm a concerned, middle aged blogger and member of the ACLU. I hail from the Bay Area. I Lobbied congress with the ACLU over the more unconstitutional elements of the USA Patriot Act. Marched in peace protests, lost a former school chum in the world trade center on 9/11.

''the woman you'd love to hate''

As I recall the first time Hillary was attacked was after proposing a national health care plan. Then suddenly came the question as to who was the real president or who is wearing the pants in that family. Then it got worse, starting with Bill's intern event where many Rovian boyscouts tried to depict her as having driven Bill to it. Thus the ice queen remarks and then the lesbian accusations and finally the Hildebeast.

This woman has gone through a lot! More I think than any other first lady. Since its been publicized nationally and even internationally and across the Internet then perhaps even more than any other woman beyond being raped, assaulted or killed. Yet here she is running for president of the United States and in a dead heat too!  Also had the democrats run their election under the same guidelines as the republicans, she would have a lead.

Whether you love her or hate her, you would have to respect any woman who has gone through so much abuse. Since women in general are the most victimized members in our society, there is no small wonder as to why so many are flocking to her and lending her support in this crucial election. They relate to these abuses literally!

That said and although I'm a male, I like Hillary Clinton. And although no one agrees with everyones policies all the time, and she was not my first choice for president, I never disliked her or hated her as some apparently do.

We need a good national healthcare plan. We need a smart leader. But beyond anything else, we need someone in there with strength, like Hillary who could withstand nasty personal attacks for more than a decade and still keep her chin up and stand firmly on her feet.

I like Obama too. But the media is treating him with kit gloves as they do with McCain and Huckabee. McCain is the war hero who said it was safe to shop in Baghdad while wearing body armor and being ascorted by several armed guards, armored escort vehicles and choppers. Huckabee is portrayed as a sing along Sam, a guitar toting minister rather then a bible thumping threat to what's left of our Bill of Rights. Then there's Obama, the greatest speaker and innovator since Robert Kennedy. As for Hillary, she still might be a lesbian, she wears pants suits and is the ice queen. She's still the Hildebeast!

My hat goes off to Hillary Clinton. It would be poetic justice if she wins the nomination and goes on to be the first female president of the United States.  Then all those bastards who went out of their way to assassinate her character will end up as the nefarious footnotes they should, along with Bush, Cheney and the entire neocon shrub factory!

 

 

 

by Michael Shaw (7 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 310 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 11:12:05 AM
 


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Rob

As you mentioned, much of the resistance to women in position of power is the result of past culture, which dies slowly.

That being said, I don't think Hillary Clinton is a good example for a fairness comparison. She obviously has baggage, not the least being Bill. Mrs. Clinton also possesses a grating personality. Polls for years have shown that Hillary was disliked vehemently by some 50% of the nation.

I consider the cases of Angela Merkel and Margaret Thatcher, in both the German and English cultures, they were subjected to the same disadvantages, but in the end were elected to lead their respective nations.

We need to test the waters with a more likable candidate to get a more honest reaction.

Pete Rose was a heck of baseball player...but liked?

by Mike Folkerth (120 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 566 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 8:58:03 AM
 


SW Texas ultra-liberal
john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

How about a full disclosure

of where the 250 million went from the Childrens Fund ? Do the priveleged dynasty globalists have some right to our treasury money? I can feel absolutely no sympathy for the monster and its high time the Clinton mafia gets more and more pointed criticism. Real estate swindlers, murderers and the worst of all, attorneys, gag me with a spoon. No sympathy for the devil here, just heap on more brimstone. The traitors that brought us NAFTA now want to finish the job by completely destroying the middle-class. To even consider that thing as a leader means that those who accept her deserve to go down under the jack-boot.

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 395 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 6:41:00 PM
 


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Who got the rights first?

Hi Rob,

After the African American males received the right to vote came the Jim Crow era with all its trimmings. At least, as far as I know, when women got the right to vote they kept it.  African Americans still suffer from racism at the polls. White women don't suffer sexism in this same venue.

So how does that affect the outcome of the upcoming election? Without having read the rest of your article (which I will after writing this), I agree that Hill will get stoned to death by the Neocons. It's hard not to be in Washington long before the skeletons start hanging in your closet, and Barack just hasn't been here that long.

And now to your article and then my blog.

Cenerentola 

 

by Marta Steele (28 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 29 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 9:00:08 AM
 


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Marta SteeleMarta Steele is a writer/editor/blogger/sometime professor/indexer/proofreader extremely concerned that our democracy is going to pot and using all my skills, including some knowledge of some foreign languages, to try to make things better. I blog several times a week on peace and election protection, among other issues.

Aw c'mon

Rob,

Your're right again without citing the compelling evidence: that the root of bin Laden's enmity toward us--he was an ally in the eighties--was the American military's "casual" treatment of Muslim women when they were in Saudi Arabia.

As far as Hillary is concerned, the question concerns not so much her gender as her closet full of skeletons, a glorious feast for the Neocons if she wins the nomination.

Cen again

by Marta Steele (28 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 29 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 9:06:58 AM
 


Dr. Kevin Barrett, coordinator of the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance for 9/11 Truth, has taught English, French, Arabic, American Civilization, Humanities, African Literature, Folklore, and Islam at colleges and universities in the San Francisco Bay area, Paris, and Madison, Wisconsin. He grew up in a family of lapsed Unitarians (which is about as lapsed as it gets) and reverted to Islam in 1993, a move that gradually impressed upon him the gravity of the moral choices we make in this life. Ba...

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Kevin BarrettDr. Kevin Barrett, coordinator of the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance for 9/11 Truth, has taught English, French, Arabic, American Civilization, Humanities, African Literature, Folklore, and Islam at colleges and universities in the San Francisco Bay area, Paris, and Madison, Wisconsin. He grew up in a family of lapsed Unitarians (which is about as lapsed as it gets) and reverted to Islam in 1993, a move that gradually impressed upon him the gravity of the moral choices we make in this life. Ba...

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Rob, this post is genocidal hate speech

I share many of your values and your general outlook, Rob. I've read Schlain and I think he's mostly right. And it's true that American culture has a deep antifeminine streak that manifests politically--just look at the way Cynthia McKinney was assaulted by a male "security" icon and then victimized again by the media because she resisted the assault.


But because you've got your facts about 9/11, Islam and the Islamic world so wrong, this post qualifies as genocidal hate speech.

Fact #1: The 19 Muslims blamed for 9/11 were not not Muslim extremists at all, but lap-dance loving, pork-chop relishing, coke-snorting, hard-drinking intelligence agents who trained at secure US military facilities, pretended to learn to fly at CIA drug import airstrips badly disguised as flight schools, were linked to 9/11 through planted evidence, and in many cases were reported alive after 9/11--and the FBI now says Bin Laden is "not wanted" for 9/11 because there is "no hard evidence" against him. Given this, the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center, and mountains of other evidence, it is obvious that 9/11 was a false-flag operation designed to demonize Muslims and "Muslim extremists" and legitimize their mass murder. By repeating the slander, you're contributing to the genocide.

2) Traditional Islamic cultures (there are many) are generally MORE right-brain, feminine-values dominant than either traditional OR modern Western culture. Muslim women have been suing their husbands for their legal right to sexual satisfaction for centuries before the West could even agree that women enjoyed sex! And that's the least of it. Please read Ann Chamberlin's book The Veil in the Looking Glass to see how Middle Eastern and Muslim women have EMPOWERED themselves through veiling and seclusion from time immemorial.

3) Today's Islamism is a re-thinking and revision of traditional Islamic cultures (which do have some harmful, Islamically incorrect, and/or antifeminine aspects) and most Muslim feminists who want to change the traditions they find harmful or disempowering are Islamists. In Morocco, the country where I did my dissertation research, the leading "radical Islamist" leader is a feminist named Nadia Yassin. In Iran, the Islamic revolution unleashed a wave of female hitchhiking--because an Islamic order creates a safe environment for women. Women are generally huge supporters of and participants in Islamist parties and movements, including the ones demonized by the US-Israeli media like Hamas and Hezbullah.

4) Finally, the generally pro-feminine quality of Islam and Islamism derives from the Qur'an's correction of mistaken Jewish and Christian notions that God is a big, hairy, bearded patriarch. The Qur'an debunks this sexist, anthropomorphic picture of God. It tells us that God is ineffable, but that if we do wish to try to imagine him/her/it, the first two tangible qualities are mercy and compassion (rahman/rahim) which derive from the word "womb" and describe a kind of mother-love. Thus to the extent that God has a gender according to Islamic teaching (which ultimately he/she/it doesn't) it would lean ever-so-slightly toward the feminine.

Please reflect on the possibility that your post might be based on wrong facts and deep ignorance, and that it may be contributing to the genocidal murder of more than a million Muslims (so far) around the world.


by Kevin Barrett (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 9:50:23 AM
 


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I Agree with Kevin - stop with the Al Qaeda BS

The entire National Security doctrine is predicated on the existence of Al Qaeda. The history of this organization is inexorably tied to the CIA since the Soviet-Afghan war - although we of course will never hear about any of these facts through the propaganda machine known as the mainstream media. The US intelligence community created Al Qaeda, nurtured it, and is now utilizing it as a central proposition for their "war on terror". Even among most of the dissenters of the current administration, the tendency to blame our protectors for security failures which allows terrorism to thrive is in itself a ruse - if you demonize the government for ineptitude you still buy into their myth and central premise regarding Al Qaeda. Once you apprehend the basic fraudulence of the US government's claims about this mythical organization and their omnipresent threat to the world - the entire "war of terror" unravels and we can clearly see it as a system of lies, hatred and fear promulgated to benefit a small, malevolent group of psychopaths. 

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken

by CasaZaza (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 120 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 10:33:24 AM
 


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Please see the writer here Muhammad Kurshid and others

... its fine to have a conspiracy theory that these groups dont exist, but we have real people reporting here on how the existence of these groups is creating a hell for them, their families and their communities. I think it is no longer a cute exercise when you have real victims right here you can speak with and discuss.

by Steven Leser (193 articles, 38 quicklinks, 32 diaries, 1299 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 3:27:45 PM
 


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whoa

Except for the most extreme fundamentalists in Islam, I don't have a problem with women enjoying the culture they choose to live. But I think it is true that American culture and values are offensive to them and that it can and does inspire anger, hate and worse.

I find western culture and the desire to evangelize its religion, it's economic system, it's materialism and all the other parts that go along with the cultural package to be destructive and dangerous. I live in it and, with some complaints about the politics, generally accept it. But I don't believe we have the right to shove it down the throats of other cultures. I actually believe that the UN should set up borders around the remaining indigenous, preliterate tribal people, with armed guards to protect them from missionaries, lumber mills, miners, drillers, etc.   

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Rob, you are missing the point

Rob, Casazaza and Kevin Barrett have made points that you are not addressing (even if it started with just a slither in your initial article).

You seem to start with a premise (too widely embraced) that the US was attacked on 9/11 by Muslim extremists.  We have ample evidence that 9/11 was something VERY different.  I urge you to look at it if you are unaware. www.journalof911studies.com is one place to begin.  I won't go into details here, but you have got to stop springing off this terribly wrong premise about 9/11.

Much of what you say generally re Western culture may have merit, but the 9/11 comparison is just awful.  Al Qaida was creeated and funded by US intelligence.  It was used on 9/11 to create an illusion that "America is under attack" by Islamist extremists.  But the stand down of the US Air Force was not an al Qaida directed phenom!  Wake UP!

I agree with the poster who said Cynthia McKinney is closer to the feminine ideal than Hill Clint.  Both Clintons are charlatans.  Had any ordinary high level staffer made the gaffs Bill C did before AND AFTER the So Carolina primary, the candidate would have SACKED them.  That Hill didn't tell Bill then to "take a walk" shows that she does not know how to be an executive we can trust.  There is no salvaging Hill Clint now as anything remotely progressive.  Sorry.

I think it is time now to begin to roll the drums for an Al Gore draft.  Do we want to win against McCain in November? 

Draft Al Gore to break the deadlock!  Quite honestly, anybody today who WANTS to be president is disqualified by having the desire.  One not seeking the office is far more suited to the job.  Obama can be a good VP running mate, ready in 4 yrs or 8 to step up.  Hill can be given the next Supreme Court vacancy and she could be quite good there.  And Bill could butt out very easily.  We need at least two women on the court. 

This is where the feminine impulse can have real voice and in that position, Hill Clint might even be able to find hers. Offering that might be a decent way to get her to step aside.  It gets very ugly if she can't.

by Carl Weis (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 5:29:24 PM
 


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fouA proud gay man

Good Article Finally

Rob, you are finally getting closer to getting it right. I've been reading OpEdNews for a while and have never heard you say a good thing about Hillary.

In fact, I've seen you jump on the anti-woman bandwagon lots of times. You have helped feed the anti-feminist flames.

But maybe now you are seeing things as they should be seen.

I teach sex and gender classes and have been published in the field. So, I'm not just blathering as so many Hillary haters here are doing.

And this list is full of them. I'm amazed how the supposed left wing can be so sexist and misogynistic. I suppose it shouldn't surprise me, as many of the left wing movements in the past have been abysmal on the issues of equality for women and even moreso on the issues of equality of gays/lesbians.

Hillary has been unfairly accused of many things, not only by the right wing hate fest, but also by many on this list. I am appalled and that's one reason I always hesitate when thinking about telling others of this list. There's a lot of hate going on out there and much of it has seeped into this list.

As for the comment that someone made about skeletons in HRC's closet -- I'd say that after being in the public eye for so long, she's been tested and they will have very little to throw against her.

BO on the other hand has a book filled with skeletons which he gladly offered for the right wing to use against him. They want him to be the candidate because they know he will easily be beaten in the fall.

They are playing an old game - pretending to gleefully want Hillary to be nominated, pretending that she will be divisive and make it easier for them to win, so that Democrats won't nominate her. And may nominate someone weaker. And with the help of the MSM some idiots are buying this load.

And that's another point: with all the railing against the MSM here at OpEdNews, it is astonishing that so many OpEdNews readers/contributors have bought the MSM story on Hillary. And not just bought it but repeat it word for word! Are you guys distrustful and disgusted by the MSM or are you just tools of it?

Think about it.

Hillary is the best of the best candidates we have had in a long time.

We're ready for a female President and I, for one, am delighted by the prospect. I do not fear it as do so many men (even the so-called liberals/progressives on this list).

Hillary for President -- Now!

by fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 88 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 9:51:26 AM