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April 3, 2008 at 23:36:35

Headlined on 4/3/08:
It Has Happened: I'm a 9/11 Truther; A New Investigation, Broad Amnesty, and Forgiveness

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The biggest problem with the 9/11 Truth Movement is where it leads: a place dark and evil beyond imagination. Even if deep down you believed it was an inside job, you would need to deny it.



So when hundreds of American military officers, pilots, engineers, and CIA veterans stepped forward to say they believed the official story to be a monstrous lie, I was shaken to the core. There had to be an explanation for everything. The combination of forces and heat that took down the towers was unique; no engineer could give a definitive answer. The hijackers got lucky, including a good dose of incompetence and shortsightedness on the part of the government, which is nearly criminal, but not complicit. It's always easier for governments to lie than admit how stupid they are. The conspiracies led to the deep dark hole that we are ruled by criminal psychopaths, who, in one theory, had knowledge of impending attacks by bin Laden, and made sure they would succeed.

But are we? Hundreds of military officers of the highest rank with everything to lose (since their paychecks are signed by the US government), and scientific and engineering professionals, their credentials an open target, as well as the legions of Americans who sacrificed jobs or emptied their 401Ks to perform the thousands of hours of research, retrieval of video clips seen once on television then strangely disappeared, and all the other thankless, payless tasks associated with putting together evidence that can no longer be ignored. This tells me our republic is alive and well, and we can only be ruled by a cabal if we let them.

The credentials of patriotsquestion911.com read like a wall of shining brass and silver mounted on wood, the accomplishments of lifetimes decorating grandpa's study: Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Retired commercial airline captain with 27 years experience. Aircraft flown: Boeing 727, 757 and 767, McDonnell Douglas MD-80, and Fokker F-100. Retired fighter pilot. Former Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School (Topgun). Professor Emeritus, Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former President, Joint Committee on Structural Safety, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

And there are HUNDREDS of them.

Those buildings were full of people. How could anybody "pull" them down? How is it possible for a human being to do this?

It was happening to me. Reading all that two and four-star brass saying it looked like a conspiracy put me face-to-face with it. I was becoming a 9/11 Truther. Kooks, lunatics, nuts. Everyone knows this. But these experts were just too credible, something the movement hadn't been before. I didn't need to be an expert or do much more research. It had been done, by military personnel with more flying time and expertise than I would have in a dozen lifetimes. And if they said there were a hell of lot of questions that needed to be answered in a new commission, That was good enough for me. I am now a 9/11 Truther. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Their words are unparsed and direct: "a joke," "a cover-up," "a monstrous series of lies," "a pretext for war," "not a serious piece of analysis," riddled with "serious shortcomings," "omissions," and "major flaws."

Here finally was the testimony I both sought and dreaded, confirming, in many cases, my first instincts on hearing the news on that terrible day. Amateur pilots flew these planes HOW FAR and threaded needles in a haystack? That pilot did a steep HOW MANY degree dive to hit the Pentagon? Everyone who has seen a demolition on TV is to believe that these were NOT demolitions, buildings falling at free-fall speed into their own footprint? But I'm no expert on much of anything. I leave it to the people who make this stuff their study 8 hours a day, year after year, and have the degrees to show for it.

Of the corkscrew dive which supposedly put a commercial airliner into the Pentagon, Pilots For 911 Truth say:

"Once this maneuver was completed, without going into a graveyard spiral, he started to pull out of the descent at 2200 feet and accelerated only 30 knots more at full power to 460 knots in a descent from 2200 feet to the pentagon in about a minute (Whats Vmo at sea level for a 757? Flap speed? Since it looks like he may have found the flap handle only accelerating 60 knots from 7000 feet, the from 2200 feet at full power). AA77 crossed the highways, knocking down light poles, entered ground effect, didnt touch the lawn and got a 44 foot high target (Tail height of 757) into a 77 foot target completely, without overshooting or bouncing off the lawn, or spreading any wreckage at 460 knots. With a 33 foot margin for error. Wow, impressive. Takes a real steady hand to pull that off. I know it would take me a few tries to get it so precise, especially entering ground effect at those speeds. Any slight movement will put you off 50 feet very quickly. Im sure we all would agree."

"So, who pulled off this stunt? Hani Hanjour. Reported to have 600TT and a Commercial Certificate (see quotes right margin). Hani tried to get checked out in a 172 a few weeks prior at Freeway Airport in MD. Two seperate CFI's took Hani up to check him out. Baxter and Conner found that Hani had trouble controlling and landing a 172 at 65 knots. Bernard, the Chief CFI, refused to rent him the 172. I have instructed many years. I have soloed students in 172's when i had 300 hours as a CFI. How anyone could not control a 172 at 600TT and a Commercial is beyond me. Flight Schools keep going till you "get it" if you are a bit rusty, and then rent you the plane. They are in business to make money after all. .right? The Chief CFI basically refused any further lessons and basically told him to get lost."


The question becomes: how do people deal with the monstrous implications of this? I think most people, even if they are convinced, could not deal with the enormity of an entire government this evil. But a limited cabal of criminal psychopaths I can wrap my mind around. That can be excised. Other countries have gone through their velvet revolutions, gone through truth commissions, like the silent protests of Mothers of the Disappeared in Argentina, and they have gone on. Pinochets and Fujimoris have been put on trial, or near it, and the countries have gone on. This can be done without civil strife and social upset. Some of the most important people in this kind of truth movement, the nation's military officers, are speaking out.

For every sign of being surrounded by evil, I see three other signs of being surrounded by brave, fearless patriots. The relatively small cabal that the 9/11 Truth Movement leads us to involves, according to Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret), "treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government."

The 9/11 Truth Movement should be about reconciliation and finding out the truth. Full amnesty should be offered to military officers who step forward who are privy to details of the stand-down, the Pentagon operation, or other military-technical details. Immunity should also be granted to members of Congress who believe they received briefings which may make them complicit. We have questions. Lots of questions. Mr. Wolfowitz, please elaborate on the phrase "absent a catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor" in reference to the Project for a New American Century's clear advocacy of a military invasion of Iraq, page Section V of the essay "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Am I to take it that a new Pearl Harbor would have been welcomed? As a major policy-maker do you understand how close this is to treason, sir?

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Erik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. Member of 911Truth.org Advisory Board. Opinions expressed here are my own. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

Recommended links:
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Better World OrderErik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. Member of 911Truth.org Advisory Board. Opinions expressed here are my own. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

Recommended links:
9/11 Family Steering Committee Review of the 9/11 Commission Report

http://www.911truth.org/downloads/Family%20Steering%20Cmte%20review%20of%20Report.pdf

JusticeFor911.org Complaint and Petition
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Truth & Reconciliation Commission- 9/11, Iraq, Fed, IRS, etc

Complete 9/11 Timeline made from over 5000 articles exclusively from mainstream sources.

9/11 Commission ignored testimony of FBI whistleblowers Coleen Rowley, Sibel Edmonds and Robert Wright- not whistleblower, but agent Harry Samit accused his superiors of criminal negligence in the Moussaoui trial. Ken Williams, Phoenix Memo. 

Criminals, need to testify under oath- David Frasca, head of the Radical Fundamentalist unit, obstructed investigations that could've stopped 9/11. Marion "Spike" Bowan, Michael Maltbie.

DoD whistlblowers, Able Danger- Scott Philpott, Anthony Schaffer 

 Insider Trading - Warning Signs Banking crime families like the Morgans and Rockefellers need to testify under oath

Sibel Edmonds' State Secrets Privilege Gallery needs to testify under oath

 I would not automatically endorse everyone at "Patriots" Question 9/11 , though- he's got people like James Fetzer, Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood on there- crackpot/COINTELPRO alert. 

Also, anyone who emphatically, absolutely claims that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon either hasn't researched enough to know that's it's been shown how it could have been a 757, or they KNOW it's a red herring and are trying to sabotage the truth movement 

 911research.wtc7.net Pentagon

  OilEmpire.US Pentagon

 

 

by Better World Order (4 articles, 229 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 644 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 12:05:19 PM
 


I feel there is only one thing left to do - fight forces of ignorance and hate in any manner I am capable. If indeed this life prepares you for next, I want to go out shinning a light of love and to never harm another living thing in any way, outside of protecting innocents and myself from direct harm, I will not use violence, nor because of my life-style have violence perpetrated on others. Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. www.nolevee.com
Mr MI feel there is only one thing left to do - fight forces of ignorance and hate in any manner I am capable. If indeed this life prepares you for next, I want to go out shinning a light of love and to never harm another living thing in any way, outside of protecting innocents and myself from direct harm, I will not use violence, nor because of my life-style have violence perpetrated on others. Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. www.nolevee.com

Getting Through ...

Basically I’ve run into 4 general types, those that readily believe we’ve been lied to, those that think Truthers are nuts, those that are simply too busy to pay any attention and those that refuse to know. Of the 4 the latter seem to be the hardest to get though to.

 

As the article mentions, no one wants to believe that a humane being can be so depraved as to commit such a crime, let alone a large group of humans.

 

I find it hard to believe they can’t believe such a thing when overwhelming evidence has surrounded us through out mankind’s history that such atrocities have been committed since the dawn of time and continue to this day. I need not list all the wars, crimes of genocide, false flag operations that have been well documented to shatter any notion of mankind’s so-called “benevolent” nature. We are a cruel lot.

 

The fact that this country has passed through several generations of what can only be termed a Disneyland version of reality, in that in the past 50 years or so we’ve near all of us lived like kings compared to what most of the rest of the world has to endure. This makes it extremely hard for those that have believed all the lies all their lives to simply throw all their core beliefs out the window. I can only imagine it would be as if it told that ones otherwise, loving and outwardly respectable parents were found to be holding sex-slaves in the basement of the house you grew-up in, murdering them and burying them in the back yard. People just don’t want to go there. They don’t want to find out that everything they’ve been told since birth is a lie.

 

And I can’t really blame them. But fact is they don’t matter anyway as long as they don’t get in the way. For it is those that don’t believe and those that are busy that are the only ones that can be reached. The ones that believe the official story can at least be engaged and ones that are busy can be reached. And in the “too busy” crowd they’ll also splinter into one of the other groups once exposed.

 

There is one thing about 9/11 that separates itself from say the Kennedy Assassination or other crimes of government conspiracy, in that of its magnitude, audacity and pure diabolical nature. It sucks the breath from you once the truth ignites within you.  But once exposed everything in your life changes, for never again can one look at their government in the same way as before.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 1024 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 2:43:57 PM
 


I am no one in particular.
John StanI am no one in particular.

How to get through?

We should keep in mind that the fourth category of people you refer to, those who refuse to consider any argument against their position, will be those who, when the truth finally comes out, will be the most vehement in calling for all perpetrators at every level to be put to death or even tortured ("An eye for an eye", they will say). In part, their anger will grow out of self-anger for having allowed themselves to be made to look like fools for so long.

It is to these people that we must start any appeal to them to consider a different version of events with a call for forgiveness of others in life as well as in international affairs. At the very least, they might begin to see the irrationality of their hatred of ordinary Afghanis, Iraqis, Iranians and others.

This would change for the better their biased image of truthers as rabid anti-Americans who blame the US government for all problems in the world and in their own lives bent on revenge and self-actualization through violence against the government.

The issue of the need to create a 9/11 Truth and Reconciliation Commission was first raised on this site a year ago in a series of comments to the following article (incidentally, you, Mr M, contributed to the comments there as well):

www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joseph_s_070414_a_9_2f11__22smoking_gun_22.htm

click here

by John Stan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Monday, April 7, 2008 at 1:41:11 AM
 


Host of "American Voices" radio-Wednesdays 7-8PM Eastern & Co-Host of popular "Strait & Kall"radio programming- Thursdays 8-9PM Eastern, airing on WNJC1360 in the Philadelphia Pennsylvania radio market(live internet stream www.wnjc1360.com);

Frequent guest/co-host on "Voice of the Voters" radio.

Most importantly, a concerned and involved American.

James StraitHost of "American Voices" radio-Wednesdays 7-8PM Eastern & Co-Host of popular "Strait & Kall"radio programming- Thursdays 8-9PM Eastern, airing on WNJC1360 in the Philadelphia Pennsylvania radio market(live internet stream www.wnjc1360.com);

Frequent guest/co-host on "Voice of the Voters" radio.

Most importantly, a concerned and involved American.

One mans truth is another's mans mystery.

You state:

"The biggest problem with the 9/11 Truth Movement is where it leads: a place dark and evil beyond imagination. Even if deep down you believed it was an inside job, you would need to deny it."

This is an observation that is applicable to anyone in denial. The corollary to your observation is that when consumed by confusion and hate, paranoia fueled theories predicated upon suspect data promote robotic acceptance within that small delusional circle of people with a predisposition to buy into such drivel. 

People choose whatever truth will soothe the beast that lives in their gut. Some choose christianity, other Judaism, others Jim Jones. The 9/11 truth movement is akin to a cult religion that attracts angry people who want to lash out at what they cannot control. And since most of them are spoiled American brats....they are ALL about control. 

As far as "war games" being rehearsed that resemble a 9/11 event...I would hope that we have rehearsed or at the very least considered every devious sick perverse evil trick that mankind can envision. We've certainly given the govenment enough tax money to pay for limitless theoretical war games. Lets hope they used and are using it intelligently. 

A 9/11 scenario may have indeed been rehearsed, yet have no connection to a real event.

by James Strait (39 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 191 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 2:44:24 PM
 


I feel there is only one thing left to do - fight forces of ignorance and hate in any manner I am capable. If indeed this life prepares you for next, I want to go out shinning a light of love and to never harm another living thing in any way, outside of protecting innocents and myself from direct harm, I will not use violence, nor because of my life-style have violence perpetrated on others. Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. www.nolevee.com
Mr MI feel there is only one thing left to do - fight forces of ignorance and hate in any manner I am capable. If indeed this life prepares you for next, I want to go out shinning a light of love and to never harm another living thing in any way, outside of protecting innocents and myself from direct harm, I will not use violence, nor because of my life-style have violence perpetrated on others. Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee. www.nolevee.com

Oh, what a tangled web you weave ...

"In politics nothing happens 'by chance.' If something happens, then you can bet that it was planned that way."
-Franklin Delano Roosevelt

"there are no coincidences in politics" ~ old adage

One has to be deluded not to believe that we spend unaccounted, unaudited billions of dollars - (maybe trillions, we don't know) on so-called "intelligence" agencies of various kinds and that this by its very nature wouldn't attract those that live to hatch conspiracies.  

Really? You seem to want to have people believe that these agencies, who are accountable to no one, who work completely in secret, who have their fingers in every business, government, network, who have access to weapons and surveillance systems we haven't even heard of, who have files on anyone they wish to have one on and can make or break anyone that threatens their existence - that somehow they're just playing "war games"?

Are you for real? Do you know how foolish you sound? You can see why you're not real popular spewing these absurd ideas?

I may be ignorant - but I'm not stupid. And there is one thing I am dead-sure about - what the government's so-called "official story" of 9/11 was is crap - total, six-ways-to-Sunday bullshit - and you pedaling that crap makes you suspect

So other than you weaving your words around in a transparent attempt to sound as though you have gravitas you have actually nothing to say ...  

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 1024 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 9:20:35 PM
 


DOB -- September 20, 1940. Became active in civil rights and peace movements in 1962. Active in socialist and antiwar movements -- 1963-69. Active in Gay Liberation from 1969 to present.
rhalfhillDOB -- September 20, 1940. Became active in civil rights and peace movements in 1962. Active in socialist and antiwar movements -- 1963-69. Active in Gay Liberation from 1969 to present.

YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS PRESUPPOSES WE ARE WRONG

I suppose Mr. Strait would also "hope" that the U.S. military has not only rehersed all conceivable scenarios but also rehersed them on the very day they also occurred in reality,  It must be too bad that we can't move the rehersals up to at least one day before they actually happened.  Then we could have prevented them.  Oh, if only, if only...

Your speculations or allegations about the psychology that supposedly explain the reasons we adhere to such wacky conspiracy theories presupposes that they are wacky and not true and suported by sound evidence.  You should examine and refute the evidence.  Otherwise, people might think you are simulating the pose of an Olympian, detached, learned, professonal psychologist or psychiatrist discoursing on the psychological dynamics leading to us adopting such allegedly far out and wacky positions in order to anger us and sow doubts among members of our movement.  But, again, maybe that IS what you are trying to do?

Robert Halfhill   rhalfhill@juno.com   RobertHalfhill@gmail.com  

by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 252 comments) on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 10:31:32 AM
 


Former Lawyer, current Business Consultant,history buff, Christian, father of 2 sons and a supporter of democratic government.
ArchieFormer Lawyer, current Business Consultant,history buff, Christian, father of 2 sons and a supporter of democratic government.

9/11

Over the years there has been a lot of talk about a shadow government, one that is not elected by the people. Maybe it's true and maybe they are responsible for that deadly attack. It just seems impossible that 19 nutcases could successfully carry out such a difficult and complex mission.

by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 817 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 3:02:32 PM
 


Kent State, Graduate work in philosophy of logic, of science, Ph.D. SIU neuroscientist, forensic neuropsychologist, PostDoc Medical College of Ohio, Preferred activities: Restoring British motorcycles, cars, Matchless, Austin Healey, Triumph, Jaguar, building an engine, programming a computer. Other stuff: SDS 1968, antiwar,911 truth advocate, anticorporatist, anti-classist, anti-neocon, pissed off. Best thing: Father. Blessed.
richardKent State, Graduate work in philosophy of logic, of science, Ph.D. SIU neuroscientist, forensic neuropsychologist, PostDoc Medical College of Ohio, Preferred activities: Restoring British motorcycles, cars, Matchless, Austin Healey, Triumph, Jaguar, building an engine, programming a computer. Other stuff: SDS 1968, antiwar,911 truth advocate, anticorporatist, anti-classist, anti-neocon, pissed off. Best thing: Father. Blessed.

I am not so loving

as wolfie (below)

 

Mr. M. Stated: "But once exposed everything in your life changes, for never again can one look at their government in the same way as before.”

 

Yes that is true. Never again and a government same way as before. In addition, never again can one look at someone who supports the official government story in the same way as before. Further, never again can one look at someone who is derisive towards critics of the government’s story in the same way as before.

 

This is particularly true and particularly the case with respect to the last example given the amount of information we now have re: known government programs that seek to infiltrate forums and discussion groups using individuals who seek to deride and commit ad hominem attacks against government critics. These disinformation artists are fairly easy to recognize these days although some are more subtle, others appear rather surprisingly juvenile and transparent. You will encounter both of these varieties as well as many others who occupy positions on the continuum between the extremes. All, only deserve disdain.

 

It should be noted that while there are some ‘innocents’, who, in their ignorance and their anger make comments resembling cointelpro/disinformation, these folks should now be counted as fairly rare and the exception to the rule. Honest discussion should forsake the name-calling and the bile. But when the intrusions are blatant, attention must be called to them.

by richard (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 650 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 4:40:26 PM
 


Erik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. Member of 911Truth.org Advisory Board. Opinions expressed here are my own. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

Recommended links:
9/11 Family Steering Committee Review of the 9/11 Commission Report

http://www.911truth.org/downloads/Family%20Steering%20Cmte%20review%20of%20Report.pdf

JusticeFor911.org Complaint and Petition
http://justicefor91...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Better World OrderErik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. Member of 911Truth.org Advisory Board. Opinions expressed here are my own. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

Recommended links:
9/11 Family Steering Committee Review of the 9/11 Commission Report

http://www.911truth.org/downloads/Family%20Steering%20Cmte%20review%20of%20Report.pdf

JusticeFor911.org Complaint and Petition
http://justicefor91...

to see more of bio, click on member name

it was complex

unless "Allah" truly was with them and removed all obstacles- 14 of the hijacker's VISA applications should've been denied on their face

Visas that Should Have Been Denied

4 others are still "classified", not sure what's up with the 19th-Michael Springmann, head of US consular office in Jeddah, said he was told to issue VISAs to "unqualified" applicants or it would affect his career

It's not clear that Al Qaeda has ever been entirely independent from the CIA; links have continually turned up in mainstream sources- also search cooperativeresearch.org (linked above)

Nafeez Ahmed - "Ties With Terror: The Continuity of Western-Al-Qaeda Relations in the Post-Cold War Period"

2 hijackers lived with an FBI informant and the FBI wouldn't let Congress interview the informant

Sources: Hijackers' ex-landlord was FBI informant

They got NORAD and the FAA to drop the ball on routine and frequently drilled procedures for scrambling and intercepting wayward aircraft- 4 times on 9/11

NORAD Standdown in 2 Minutes

And this is just scratching the surface

 9-11 Ommission Hearings chaired by Cynthia McKinney

 

 

by Better World Order (4 articles, 229 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 644 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 7:18:22 PM
 


DOB -- September 20, 1940. Became active in civil rights and peace movements in 1962. Active in socialist and antiwar movements -- 1963-69. Active in Gay Liberation from 1969 to present.
rhalfhillDOB -- September 20, 1940. Became active in civil rights and peace movements in 1962. Active in socialist and antiwar movements -- 1963-69. Active in Gay Liberation from 1969 to present.

AND ALSO NO PROBLEM IN PENETRATING U.S. AIR DEFENSE

And I suppose you would also argue that it is not "pure, evil genious" that is required to explain how these "19 nut cases" were able to penetrate the most well defended air space on the planet, to penetrate it despite the fact that the civilian air traffic control system is able to detect imediately a plane going off its assigned course and that they are supposed to report this deviation to the military within minutes, and that one of the planes they hijacked was able to reach the Pentagon in spite of the automatic defenses that are supposed to destroy any attacking plane or missile.

Robert Halfhill   rhalfhill@juno.com   RobertHalfhill@gmail.com

by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 252 comments) on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 10:49:34 AM
 


I have no sense of humor. This is why I can read opednews. Focus_Element" width="100%" height="250" valign="top">    
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to mr strait, or is that crooked of reason

we are not in your state of disillusionment any more. you are not evil. we love you for being what you are.

we are other. we are evolved. we are conscious. we are sad that you can not see the light.

we are straight whereas you are seeing refracted light through a prism of a fun house mirrored world.

be good to all you care about. be love and light.

wolfie, who knows what he perceives.

by Wolfie (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 898 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 4:23:29 PM
 


Ed Encho is a free lance writer, activist and consultant who resides in West Central Florida.  
Ed EnchoEd Encho is a free lance writer, activist and consultant who resides in West Central Florida.  

The Big Lie of 9/11

Great posting. There needs to be a legitimate investigation on the events of 9/11 if for no other reason than to restore some bit of faith in what has become increasingly apparent a government that has been hijacked by criminals.

I don't know what happened that day, I have seen a lot of theories some of which have a lot of merit and others that are obvious disinformation but the one story that I will NEVER believe is the official government version.

Keep up the good work

EE

by Ed Encho (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 333 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 4:55:21 PM
 


Just a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Tom MurphyJust a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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It didn't happen but you ARE a truther

The article, for all its passion and conviction, is a textbook case of the psychology behind conspiracy theories. While I suspect most Truthers aren't interested in this psychology, the thought processes are interesting. In a nutshell, the conspiracy is the means by which the mind tries to explain or reconcile the fear and uncertainty created by seemingly small causes that have huge impacts. And interestingly enough with conspiracies, the bigger the impact, the bigger the conspiracy – and 9/11 was one of the biggest - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1561199.stm .

On September 24, 2001, Professor Cary Cooper, a psychologist at the University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology, predicted that, "...[I]n the weeks ahead, US terror attack theories will expand and become attributed to an ever larger group of culprits." And what was the reason for this expansion? "We simply can't believe a small number of people could be behind it," suggests Professor Cooper.

Does Mr. Lopez's article corroborate this thinking? Oh, yeah! Here's what he says:

"Here finally was the testimony I both sought and dreaded, confirming, in many cases, my first instincts on hearing the news on that terrible day. Amateur pilots flew these planes HOW FAR and threaded needles in a haystack? That pilot did a steep HOW MANY degree dive to hit the Pentagon? Everyone who has seen a demolition on TV is to believe that these were NOT demolitions, buildings falling at free-fall speed into their own footprint?"

Mr. Lopez cannot fathom that something relatively small (well, in comparison to the collapses of three WTC towers) like four amateur pilots with poor to moderate flying skills – could snuff the lives of 3,000 people. So... he took his suspicion and searched...and searched... and finally found – "the experts". And Mr. Lopez magnanimously states, "But I'm no expert on much of anything. I leave it to the people who make this stuff their study 8 hours a day, year after year, and have the degrees to show for it."

Right... right. "It was happening to me. Reading all that two and four-star brass saying it looked like a conspiracy put me face-to-face with it." He's not an expert, so Mr. Lopez leaves it up to "others" to decide for him...? Mr. Lopez doesn't seem that naïve to me.

Okay, so here we have the reason why people want to believe in a conspiracy and a ready example of that belief. The next question to ask is what do they do with this belief? Well, they "force" themselves to enter the rabbit hole and find that it's quite deep. The interesting point with this spelunking expedition is that the more they research or go deeper, the more the conspiracy theorist finds more reasonable the "supporting" circumstantial evidence in lieu of the manufactured or fabricated evidence forwarded by the... the perpetrators (aka U.S. government).

In February 2007, Dr. Patrick Leman, a psychologist at the Royal Holloway University of London, postulated that, "...[I]f someone is adamant that the moon landings were faked they will insist that there is clear evidence of this in NASA pictures - why is the flag fluttering when here is no wind on the moon? They will ignore alterative explanations that do not support a conspiracy theory - for example in a vacuum, there is no friction so it takes longer for a flag to roll up. So if we accept a conspiracy theory to be true we are more likely to accept explanations that are consistent with a conspiracy and less likely to accept evidence that runs against a conspiracy account," - click here .

I wonder if Mr. Lopez displays such thinking? Yuppers, he does! "The men who perpetrated 9/11 are men with sick hearts. Indictments should be confined to the intellectual authors of such deeds, the civilian leadership, and those who incited others to treason." Mr. Lopez has already judged and sentenced the guilty and has no need of a court – just a commission to... forgive. No alternate explanation could possibly exist to refute the belief that big, big evil is afoot.

You know, what I think is more freaky is how well Mr. Lopez and his article confirms the psychology behind conspiracies.

by Tom Murphy (2 articles, 3 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 1280 comments) on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 9:55:53 PM
 


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VierotchkaI'm an artist, a thinker, a wife, a mother, and a grandmother.

Sigh...

So asking legitimate questions about vast inconsistencies, mistakes and ommissions in the 9/11 Report is a textbook case of the psychology behind conspiracy theories? So, in order to be "normal" according to you is to swallow what the government proffers hook, line and sinker, and be a good little mindless, unthinking and obedient robot?

How much is the Pentagon paying you to write such trite? 

Yes, you've been found out.

click here

by Vierotchka (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 36 comments) on Saturday, April 5, 2008 at 10:47:53 PM
 


Just a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Tom MurphyJust a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Gasp!

You've found me out - again!  This is perhaps the 12th time now that I have been accused of acting in this capacity.  Get in line, there are a number ahead of you. 

Go ahead and question all you want.  It's not the questions that are wrong but the manner in which they are used and processed that makes one a Truther in line with the conspiracy psychology.

Then again, what do I know - I'm reading from a script.

by Tom Murphy (2 articles, 3 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 1280 comments) on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 7:05:50 PM