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August 30, 2007 at 06:58:03

Re-Confirmation, That Neo-cons Ignored Israeli Warning Not to Attack Iraq, Back In 2001!

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Re-Confirmation, That Neo-cons Ignored Israeli Warning Not to Attack Iraq, Back In 2001!

We all know that the decision to invade Iraq was made before George W. Bush ever took office, but what many of us may not have known was that once in office and having made its plans somewhat public to a few allies, Israeli officials cautioned the Bush administration not to invade Iraq because such an invasion would destabilize the entire region. Instead, Israel suggested that the United States invade Iran, this from Lawrence Wilkerson, former administration official.


Neo-cons Had Made Decision To Attack Iraq Back In 1996!

Lawrence Wilkerson was former chief of staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell, up from being a member of the State Department's Policy Planning Staff. In an interview with IPS Wilkerson said that the Israeli reaction to news that the Bushites wanted to attack Iraq was an immediate rejection of such an idea. "The Israelis were telling us Iraq is not the enemy - Iran is the enemy." Wilkerson said that the Israeli reaction to invading Iraq in early 2002, was, "If you are going to destabilize the balance of power, do it against the main enemy."

Wilkerson said that Israeli warnings against invading of Iraq were "pervasive." A far ranging, unanimous feeling, and outspoken suggestions were that Invasion of Iraq was not a very good idea, to say the least. This sentiment came from Israeli intelligence reports, Israeli politicians, and friends living in Israel.
Wilkerson said that the Israeli's tried to impress upon the Bushites that it was not advocating an immediate invasion of Iran either, but was saying that the United States, should focus on Iran and "...should not be distracted by Iraq and Saddam Hussein."




The Israeli advice against using military force against Iraq was apparently triggered by reports reaching Israeli officials in December 2001 that the Bush administration had begun designs for attacking Iraq. In Bob Woodward's Book, Plan of Attack, he revealed that on Dec. 1, 2001, the Central Command chief General Tommy Franks was ordered to create the initial formal briefing for attacking Iraq, by then, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. From that point forward, Rumsfeld and Franks began seriously discussing options for a war against Iraq.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, upon first hearing of the idea of attacking Iraq, immediately requested a meeting with the President on the subject. Sharon's plan was to attempt to talk Bush out of such a plan. Moreover, for weeks before the Sharon/Bush meeting a variety of Israeli leaders hammered away at the Bushites that Iran should be the target of choice if there must be war, because they were the greater threat to Israel and the entire region. In fact, the day before the Sharon/Bush meeting, the Washington Post published the Israeli message. "Today, everybody is busy with Iraq. Iraq is a problem...But you should understand, if you ask me, today Iran is more dangerous than Iraq," the Washington Post reported that the primary quote came from Israeli Defense Minister Fouad Ben-Eliezer, who was in Washington along with Sharon for that meeting.

Sharon Yossi Alpher, a former adviser to Prime Minister Ehud Barak, reported in the Jewish American publication, The Forward in New York City, in January, that Sharon warned Bush not to occupy Iraq. Alpher said in his article in The Forward, that Sharon told Bush, in their February 7th meeting, that Israel wouldn't "push one way or another" concerning the Bush desire to attack and defeat Saddam Hussein. Sharon never really reported the exact words that were exchanged at the meeting and the information allegedly came from a substantial witness.

Washington, Alpher, said did not want Israel to publicly support the attack and asked that they refrain from doing so and in that way perhaps the USA would have some support of an invasion of Iraq from at least some of Iraq's Arab neighbours.

The only exception, to Sharon's vow of silence on the direction of that meeting came from Ranaan Gissin, an aide to Sharon, on Aug. 16, 2002 when he said; "Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose. It will only give [Hussein] more of an opportunity to accelerate his programme of weapons of mass destruction."

In October 2002, the Israeli's were still unhappy about the Bushites seeming unswerving focus on Iraq. It appeared that that the Bush people were inordinately obsessed with the idea of making Iraq a distant outpost of the USA, a permanent possession like Puerto Rico-a gas pumping American Presence in the Middle East.

The Israeli Chief of Military Intelligence and the Defense Forces' Chief of Staff publicly pooh-poohed the Bushites' claim that Saddam Hussein's was seeking WMD's for an attack on either Israel and/or the US. Both men said that Israel was militarily dominant over Iraq since the Gulf War.

Maj. Gen. Aharon Farkash, Israeli Chief of Military Intelligence, said in an interview to Israeli television, that Iraq had no missiles that could reach Israel directly and opposed the Bushite claim that Iraq was on the brink of obtaining nuclear weapons. He said army intelligence had concluded that Iraq was at least four or more years from such acquisitions and said that Iran was as much of a nuclear threat as Iraq.

In 1996, Richard Perle developed for the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, a task force report directly aimed at the Likud Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, which established the eventual disaster with which we are now faced. However, the Israeli's were convinced that destroying the Hussein regime would distort the Iran-Iraq standoff, which swayed more in Iran's favor after the 1991 Gulf War. However, since the mid-1990's, Israeli Neo-cons were arguing that the U.S. and Israeli should reduce the power and aggressiveness of Anti-Israeli/U.S., Middle eastern, nations and that attacking Iraq, replacing Saddam with a regime friendly to Israel and then moving against Iran would make the middle-east safe for democracies, an obvious canard or massively stupid mistake.

Nevertheless, the Israeli government and the Likud Party - as well as Sharon, were not of the same opinion as Perle. This despite the fact that NEO-CONS and Israeli officials agreed on a variety of other issues, Israeli strategic opinion on the issue of invading Iraq was not favorable. The US Neo-cons were hearing a different sound and it seemed to be emanating from Hell, rather than Heaven.

Israel believed that the duo of Iraq and Iran, though not even close to each other politically, together, posed a far greater threat than either one, singly but given a choice they would rather see was more concern with Iran Bushite Neo-cons, however, in their haste to turn back the clock to the era between 1918 and 1929, wanted regime change in Iraq, believing it to be a romp in the park and a quickie picnic lunch. Well what can you expect from simpletons who believe that Jesus is against abortion but favors blowing over one million people to smithereens, killing criminals for stealing comic books and bubble gum, and saving babies from abortion (and I agree with that), but then abandoning them and blocking healthcare for them (and I do not agree with that). Maybe someone ought to check and see if the Bushites, as a group have bought heavily into shares for child funeral companies.
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A liberal American, PhD mathematician, bipedal Earthling.
W. Christopher Epler (Bill)A liberal American, PhD mathematician, bipedal Earthling.

hammer, hammer, hammer

Excellent, and as always piece bristling with facts.  This theme must be HAMMERED AND HAMMERED AND HAMMERED.  If we don't get the full truth about about 9/11 (i.e., that it was treasonosly allowed!), American will never regain its soul.  EVERYTHING evil that's happened during the last 7 years goes back to this ultimate lie. Mountains of pictures, scientific evidence, observers on he scence, etc., etc. etc. all point to a Bush/Cheney/Republican fascilitation of 9/11.

by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (201 articles, 44 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 436 comments) on Thursday, August 30, 2007 at 9:22:49 AM
 


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Professor Emeritus Peter BagnoloProfessor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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yes, thanks, and...

They are posied to do it again. They are also poised to depopulate America, their fiendish idea to trim th population down to those with at least $100,000,000 and are Neo-cons, then steal the lamd and wealth of our nation and its people. Iraq was a laboratory for this insanity, but we are larger and stronger.

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 94 diaries, 1201 comments) on Thursday, August 30, 2007 at 10:02:06 AM
 


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this corresponds

to what Justin Raimondo in www.antiwar.com  says all along. We here in the progressive camp must cooperate with them in the true conservative camp to weed the neocons out. It is historically sane. Insanity of the neocons is in their parasitism- they just work for themselves. We need to  take them as  the ticks they are.

by Mark Sashine (44 articles, 19 quicklinks, 228 diaries, 3254 comments) on Thursday, August 30, 2007 at 3:14:52 PM
 


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Iraq and Iran

When Bush was campaigning in Dearborn MI in 2000 , before he stole the election,he told the editor of the Arab American, Silbani, that he was going to get Hussien.   This can be sourced on Amy Goodmans show "Democracy Now".   Why does nobody discuss the fact that is was the Israelis who provided the Iranians with the blueprints for building an atomic bomb back about 1972?

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Israeli's provided Iran with Bomb?

Well, I know why I haven't mentioned it, because I was unaware of it. I cannot, in good faith write about something of which I have not verifiable evidence and I need more than someone writing and saying it is so. This is an open forum on OpEdNews, which one seldom sees where experienced writers converse with thjose who write letters to them publicly.  So, I invite you, if you have some evidence that this is not merely heresay, to write about it yourself on OpEdNews. You are perfectly free to do so, so go to it, if you have something we do not, write about it! It may be a scoop!

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 94 diaries, 1201 comments) on Thursday, August 30, 2007 at 3:47:39 PM
 


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Thanks Professor

Hi Professor,
Great investigative article.  I remember back in late 2002, I was watching the national news, which I now avoid, and I saw a clip of Prime Minster Sharon stating that he did not want the US to attack Iraq because it might effect the safety of Israel and the region.  Just a short clip, no commentary or any follow up on it by the news organization.  So great information, Professor!
Thanks,
Larry

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