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February 8, 2008 at 08:33:12

Headlined on 2/8/08:
Is Dennis Kucinich Getting McKinney'd

by Kevin Zeese     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Former Presidential Candidate Who Advocated Peace and Impeachment Facing Well-Financed Challenge at Home 

On the Hill some call it being McKinney’d – the treatment Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney received when she was in Congress.  Twice, rather than protecting the incumbent, the Democrats put up well funded challengers against her.  Now, it looks like Dennis Kucinich may be facing the same treatment in Cleveland. 

There is a report circulating the web that before the Nevada primary Kucinich was visited by representatives of Nancy Pelosi and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the right wing Israeli lobby. They told him that if he would drop his campaigns to impeach Cheney and Bush, they would guarantee his re-election to the House of Representatives.  Kucinich threw them out of his office.  See, http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/02/371899.shtml 

Kucinich has aggressively challenged the Democratic Party leadership in Congress and on the presidential campaign trail on the issues of war, civil liberties, impeachment and big business control of government.  He’s even refused to pledge to endorse the party’s presidential nominee.  

The Democratic leadership has insisted that impeachment was off the table since taking control of the House in 2006.  Congressman Conyers, Chair of the Judiciary Committee, has even refused to investigate whether President Bush and Vice President Cheney have violated the law.  But Kucinich pushed the issue.  He introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney, then against Bush and he brought the issue up on the House floor.  He pushed and pushed to try to make sure the president and vice president were not above the law. 

On the campaign trail he didn’t let Senator Clinton or Obama get away with campaign peace rhetoric in the Democratic primary while they voted war funding with no strings attached in the senate.  He pointed out that their rhetoric was not consistent with their actions.  He pushed the issue of all troops being removed; while Obama and Clinton parse their words carefully making it clear they will withdraw only some of the troops and neither promising a complete troop withdrawal even by 2012.   

And he pierced the veil of campaign rhetoric of Democrats who call for “universal health care” but put forward plans that will enrich their donors in the private health insurance industry.   

On issue after issue Kucinich pushed against the Democratic Party leadership – now, it seems he is paying a price. 

In Cleveland, Kucinich is being challenged by several candidates. The one that is getting the most attention and funding is City Councilman Joe Cimperman. He’s served on the council for ten years and has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from real estate interests to challenge Kucinich.  He’s been saying that Kucinich focuses too much on campaigning for president and not on the district.  The Mayor of Cleveland and the Cleveland Plain Dealer has endorsed Cimperman.  

Kucinich, who has been focused on the presidential campaign, has very little money in the bank (reportedly only about $30,000).  He’s been putting out fundraising appeals (see, e.g., http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehCxhHPXQ8) and has a fundraiser planned with Sean Penn.

Back home the issue of right wing Israeli lobby funding is becoming an issue.  Cimperman put out a press release that urges Kucinich to refute a report in the People’s Weekly World Newspaper that said
the “Kucinich campaign charged” that Cimperman’s effort to unseat Kucinich was financed in large part from “a right-wing pro-Israel group.”   

Cimperman has been somewhat theatrical in his campaign.  He’s been putting up signs “Where’s Dennis?” and describing him as a “Missing Congressman.”  Cimperman took the poster to Kucinch’s office and delivered a copy on videotape.  See http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pd-8nwj7GWY.  Kucinich responded by asking Homeland Security to investigate the filming of government property.  Cimperman responded with another video calling Kucinch a hypocrite for violating his privacy while railing against government intrusion into people’s lives. See http://youtube.com/watch?v=lJsC99FDdeQ&feature=user 

No doubt if Kucinch had kow-towed to Nancy Pelosi, been less aggressive in his comments in the presidential debates and agreed to endorse the Democratic presidential nominee, the Democratic Party would be discouraging opponents and coming to the aid of an incumbent who has been in the House since 1996. 

But elected officials like McKinney and Kucinch who challenge the Democratic Party line – who think for themselves and feel a responsibility to fight for their constituents and challenge corporate power – are a hindrance to the party leadership.  They get in the way and let the public know what is really going on.  So, they must be either tamed or made an example of. 

If Kucinich gets McKinney’d you can be sure the message will be received. Those, like Congressman Conyers, who’ve been around for awhile (Conyers has been in the House since 1965) know better than to step too far out of line.  So, Conyers has remained silent on Bush’s law breaking – protecting his committee chairmanship by being afraid to use it. Conyers has been tamed but Kucinich hasn’t. So, Kucinich needs to be taught a lesson that other members will learn from.  The growing revolt of the “Out of Iraq Caucus” needs to be kept impotent.  Knocking out Kucinich will prevent others from too loudly disobeying leadership. 

Kucinich has faced tough battles in Cleveland before.  When he was mayor he stood up to corporate interests that wanted to take over Cleveland’s public utility and survived a recall election.  And, Cimperman is not the only challenger, there are several, so the anti-Kucinich vote may be sufficiently divided for the congressman to retain his seat. 

If he doesn’t Kucinich may find new political opportunities that give him a bigger platform.  Perhaps he will leave the Democratic Party with whom he has had so much disagreement and join Cynthia McKinney in the Green Party (see http://www.runcynthiarun.org/) – a party whose platform is consistent with his.  If so a McKinney-Kucinich ticket could be an interesting development in the 2008 election year. The Democrats may regret their punishment of both McKinney and Kucinich.

 

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Perhaps it will be for the better

It's wonderful to have Dennis in congress, but who knows, if he, for example, started a foundation, what kinds of great things he could accomplish. He's a very smart man who, I am sure, if he loses his house seat, will land on his feet and come out ready to do more significant work. I hope he can keep his seat, but I'm 100% certain we won't lose him as a strong activist and advocate if he leaves congress.

by Rob Kall (691 articles, 3697 quicklinks, 290 diaries, 1358 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 8:44:29 AM
 


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DK is no Democrat

by today's National Democrat Party standards - and good for him. I agree it may bode well for We the People if Dennis Kucinich left his totally corrupted party. 

The grassroots revolution is on, and we need all the able leaders we can find.  Next, let's yank Ron Paul into grassroots leadership.  He certainly is no Republican based on today's Republican standards.

If I had a vote that actually counted, in an electoral system that was actually fair, I'd put Cynthia McKinney down for President and bring DK, RP and Naomi Klein into her cabinet.

by Rady Ananda (56 articles, 166 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 387 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 12:50:05 PM
 


Kevin Zeese is Executive Director of VotersForPeace.US. and TrueVoteMD.org.
Kevin ZeeseKevin Zeese is Executive Director of VotersForPeace.US. and TrueVoteMD.org.

Yes Kucinich will be an activist if he is defeated but . .

Yes, Dennis will continue to fight for peace and justice if he is defeated in his re-election bid but that is not the point.  The point is that the Democratic Party destroys those -- or attempts to destroy those -- who push too hard for peace and justice.  When they McKinny'd McKinney (twice) and now go after Kucinich it is a message to the progressive wing of the party -- don't pust to hard against corporate-government or you will be removed from the corporate-government.  It is not a good message for politics in America.

Where would the impeachment movement be without Kucinich in office?  Who will progressives go to as a reliable advocate inside the government? And won't those progressives who remain behind be weakened by the McKinneying of Kucinich?

by Kevin Zeese (62 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 35 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 9:41:20 AM
 


Kevin Zeese is Executive Director of VotersForPeace.US. and TrueVoteMD.org.
Kevin ZeeseKevin Zeese is Executive Director of VotersForPeace.US. and TrueVoteMD.org.

How to respond to the Dems

The best response is to say -- you are the media and you will report.  You will report the truth -- their top two candidates have empowered Bush on the war, they've empowered banks and finance on bankruptcy, they've undermined civil liberties with the Patriot Act and approving NSA spying.  You will report the truth about how Dennis Kucinch is treated, how the Out of Iraq Caucus is ignored.  And, you will let the public know they have more choices than just the Dems and Repubs.

You cannot be captured by either political party but must remain independent.  When they do good -- report it; when they do bad -- report that as well.

Do not let the Democratic Party capture you or you will not be independent media any longer, you will be an arm of the Democratic Party.

 KZ

by Kevin Zeese (62 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 35 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 10:26:29 AM
 


About the author: welshTerrier2 believes all citizens must focus on restoring power to the people. Corporations control our agenda. They promote war. They export our jobs to the lowest bidder. They pollute our air and water. They promote laws to benefit their greedy shareholders at our expense. They control the puppet politicians through their campaign contributions. They control the mainstream media.

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welshTerrier2About the author: welshTerrier2 believes all citizens must focus on restoring power to the people. Corporations control our agenda. They promote war. They export our jobs to the lowest bidder. They pollute our air and water. They promote laws to benefit their greedy shareholders at our expense. They control the puppet politicians through their campaign contributions. They control the mainstream media.

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A Summit Meeting?

Summit meetings imply an exchange of ideas for the purpose of finding common ground.  The Democrats were not proposing a summit meeting. They were asking for a meeting so they could "sell their products" to a hostile segment of the media.

Was the Democratic Party planning to make any concessions to progressives at this summit? Of course not.

Was the Democratic Party going to allow real progressive journalists to question their presidential candidates during a televised debate? Of course not.

Was the Democratic Party going to acknowledge they are doing all they can to block the emergence of third parties? Of course not.

Was the Democratic Party going to admit they shouldn't have held public debates unless all "ballot qualified" candidates, e.g. Kucinich, had an opportunity to participate? Of course not.

Was the Democratic Party going to admit we cannot afford both guns and butter and that they refuse to put any limits whatsoever on "defense" spending?  Of course not. 

There is no "summit meeting." The Democratic Party has no intention of catering to progressives. They want our money; they want our votes; they want us to shut the hell up.

Just like the corporations that fund them, the Democratic Party seeks to profit at the expense of the American people. 

by welshTerrier2 (7 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 96 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 11:39:55 AM
 


Ernest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.
ErnestErnest is not a professional writer. Nor well educated in political affairs. However, he has uniquely experienced life styles of those who have little.

We must let them know 100%..............

we will continue to use all of our might and resources to fight and "Take Back America"...............if we get another Bushco....we immediately push for Impeachment again..............sooner or later the dam will break...........

The people cannot take this sh*t forever...........I figure when gasoline hits about 6 to 8 dollars a gallon and believe me, believe me that will happen just as soon as the election is over................even the worst couch potato will be about ready to lynch them all.................... 

 

by Ernest (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 110 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 9:36:20 AM
 


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Summit Meeting Call

Rob:

    Go and let the Democrats know exactly the degree of irritation there is out here.  Meanwhile, loosing Kucinich from Congress is not an option in my book.  I really don't care who controls Congress, so long as the actual people in Congress are people of sound moral character and who understand what their job is.  We don't need a Congress with fewer Kucinich's, we need a Congress with more like him.  At least he stands up for his principles (and actually has some) and believes in the rule of law.  What is it we get from Nancy Pelosi or John Conyer's, political rhetoric and double speak.  We don't need that and we don't need people like them in Congress.  Until that message is received load and clear by Dems that We The People want our government back and we are willing to fight, donate and speak up to achieve that end, we are going to get more like Pelosi and Conyers, not fewer like them and lose the real principled individuals like Kucinich when we need them most.

by Peter Wedlund (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 98 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 12:41:04 PM
 


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"McKinney'd"

I'm glad for this article. I knew there was more than met the eye for Dennis's departure. I am still bewildered as to WHY he threw his support to Obama and not Edwards even though he gave a reason, the reason makes little sense the more I read and educate myself on Obama.

I just posted on a thread the other day that I was voting for Cynthia and when ppl asked me who I was voting for, I said the Green Party. Kucinich SHOULD join her and THEN ppl like me and other Liberals (and Conservatives) that don't agree or are aware of this Government tyranny evolving, will have a place to go to vote their conscience.

Dennis and Cynthia would make a great ticket. I am even considering registering another Party. I am currently registered democrat; however, I can't even condone the policies of Pelosi, Hoyer and most of the DLC. The Democrat sheeple are almost as bad as the Republican sheeple. Both offer nothing but rhetoric, procrastination, more Gov surveillance, less freedom of protest, bigger military spending, no real healthcare plan--more rhetoric--and more constitutioanl violation. Both parties pale in the truth of the RULE OF LAW and rarely abide by it. Dennis, on the other hand, never wavered from his course for his candidacy. He never changed his philosophies when the media found out what the ppl REALLY wanted and then waved to that side. It has been like a meter on Corpstream media except the Corpstreams make certain the constitution and Liberties are never brought up.

Israel is not a Democratic Government. Spying is their trademark. I guess those of us that support Dennis and or Cynthia must be a threat to them as well. For those that want to read up on the Khasars (Russian immigrant Germany Jews--Israeli Gov), go to Benjamin Freedman's speech at the Willard Hotel, 196?. It will enlighten you to the difference between our Jewish friends and the ones running the state of Israel.

Nancy, Nancy,Nancy, how low can you stoop? I guess you showed us now, didn't you? Bullying an "honest" congressman, priceless.

I certainly hope to help online campaign for the Green party. I put forth all this energy signing petitions online. Possibly putting forth that energy towards the Green Party can move it upward.

I'll think about your question posed, Mr. Kall. I agree, we need to get up, stand up and take our country back. It's getting brutal out there...

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 154 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 12:00:57 PM
 


Anti-war activist, mother of U.S. Marine currently returned from Fallujah; member of Steering Committee for the "World Can't Wait, Drive Out the Bush Regime" and Military Families Speak Out.
Elaine BrowerAnti-war activist, mother of U.S. Marine currently returned from Fallujah; member of Steering Committee for the "World Can't Wait, Drive Out the Bush Regime" and Military Families Speak Out.

Read my last article for an answer to motivating the Dems

I wrote an article about this.  The dems will not be listening to us unless we make our demands very public.  Not behind closed door meetings with a select few.  http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_elaine_b_080206_don_t_get_caught_by_.htm

My article may not be as eloquent as some of the other writers, but the point is clear.  Tim Carpenter stated that we must step off the sidelines and demand that the democratic candidate for president pay attention to the peace and justice movement.  The only way that can happen if we make it happen.  Not just be a few, but by many, many people being involved in meetings and discussions openly so that we set the terms of the debates, not them.

 

by Elaine Brower (15 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 15 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 12:28:30 PM
 





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Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He also has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin is also a student activist that believes in questioning the way America's systems work...

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How about holding protests outside of recruitment centers?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_kevin_go_080208_stand_in_solidarity_.htm

Or anywhere else deemed to be fit for opposing this illegal war. Any conversation on this illegal war and then torture will lead to calling for impeachment. When the people are out on the streets angry and demanding impeachment, we will get what we want.

If business as usual cannot go on, we will triumph.  

by Kevin Gosztola (147 articles, 33 quicklinks, 59 diaries, 622 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 2:59:37 PM
 


I am a college graduate, a loyal partiot of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, a person whose convictions and pessimism drive my thought invoking others to think, and enjoy some politcal debate. I like truth even if it doesn't set you "free" in this US of A any longer. I do a bit of painting mostly in Acrylic. I do a bit of poetry writng mostly inspired by tragic thought. I do a ton of reading, mostly online. I am crippled, a female and AOL monitors my emails closely. I speak straightforwardly...

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shirley reeseI am a college graduate, a loyal partiot of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, a person whose convictions and pessimism drive my thought invoking others to think, and enjoy some politcal debate. I like truth even if it doesn't set you "free" in this US of A any longer. I do a bit of painting mostly in Acrylic. I do a bit of poetry writng mostly inspired by tragic thought. I do a ton of reading, mostly online. I am crippled, a female and AOL monitors my emails closely. I speak straightforwardly...

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McKinney's take two

I can't help but come back to this article. It's not like I didn't know there was corruption in DC and congress and the Executive, I did. However, this report on Dennis and the "applied pressure" from AIPAC and Nancy, says more than just repressing him. They said they "could guarantee him the congressional win" if he dropped the Impeachment talk. If they can guarantee "wins", then they can certainly guarantee "losses" and if they can just guarantee!, then our voting system is certainly corrupt, no ends and butts. That's proof right there.

The Presidency must be  already decided most likely. Your vote is just a wave in the air. Democracy and the 15th Amendment is about as worthy as a penny thrown in a wishing well.

One thing, can the ppl of California EVEN vote her out? Or can she just
"guarantee" her own win?

Now I know why they had to put that UFO thing in the debate. They will make Dennis out to be a whacko and, if ever, he can expose their hell bent bribery threat, it will be passed off as though he were just a crazy man. Not to hard to figga these fools out.

What to do. Corpstream media isn't going to pass this info on. I hope Mr. Kall that you can get other online media sources to print this. Where is DemocracyNow, and Bill Moyer?

This is hot stuff. This makes Agnews bribery look micro. Bruce Fein(a conservative Republican) that actually wrote the CLinton impeachment articles had an Impeachment wagon going. Guess they squashed his pursuit? His site is dormant, last time I checked. (American Freedom Agenda). Bush named something almost exactly like it, probably to detour ppl from Mr Fein's site.

I doubt they are done with Dennis yet. He has more on them NOW, then he did with just impeachment legislation.

I'm surprised your site is still up!. I'm sorry that I am so pessimistic and untrusting of this Government. I would love to have it the other way.

As far as that summit, don't trust them on that meeting either. They meant no good. Now, if we can just apply some of that Pelosi pressure and find out when Bush is declaring Martial Law. I'm almost sure they have a date for that.

Back up all your files Mr. Kall.  I urge ppl to Push your states to do as mine did, and ask your State Bar Association to make a resolution declaring "Restoration of the Rule of Law". It's a start.

Soon we will see the true patriots and the psuedo patriots of this country revealed.

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 154 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 2:59:59 PM
 


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McKinnying Kucinich and the Progressive Voice

As a strong supporter for Kucinich based on his stance on ending the war, single payer not for profit health care, and ending free trade agreements, I want to see him remain in Congress now, since progressive voices in the Congress are few and far between.  We cannot afford to lose another voice to the corporate oligarchy.  I believe the Democrats will continue to march towards the right while calling themselves liberal,  but their voting records show the truth.  You can't spin voting for funding an illegal war of agression in Iraq and call yourself a peace candidate and a party of peace.  It's time for progressives to abandon the democrats as another part of the corporate government which thrives on war, for profit health care, and business favoring free trade agreements.  The working families need to wake and understand  that our voices are not being taken seriously by the DLC controlled Democratic Party.  I will continue to fight the party on the grassroots level to become a voice for working families instead of the big money corporate players throwing money at their campaigns.

by Dave Peter (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 19 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 3:17:04 PM
 


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Dismayed!

Iam dismayed after reading the 14 comments posted before me. When are you going to quit ranting and get yourselves elected or appointed democratic precinct committeepersons. That's how you take over a party. Have you learned nothing from the Republicans over the last 30 years? It can be done, so do it. Yes, it will take a while, but almost everything that's worth anything does take time. Even those who are my age, 73 can get it done by mentoring someone in their 20s or 30s. I know, its easier to go to sleep. Fine, do it and wake up to find yourselfe in a nightmare.

by Kenneth Briggs (103 articles, 88 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 99 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 4:48:57 PM
 


Dbkchi is a 47 year old professional commuter and activist in Los Angeles California. When not stuck in traffic, he enjoys live music, beach volleyball and snow skiing.
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I'd love to...

corporate america still has me chained to a desk at 7pm on a Friday night.

My conscience would be clearer if I could retire and become an activist.  For now, I can only thank you, and give you my word that if I make it to retirement, I will follow your lead.

We owe a debt of graditude to all true patriots like you.

Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!

by Digitboy (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 15 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 8:56:55 PM
 


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Steven LeserSteven Leser specializes in Politics, Science & Health, and Entertainment topics. He has held positions within the Democratic Party including District Chair and Public Relations Chair within county organizations.

Steven Leser writes for www.opednews.com, an internet only media site that has grown to become one of the highest traffic news sites in America, reaching more traffic, according to alexa.com, than all but the thirty largest daily newspapers in the US. Mr. Leser is one of t...

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Yes, I did that myself a few years ago in Florida...

... I even ran for the chair of the county party and got quite a few votes. I became a District chair and all that which you see in my bio.

Progressives, if they have the numbers, and a lot fewer numbers are necessary than you might think, could take over the DNC in as little as two to four years. First step is to take over a majority of the county DECs in a majority of the states. Once you do that , the hard part is over. The county DECs choose the people who vote at the state level, and then the state folks choose their representatives to the DNC who vote on things at that level.

If you do this concurrently with a good PR campaign to sell progressive values to the nation, you have really done the right thing from both ends.

by Steven Leser (178 articles, 29 quicklinks, 30 diaries, 1195 comments) on Saturday, February 9, 2008 at 3:40:00 AM
 


Bill Willers is emeritus professor of biology, University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh now living in Middleton, WI. He is founder of Superior Wilderness Action Network (SWAN) and editor of Learning to Listen to the Land and Unmanaged Landscapes, both from Island Press.
Bill WillersBill Willers is emeritus professor of biology, University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh now living in Middleton, WI. He is founder of Superior Wilderness Action Network (SWAN) and editor of Learning to Listen to the Land and Unmanaged Landscapes, both from Island Press.

"Working with" the Dem Party?

Such power structures as the Dem Party that has trashed McKinney and Kucinich ignore grassroots efforts .... until a grassroots effort shows clout that can no longer be ignored. Then comes the friendly overture, in this case a "summit". Pardon the cynicism of an old timer who, as an environmentalist, has seen such overtures at state and regional level since the 60s. "Working with" means conditions and concessions. There is a real threat to the "free market" Dem Party in the form of the rage out in the land, and they want to bond with it so as to neutralize any danger to their interests.

A Pelosi-AIPAC attempt to squelch K's impeachment effort. How absolutely classic. I didn't know whether to laugh or punch the wall.

How to respond? In poker, you don't show your hand. Let them talk, you listen. Then walk away and say you'll think about it. And let us all know what they said.

by Bill Willers (7 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 34 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 5:29:22 PM
 


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What do we tell the Democratic Party?

Tell them that if they want to be the Republican Lite Party, if they want to silence and cast off their elected progressive representatives and candidates, if they want to ignore the outrage of their progressive base crying out for justice- tell them Goodbye!

The Green Party platform embraces Kucinich's plans for the country while the Democratic Party would not field FDR or JFK in 2008. Why waste another minute or dollar on them? They have already had their "summit" with us and shoved us off the cliff.

Perhaps things have to get worse before they can get better. If the Progressives march out to join the Greens and the Democrats lose, the mayhem that will ensue may be just enough to wake the sleeping masses who will realize they have been duped by both parties.

What are we giving up by leaving the Democrats anyway? Like Dennis is so fond of saying-"That which is crooked cannot be made straight"

by Vinny Colletti (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 7:11:44 PM