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May 8, 2008 at 08:25:39

Headlined on 5/8/08:
Keeping Vets from Voting

by Brad Friedman (Posted by martinweiss)     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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BLOGGED BY Brad Friedman ON 5/4/2008 11:54AM
Why Do Republicans Hate our Troops? And the U.S. Constitution?

As I've been trying to help people understand, this Indiana polling place Photo ID restriction law, as upheld last week by the Supreme Court, is so much worse than most folks realize right now.

It is, as previously predicted, already beginning to spread like wildfire to other states, such as Missouri, where the Republicans control both legislature and state house, and where even a few thousand legal Democratic votes, shaved cynically off of the results in places like the city of St. Louis next November, can be the difference between the state going "red" instead of "blue."

The following remarkable tale of a U.S. Army vet who has fought in three conflicts for our country, and who has won multiple medals for his service, including two bronze stars, purple heart, etc., who has been registered to vote since 1968, but who is now having a helluva time being able to cast a ballot in Indiana, will likely become all too typical now. The report comes from from the Nuvo weekly in the Hoosier state, and was sent in by BRAD BLOG reader "RC."

It is absolutely maddening, at least to those of us who give a damn about American values, such as democracy, the U.S. Constitution, patriotism, love of country, etc., so it may mean little to the vast majority of Republicans out there today. Please, at least, read the lede to the story below and --- if you're a Republican who supports this anti-American bullshit --- please let us know, in comments, why why this sort of treatment of our troops is okay with you. All of this, despite Indiana's own admission during the SCOTUS hearing, that there has never been, in the state's entire history, a single known instance of polling place voter impersonation fraud of the type this law is supposedly meant to keep from happening...

Russell Baughman, 61, has fought in three conflicts as a part of the United States Army. He was on the front lines in Vietnam in March of 1967 during a battle that has since become known as "the bloodiest week." He was sent to Panama shortly after the 1989 U.S. invasion as part of a security maintenance force. And he spent six months in the deserts of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait during the Gulf War in the early '90s.

His military discharge papers feature a paragraph's worth of honors and awards, like the national defense service medal, the Vietnam service medal with two bronze service stars, the combat/infantry badge and a purple heart for being wounded during combat.

So when Baughman arrived at his polling place at precinct 52 in Lawrence March 11 for the special election, he wasn't expecting to have a problem voting in the country he had defended.

But since Indiana passed its new Voter ID law, which requires every voter to have a valid, government-issued photo ID, Baughman's identification was no longer good enough.

He had with him his expired driver's license (he rides a bicycle), his Department of Veterans Affairs card (featuring his purple heart endorsement) and, of all things, his voter's registration card.

But Baughman was told that neither of his photo IDs were valid. His driver's license didn't count because it was expired and his Veterans Affairs card didn't count because it didn't feature any expiration date at all.

"I've been on the voting rolls since 1968," Baughman said, "and all of a sudden they expect my identity to change. There was no change."

Baughman was offered a provisional ballot. The print was so small that the polling officials had to fetch a magnifying glass. After filling out a provisional ballot, the voter has 10 days to prove his or her identity at their county clerk's office. During this time the voter must come up with the appropriate identification.

But herein lay Baughman's problem.

He had been to the license branch several times, trying to attain a new photo ID card, and had been denied. In order to get a new photo ID, one must have one form of primary identification: an original birth certificate or naturalization card, a U.S. Veterans Universal Access Identification card, a current military ID card or a valid U.S. passport.

Please note, the rest of the piece outlines the "Catch-22" that voters such as Baughman face in trying to get his state-issued Photo ID as now needed if one wishes to cast their legal vote in Indiana. "[T]o get a birth certificate or a driver's license or a passport," as required to get that "free" ID frome the state, the story notes, "you have to have valid ID - the very thing you're trying to obtain."

This Anti-American GOP garbage, combined with, likely, millions of previously-registered voters who will show up on Election Day, only to find they are not on the voting rolls at all (given the caging and/or recent oversight-less corporate privatization of such rolls) is going to be so much worse in November than I can possibly get across to you here.

Please join me in helping folks understand what's going on here. This is not about "voter fraud," this is about nothing more than voter suppression. Period. And it's going to be a frickin' nightmare this fall...

 

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i am a stay at home mommy of the best baby in the world. i love God, my husband and my son, America, and freedom. i like to read, work out, and shoot guns.
shielah jonesi am a stay at home mommy of the best baby in the world. i love God, my husband and my son, America, and freedom. i like to read, work out, and shoot guns.

are you nuts?!

What is wrong with asking for ID to vote?!

If you have valid ID, then you vote!

If you're an illegal alien, or a dog, or a dead person, then you have no valid ID and you can't vote.

Simple logic, really.

EVERYONE who is legally allowed to vote has an authentic ID.  NO PROBLEM. Democrats just want pets and the dead to vote so they can win....

LOL 

by shielah jones (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 25 comments) on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 12:51:35 PM
 


An old man wanting to see some thing good happen before I go.
Mr MAn old man wanting to see some thing good happen before I go.

I'll tell you what's "nuts"

What's nuts is that this there is mountains of evidence of election fraud and zero on voter fraud yet Republicans keep bringing up false leaders of voter fraud in another straw-man tactic to suppress votes.

If you haven't watched Uncounted, Hacking Democracy, Votergate, or read Palast's Armed Mad-House, than you don't know what the f%*k you're talking about.

What's wrong with Indiana's law is that it's not necessary. Why would they go to all this effort to make a law that has no reason of president if it weren't for other reasons? Or did you block-out the part about there never has been one single case of voter fraud ever recorded?

Or maybe these nuns are lying too?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_assoc__p_080508_indiana_nuns_turned_.htm

These are just two cases that will exploded into many.

One has to factor this in, since 2000 election there has been zero effort to fix what is obviously a totally flawed voter system. One would think that after 2000 debacle there would have been a major overhaul to make our election system a model for democracy, instead we got Karl Rove purging SAG's with partisan hacks, "caging-lists", more unaccountable e-voting machines, and bull-shit laws like this one to further corrupt an election system that has over the years alienated 50% of voters. Not even simple things like voting on Saturday instead of Tuesday, or ridding us of an antiquated Electoral College has been addressed.

Yet you see nothing wrong. To you we need more unnecessary laws to stop phantom voter fraud.

Fact is powers-that-be don't want fair elections. From beginning to end we're a farce of a so-called "democracy". Just to get on a ballot is difficult. If you're not a Democrat or Republican it's near impossible. Once in a race candidates have to raise money from people that for the most part would have their own agenda that would have little or nothing to do for the good of the community. Than one has to hope when they do go to cast their vote that some bull-shit law doesn't stop them and even if they do vote it's on a machine that may very well erase it.

The fact that we don't have a uniform, verifiable, publicly viewed system of voting is "nuts". The fact that we have a corrupt SCOTUS is "nuts". The fact that you think nothing is wrong with what is wrong is "nuts".

If voting could change things they'd make it illegal.

by Mr M (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 873 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 8:56:29 AM
 


Brent Turner is an election integrity activist. He has founded numerous activist groups- He is an Oxford graduate currently living in California.
Brent TurnerBrent Turner is an election integrity activist. He has founded numerous activist groups- He is an Oxford graduate currently living in California.

Soup to nuts

Vets not allowed to vote ? Gadzooks !! Where's the justice ?  And to think my brother gave his life so others might enjoy freedom .......   

We know this problem exists-  Disenfranchisement is a part of the program-  You don't have to manipulate the vote if you can eliminate the vote.  We must provide solutions on a state level. Though this story is patchy, there is truth in it. 

The problem of counting vet votes is huge-   Once we get them accepted- We still need to get a proper count-  Please support www.openvoting.org  We must demand open source code and complete paper ballots.

Brent Turner

by Brent Turner (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 42 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 9:19:09 PM
 


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Keep the Poor from Voting

Just how many illegal aliens, dogs, or dead people have you people caught voting. In Cleveland we were looking for Mickey and Minney Mouse. The republican talk machine went so far that they convinced local TV crews to follow the story. They did and when they found out that they'd been Roved they dropped the whole story.

If you ever have more time then our highest court judges did then you should study when the idea of voter registration began.
The government wanted to make it so complex that a states DMV wouldn't be able to meet the specifications. Then like magic there appeared a security company who had been tight with the Vice President and old Rumsfeild and they offered the service at the nice price of 58 bucks every American Voter. I hope you think I'm kidding, check it out.

by drasile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 65 comments) on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 1:11:38 PM
 


Conservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.
Mad JayhawkConservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.

One vet

This is one vet who evidently has some special problems with getting ID.  It is not 100, 1000 or 10,000 vets.  The author is obviously making a political mountain out of molehill to fit the well-worn Republicans are stealing elections story. 

This one guy needs to get with someone in the election office in IN and work through his problem if he is mentally incapable of handling the simple procedures involved. It is as simple as that.  If he doesn't have an ID in this day and age something is amiss. Repbulcians aren't keeping him from voting.  He is keeping himself from voting.  Voting involves some responsibility and this man needs to step up and get some ID and this BS that he can't is just that, BS.  He can get a birth certificate without a photo ID.

I hope that we never pass these laws in my state so I can keep voting 3 or 4 times for my neighbors on vacation, for the people who died last week, and for my dog who I am registering this week.  The only problem is that I will have to stand in line behind all the illegals who vote in our state and the people who moved here and voted by absentee in their former state and now are registered here to vote.  

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by Mad Jayhawk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 149 comments) on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 1:15:40 PM
 


Conservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.
Mad JayhawkConservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.

This is a lie

One more thing.  If this guy is a veteran with service from 1967 through 1991 - 24 years, he will be a retired vet.  He will have a retired military ID card with his photo on it.  They all do.   End of story.  Someone is lying about this guy just to slander Republicans.  This is the new politics Obama is bringing us?  Sounds like more of the same BS.

by Mad Jayhawk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 149 comments) on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 1:19:55 PM
 


American citizen. Blogger, photographer. Political ativist.
Zena PrincessAmerican citizen. Blogger, photographer. Political ativist.

ID

Do u think the American people were born yesterday???? If u r so concerned; why aren't you out there helping put together programs to help people GET their IDs? This is nothing but sour apples and I'm sick of people trying to make me swallow their bitter pills. The gig is up! Your sick games don't work anymore. The American People are AWAKE!

by Zena Princess (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 7:49:52 AM
 


I am just a US citizen interested in veracity and integrity. Carpenter and embryonic philosopher, cancer has left me in the position, for the first time in my life, of having all the time I want to read and think. A painfull process on many levels.
TorusI am just a US citizen interested in veracity and integrity. Carpenter and embryonic philosopher, cancer has left me in the position, for the first time in my life, of having all the time I want to read and think. A painfull process on many levels.

It's sad, but...

It needs to be said. There are a huge number of people in this Country who think it's "good" to disenfranchise the poor and racially diverse persons in our society. When I see a comment of "LOL" about such a serious topic I think I probably have spotted one of these individuals. Pretty much the same folks that know that we are at war to take another nations oil for our own, but think that that's OK. Of course you can't say that too loud in public, it's not "PC", so a justification has to be invented and stuck to even though most people know it's a lie. Fairness and justice are not the issue, just winning, and loosing your soul in the process. Sad.

by Torus (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 12:07:58 PM
 


Retired military.  Conservative.  Politically independent.  I enjoy critical thinking.  I wish everybody did.
Joe ReeserRetired military.  Conservative.  Politically independent.  I enjoy critical thinking.  I wish everybody did.

And just what is it...

...about "racially diverse people", WTFTM, that makes it more difficult for them to get a valid photo ID than it does for anyone else?

by Joe Reeser (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 6:10:40 PM
 

 

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