It saddens me to see how Rev.Wright has taken this whole thing and turned it into a ongoing spectacle and opportunity for his own glory and fame. I am the first to agree with many things that he has said in his sermons and lectures of here lately but I disagree with his timing. Let us get Obama into the whitehouse and then we can look at the truths of this nation and how to repair it.
As a messenger of Black Liberation Theology, Rev. Wright should realize the importance and significance of having a black man so close to becoming this nations leader. He should understand first hand the dangers of division and discord and should appreciate how Obama has brought peoples of all races and classes together in this powerful new movement for change under his nomination. Instead of doing whatever he must to clear the path for Obama and to help people unite and bring change he has greedily grabbed the mainstream media's attention for his own glorification.
In the black liberation movement and a lot of other movements I have seen this same old problem rise up again and again. Rev. Wright has had his day, he has his legacy and yes he has spoken many truths but it is time to pass the baton. Why not help one of his bright and shining church members establish their legacy?
Instead of quietly removing himself from the paths of mainstream media he has beat a dusty trail to them seeking his few minutes of fame. This time next year no one will remember his name because the media will have moved on to many other typical "Rev.Wright's". I ask is the few moments of mainstream media attention worth ruining the nations chance at great leadership and change?
I too believe as Newt G. that Rev.Wright is on a path to destroy Obama. I honestly believe that he has been bought either by Clinton, republicans or corporate. Obama is no dummy and I'm willing to bet that he too has seen that something is wrong with Rev.Wrights sudden love affair with mainstream media.
I never once gave up on Obama and I know that his enemies are planning far worse for him but I am prepared to support Obama to victory. I am proud that he has made a conscious decision to spank Rev.Wright. He tried diplomacy and it didn't work and now he has to do what is best for his campaign and vision for this nation. This is the kind of President I want in office and the kind of leadership I will support.
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Wright is the least of Obama's problems. Ayers and Rezko are the big ones that the Republicans will use against him. Rove already has it ready to go in ads and talk show interviews that will further connect Obama to both of these men. If, as has been rumored, that Rezko is going to trade his informatiion about Obama's part in the corrupt political machine in Chicago in order to obtain a lighter sentence, that seals Obama's fate even if he wins the nomination.
Another problem is that at the latest count, 38% of Hillary supporters will not vote for him or will vote for McCain, no matter what she asks them to do. Reagan Democrats will not vote for him and without that vote, which would go to McCain, he has no change to win in the general election. Pennsylvania already showed that working class Americans will not vote for him. The Kennedy wing of the party are fighting to keep control and if it means losing the election to McCain, they are willing to do that.
Too bad Kennedy would not consider a Black presidential candidate like the late Ralph Bunche, who was admired by the whole world. Instead, he found one he could control and now it is blowing up in his face. But when it is all over, Kennedy will still be in power and Obama will go back to representing Chicago in Congress.
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TheSeeker (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 28 comments)
on Monday, May 5, 2008 at 9:49:13 AM
I'm not black so I probably can't fully understand. However it looks to me like rev. Wright is attempting to minimize the effects of the medias depiction of his comments, "which I totally agreed with his comments". It kind of sounds like you support Obama simply because he is black. While on the surface this may seem to be a good thing for the black culture, I feel it could turnout to be a bad thing in many ways. If you are supporting him because you want change. Then I suggest you look at his voting record in the senate. I will bet that if you place McCains, Clintons, and Obamas voting records for the same period along side each other, you wouldn't be able to tell one from the other. I couldn't. Unfortunately I can't see any substantive change from any of these candidates.
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arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 193 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 8:21:46 AM
ok, lets hav a close look at what Obama's been doing
Obama's proposed legislation:
Four bills on energy including
S.1151 : A bill to provide incentives to the auto industry to accelerate efforts to develop more energy-efficient vehicles to lessen dependence on oil;
S.115 : A bill to suspend royalty relief, to repeal certain provisions of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, and to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal certain tax incentives for the oil and gas industry; and
S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.
Obama wants to "repeal certain tax incentives for the oil and gas industry". this alternative energy bill (S.133) was co-sponsored by Harkin, Lugar and Salazar. Clinton's bill again had no co-sponsors.
On health care he introduced ten bills/amendments, including one amendment that passed: S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests. Other issues addressed in his proposed health care legislation were AIDS research (S.823 ), hospital report cards (S.692 — the V.A., and S.1824 — Medicare), better emergency care (S.1873), and drug price controls (S.2347).
Regarding Kennedy's bill that finally passed but its sister bill in the House, H.R.2900, was the one that was finally enacted, and with it, Obama's amendment for safe and effective genetic testing.
Obama has also introduced bills on Iran, voting, veterans, global warming, campaign finance and lobbyists, Blackwater, global poverty, nuclear proliferation, and education.
On Iran: S.J.RES.23 : A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
On votingPassed out of Committee and now on the Senate Calendar for Feb. 22, 2008 S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections Please check this out! This is a great bill. We need this. I can't believe that this time voter intimidation is not already illegal.
On veterans and military personnel: S.1084 : A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans;
On global warmingS.1324 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from transportation fuel sold in the United States;S.1389 : A bill to authorize the National Science Foundation to establish a Climate Change Education Program; S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy. (This last one passed both the House and the Senate as part of the budget bill.)
On campaign finance and lobbyists S.2030 : A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists; and S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
On Blackwater S.2044 : A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes, and S.2147 : A bill to require accountability for contractors and contract personnel under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.
On global poverty S.2433 : A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
On global nuclear proliferation S.1977 : A bill to provide for sustained United States leadership in a cooperative global effort to prevent nuclear terrorism, reduce global nuclear arsenals, stop the spread of nuclear weapons and related material and technology, and support the responsible and peaceful use of nuclear technology.
Finally, Obama has a better record last year in the Senate on getting his bills and amendments passed than does Clinton.
check out Thomas.loc.gov
Obama's Success:
S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
S.AMDT.2658 to H.R.2642 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 To require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan.
S.AMDT.2799 to H.R.3074 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3137 to H.R.3222 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3234 to H.R.3093 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3331 to H.R.3043 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
Senate Resolutions Passed:
S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as "National Summer Learning Day".
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Houston Radical (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 71 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 12:29:29 PM
Well Sharon in your first example of what Obama has been doing you just about proved my point. Giving anything to big business is corporate welfare and does the country absolutely no good at all. Let big business take some of those astronomical profits they have been getting over the past few decades and reinvest in improving their products. Why make us pay for something they will just make more profits from? As I scan down through your other examples I see a lot of trivial legislation that does nothing to actually fix any of the problems. They just make it look like he cares. Then there is Blackwater. He wants to make them more accountable when what he should be doing is stopping the raping of the American people that are paying for these mercenaries to do the murdering for big oil companies. You and I are paying billions to these murderous bastards. I see no move on his or anyone else's part to put a stop to this horror. I also see no move on his part to try and put a stop the the oil company's price gouging so they can make record profits. No Obama is a corporate stoog just like the rest.
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arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 193 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 1:30:10 PM
Obama is the one who should sit down and shut up. Obama is outraged over Wright's comments yet where is Obama's outrage over America's imperialist foreign policy and our fascist police state. Obama is an elitist stooge just like Clinton and McCain. America will perish if we don't confess and seek redemption for our sins and crimes against humanity. Imperialism will lead to our country's destruction just like it did to all previous empires.
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Ty Shlackman (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 583 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 8:35:25 AM
I realize Obama has to do some damage control on this, but....it bothers me that he is so "Appalled" at things Rev.Wright said, when I recognized most of that to be true! It appeared to me that most of his statements (Although he may have been having WAY too much fun saying them, and it speaks sadly of his personal hubris) were against this Administration, and the Old White Men power structure , 'NOT whites or "America" in general.
(and as far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on the AIDs thing: Like Wright, I wouldn't put even THAT past them, knowing what else they've been up to! Remember Tuskeegee, the post 9/11 Anthrax attacks, etc)
I guess Wright has made it all too easy for the Media to do a "Dean Scream" job on all this, and he should have known they'd do just that with all his posturing and gleeful monkeying around.
BUT....Obama could have just said, that he couldn't agree with all Wright said, instead of completely trashing his very reality-based critique of what has been happening to this country under the Neocons. This sounds to me like Obama's blaming Progressives for him not being what he's NOT: a Progressive!
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Bia Winter (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 154 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 9:02:25 AM
"I am the first to agree with many things that he has said in his sermons and lectures of here lately but I disagree with his timing. Let us get Obama into the whitehouse and then we can look at the truths of this nation and how to repair it. "
We were silent in 00 when a partisan Supreme Court gave Bush the White House. Too many of us were silent in 04 when Kerry did not take a strong stand against the war and we caved in and backed him only because he was not Bush. We lost and he crumbled when confronted with overwhelming evidence of vote-stealing.
In 06 many of us compromised and backed Democrats, most of whom were chosen not by state or regional populations but by a small powerful DC circle. When Democrats were given more power in Congress, they sold us out again and again. They won't act on the war, the economy, health care and many other issues. They won't hold the Bush administration accountable for ANYTHING.
I think those are some of the wrongs Rev. Wright is speaking against. Rather than dismissing all that he says, rather than dismissing him entirely because it scares the bejeesus out of a lot of people, we should acknowledge him as a unique voice, not as an Obama stand-in.
Sooner or later we will stop being political strategists and become citizens again. We will quit falling into the trap of TV pundits who control the public dialogue. When together we stop compromising we might start winning.
PS Great web site. :-)
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Kathlyn Stone (33 articles, 204 quicklinks, 19 diaries, 557 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 9:10:58 AM
You need to look at Michael Moore's "Farenheit 9-11" (again?). Near the beginning, Michael Moore says, "Was it all a dream?" The documentary takes us to the Congressional Floor where Vice President and Y2K presidential candidate Al Gore is presiding a convention of the Congressional Black Congress. One after the other, John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Cynthia McKinney (You GO girl!) they stand before VP Gore with a petition to STOP the SCOTUS selection of Bush. Each time VP Gore askes, "Do you have the signature of a Senator"?" and each time they say "No", VP Gore, bangs his gavel and demands they sit down. Michael Moore says, "All they needed was the signature from ONE Senator". THAT is what farenheit 9-11 was all about (remember Moore supported Nader that year), and the majority of people who saw it, missed that part. I didn't. I went home and wrote to CA Senator Barbara Boxer and asked her, "Why didn't YOU sign?" And she wrote back and said, "Gore told me NOT to sign."
I became a Nader supporter when I found elections to be rigged in 1992. I was one of the many who asked Nader to fix this broken selection system (I worked as a precinct inspector for 5 years and saw a number of things...for me, supporting Nader was more about challenging the system, and all it did was proove to be completely corrupt from top to bottom state by state. There were allot of us, hundreds of thousands, who did not stop voting, we got in and fought harder..My gawd, Now I'm looking at joining the GOP to support Ron Paul and fight the neocons face to face in their camp..this independent third party have gone nowhere and we actually have a chance taking the GOP since Bush destroyed it..GOP is a third party, but MSM won't tell because they know most people are so turned off they won't bother to check it out.
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Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 9:53:52 AM
I'm afraid Sharon has fallen for the swift boating from the right wing fascists. Don't you see it by know? This is taking focus OFF the issues that affect us, the citizenry, and placing it on stupid, trivial issues. Who in the hell cares what Obama's church thinks? Who cares what his minister says? Why do so many fall for this enmeshing politics with religion and visa versa? Doing such was well worth Hitler's time and he had clergy spreading his agenda from their pulpits. WRIGHT DOES THE OPPOSITE AND SPEAKS HIS MIND__TRUTH TO POWER!! Amen!
I'm disappointed that Obama "spanked" Wright. I agree with what Wright says, except I'm not sure where he gets his foundation about the AIDS. However, I do know that our Administration sat on their hands(1980-86), and took this religious view that "God was punishing the gays" and that AIDS/HIV was a "punishment" from [God]. OMG! Anyway, while Europe was handing out condoms and looking at "prevention of AIDS", we were saying, "Let them die those evil sinners". Therefore, we were f i n a l l y doing something about it, SIX years AFTER Europe had ben initiating prevention and testing and even research for cures. Finally the religious nuts sat back and allowed science to get to work after hundreds of women and children in America starting testing positive. Oh my, women were getting AIDS< how?, they didn't do the "gay thing"--oh wow, what utter stupidity has religion's ideation bestowed on our society and caused morphing of even larger scale problems.
McCain is our next President and you can mark my word right here on OEN, today. They have him picked and the smear machine works! You just proved it by this letter! Nother, btw, I'm definitely supporting a 3rd party now!
Btw, I am white as a cloud and I could care less if a politician is purple green, yellow, pink, black or white. THE ISSUES and their moxie against the right wing propaganda machine is what I look for in their campaign.
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shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 211 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 9:20:19 AM
IMO, if the spread of AIDs in the black communities wasn't intentional it was LIHOP - let it happen on purpose. The country has known of this epidemic for decades -- and done nothing meaningful to stop it. In fact, the disparity in the incidence of deaths by AIDs among African Americans and the rest of the population is increasing!
There are countless studies and reports documenting this. Here's just one.
To say that I am voting for Obama simply because he is black without evidence and from mere conjecture is wrong. Where in this article did I say I was voting for Obama because he is black? I hope you are not assuming that just because a black person supports Obama they are only doing it because he is black?
And yes, Rev.Wright did need his butt spanked. Obama did what he had to do but I have a feeling regardless of which way Obama might have went you yourself wouldn't have supported him anyway. The truths about this nation were being told by many before this race and will still be here after this race. I see many of these truths everyday of my life which is one reason I'm voting for Obama because it's time for positive change. Show me the candidate who has no flaws, who has a perfect voting record, who has the perfect solution for everything and I'll cast my vote for that person but until then I choose to support Obama rather than Clinton or McCain.
Racism is very much alive in this nation and it lurks in the background of many of these posted comments. I'm for the candidate who can unite people of all races and that candidate just happens to be Obama.
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Sharon Roach (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 43 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 11:22:54 AM
Ms Sharon Roach I do not see it as a spectacle, rather of a time of speaking truth. The reality of the situation is that Obama made it perfectly clear that once elected president all options are on the table against future aggression towards Iran. I do no believe, we should praise a man, and follow him blindly based on the color of his skin, rather the content of his soul.
It is a form of distraction to rally up the masses of disillusioned followers under the influence of a false prophet for the people. A distraction from what? From a message of limited government, abolishing the federal reserve responsible for the countries economic crisis, this is Ron Paul. Under Obama we would still be under these oppressive conditions.
The policies of the United States would not change under Obama, you can speak for change but unless you change the system that poisons society, and he has made clear his willingness to be part of the U.S Administration
Evil takes the form of all colors, of all cultures, it does not choose, it moulds the minds of man that strive under their ambition, quest for power, and their limitless ego. I say look at the man's soul, and his true face will appear, he speaks of compassion but their is no empathy or love within them. Listen to your intuition, rather your desire on seeing the black people rise up from their conditions of poverty. And it is something I also wish to see, the people united, together, without separation, but under Obama nothing will change.
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alex torres (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 12:20:04 PM
"I could no more distance myself from Rev. Wright than the black community"--Obama
Well, now the truth comes out--Obama is just another politician. When the truth needs speaking, he's backing down.
Too bad, I was just beginning to respect him a little and then he goes and knuckles under to the pressure when he should have stood next to Rev. Wright and put it all in context--Ammurika NEEDS damning for what the Bush/cheney Admin. has done, among other things. The truth will come out. Better now than later.
But we wouldn't want that "uppitty nigger" Wright letting the truth be known, would we? (now don't start with the bashing, i'm not using that word the wrong way, it's how the racist right wingers think)
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Papawhale (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 58 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 1:26:19 PM
It doesn't matter that Obama has repudiated Wright, he can repudite Wright all he likes, the media will call any denial self serving and associate him anyway.
Wright is just a convenient tool to destroy him just like weapons of mass destruction and Saddam and the alledged irregularities in Kerry's swift boat record . As long as the media insists that Wright and Obama are linked, they are, the truth is irrelevent.
It takes courage but swift boating must be called for what it is, irresponsible bullying by vested interests to preserve their wealth and power. Power belongs to those who would use it responsibly.
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kwalsh (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 137 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 9:15:25 PM
Obama is an opportunistic, establishment politician. He has said recently that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of today is not the one he knew. This is blatantly false. Wright's positions and prophetic rhetoric have been consistent over a very long period of time.
The recent extreme statements on Wright by Obama are not likely to get him very far. For establishment types, the easily demonstrated blatant lies about Wright changing are going to reinforce their worries about Obama. For progressives, Obama's ever more vicious attacks on the progressive positions of Wright will highlight the fact that he is an establishment politician who does not stand for any real change.
Yes, there are some questionable statements by Wright. But there has been more focus in the criticism on the right-on-target prophetic remarks of Wright than on the questionable points. And Obama is clearly disassociating himself from the former, which does make sense given his 100% establishment voting record and campaign positions.
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Bill Samuel (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 191 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 8:54:13 PM
I listened to Rev Wright's entire speech and was moved to tears by his eloquence, his brilliance and his passion for the truth. If Ms Stone thinks he should be spanked for that, well, what can I say?
I frankly am appalled that a man of the obvious superior character of Rev Wright, was expected to lay low, "keep his mouth shut" after the virulent attacks on his preaching and his person, just because his speaking "truth to power" and calling out the slime balls who distorted his message and smeared his good name, might damage Obama????? EXCUSE ME?????
I guess everything is about Obama, now. What a load of crap!!!
It was the cable smear machine who continued the demonization and the guilt by association "hit job." Rev Wright did not say one negative thing about Obama, in fact, I had the distinct impression that he was saying he understood why Obama had to disavow him the first time around. The Corpstream sleeze machine couldn't have distorted the actual message more if they had tried. I was appalled!!!!
All he (Obama) needed to say in response to this bruhaha was " Why are all you pontificators so determined to keep me from talking about the issues that the American people want to hear about?" WHY INDEED?
Obama may have been advised to abandon his old friend and pastor, but he lost my support when he let the election thieves create a narrative that is meant to say that Obama will fail at the hands of another black man. If I were an African American, I would be livid.I am livid as a white woman. And it is amazing how quickly the echo chamber squeezed out any other narrative. I fear we are doomed.
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Char Stellamaris (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 35 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 10:21:09 PM
My opinion is that Obama's response should have been: "Yes, I agree with Rev. Wright on most things. What part don't you agree with? Let's talk about that. I'm glad you brought that up!"
Then they (the pundits and campaign operatives) would have to defend the status quo and we all know it's indefensible.
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Kathlyn Stone (33 articles, 204 quicklinks, 19 diaries, 557 comments)
on Thursday, May 1, 2008 at 10:04:57 AM
I have heard much of Jeremiah Wrong's speech and and am disgusted with his hate, his insanity and his lies to impotence (the opposite of truth to power). Why Barack Obama stayed with this pastor for 22 years is a mystery.
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Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 394 comments)
on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 11:40:48 PM
