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March 26, 2008 at 06:47:22

Anonymous Source Revealing Secret United Nations Meeting on ETs/UFOs Becomes More Credible

by Michael Salla     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Veteran UFO researcher Robert VanDerClock has confirmed that he has met with and seen the credentials of an anonymous source who disclosed that a secret UN meeting had taken place on February 12 that discussed UFOs and extraterrestrial life. In a February 13 article first announcing the secret UN meeting, the anonymous source disclosed that the meeting was called in response to national governments concerns about increases in global UFO sightings. In a later article, the anonymous source, henceforth referred to as “Source A”, disclosed a time table existed for full disclosure of extraterrestrial life by 2017. In a phone interview conducted with me on March 25, VanDerClock confirmed that he had met with Source A approximately one year earlier. At the time, Source A was accompanied by the same two New York researchers, Clay and Shawn Pickering, who were responsible for the initial release of information concerning the February 12 meeting.

At their meeting one year ago, VanDerClock personally reviewed the military credentials of Source A that were, in VanDerClock’s opinion, “impeccable”. Source A showed Vanderclock an album of his military service in classified facilities. This helps confirm some of the claims of Source A of having worked in classified facilities where he was exposed to projects involving extraterrestrial technology and life. Source A possessed, for example, a classified document he obtained in 1982 that detailed retrieval operations for crashed extraterrestrial vehicles that was another version of the famed Special Operations Manual that publicly emerged in 1994.

VanDerClock’s confirmation of Source A’s military background and service in highly classified facilities is significant since Source A claims he was instructed to brief the UN meeting on UFO sightings and extraterrestrial life under extraordinary security procedures. Source A had claimed that he was authorized leak information about the UN meeting, prior to its occurrence, by his superior, an undisclosed Navy admiral to the general public. The Pickering brothers claimed to have received the information on February 11, and relayed the information to me on February 12, soon after the meeting had taken place.

According to VanDerClock, Source A is very reliable and there is no reason to doubt what he has disclosed so far. VanDerClock believes Source A is being directed to release information by an admiral as Source A claims. Asked where he would place Source A in terms of a hypothetical credibility scale from zero to 100, VanDerClock replied, around 92%. Vanderclock ranks Source A’s testimony very highly, and ranks him among the three most important whistleblowers he has come across. He places Source A alongside former military intelligence officer Lt Col. Philip Corso, Snr, and former NASA rocket specialist, Clark McClelland, as the three most significant ‘insiders’ to so far have revealed accurate information on UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Vanderclock was therefore highly confident that the secret UN meeting on UFOs/extraterrestrials occurred on February 12 as claimed by Source A.

Bob VanDerClock has been researching UFO’s for 15 years and has done 76 public lectures and written several research papers. He served for three years in the U.S. military as an Army Intelligence agent during the Vietnam War performing military intelligence duties. He is currently a postmaster in the U.S. Postal Service. More info available here. VanDerClock stated that he is willing to sign an affidavit confirming his meeting and review of Source A’s credentials.

VanDerClock’s testimony corroborates another researcher who also met with Source A and reviewed his credentials subsequent to the February 12 meeting. Robert Morningstar, Associate Editor of UFO Digest and a Vice Commander in the US Coast Guard Reserve, also confirmed Source A’s credentials, and believes Source A is truthfully disclosing events as they have occurred. Consequently, VanDerClock has provided additional independent corroboration of the initial claims of the Pickering brothers concerning Source A’s military background, and his background in classified projects. This helps further establish the credibility of Source A’s original claims that he was responsible for a briefing to the UN on UFOs and extraterrestrial life, and had been authorized to disclose this to the general public.

 

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Dr. Michael Salla is an internationally recognized scholar in international politics, conflict resolution, US foreign policy and the new field of 'exopolitics'. He is author/editor of five books; and held academic appointments in the School of International Service& the Center for Global Peace, American University, Washington DC (1996-2004); the Department of Political Science, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia (1994-96); and the Elliott School of International Affairs, George Washington University, Washington D.C., (2002). He has a Ph.D in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia, and an M.A. in Philosophy from the University of Melbourne, Australia. He has conducted research and fieldwork in the ethnic conflicts in East Timor, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Sri Lanka, and organized peacemaking initiatives involving mid to high level participants from these conflicts.

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I am Admin for the Alien Casebook, which is predominantly alien and UFO oriented with some paranormal. As well, I am a multiple abductee with my last abduction being October 1988.
Alien CasebookI am Admin for the Alien Casebook, which is predominantly alien and UFO oriented with some paranormal. As well, I am a multiple abductee with my last abduction being October 1988.

ANOMYMOUS AND LEGITIMATE SOURCES

I don't know Mr. Salla, we've all been down these roads with seemingly credible people in the past only to discover that many were simply narcissistic personalities that required personal attention. They all had a position somewhere at some juncture in their life and then unfortunately for us they craved some kind of ufological limelight.

This all takes me back to an article of yours you wrote in May 2006 where you had mentioned that Greer cared to exclude certain people from the Disclosure database. Phil Schneider was one of them. You were adamant about such but upon Phil's death we find that Greer made the right decision while you went on believing the Phil Schneider tales of woe. Not to go off the beaten path but I feel the need to explain a little here since others are reading and I don't want to leave them in total darkness.

In regard to Phil, one only has to do the math but there's even more than just the math.

In Phil's speeches (on YouTube) he personally claims to have worked for the government for 17 years as an Aerospace Engineer, Structural Engineer and Geological Engineer. Had you just done the math back in 2006, you would have discovered the truth because Phil Schneider was born in 1947, which makes him 32 years old while working at Dulce, digging tunnels for the Army Corp of Engineers. Subtract his claim of working 17 years for the government from his age, and you've got 15 years left over. You can add two more to that since he didn't cease working permanently until 1981 according to Social Security records when he went on SSI. What this means is that somehow Phil Schneider became an Aerospace Engineer, Structural Engineer and Geological Engineer in the first 17 years of his life because that's all you've got left to work with is 17 years. So how did he do it and why did you believe in him? Please don't state that he received such degrees while working for the Army Corp of Engineers because he had other jobs outside of working for them in his SS records. What it is, is three pretty good whoppers if you ask me. In my book, one whopper and they're out.

As well, Phil enjoys using the words 'working for the government on black projects at Dulce' however he never mentioned that it was the Army Corp of Engineers. Why didn't Phil ever mention working for the Army Corp of Engineers and instead consistently using the terminology 'working for the government'? He worked at Dulce but he never worked 'for' Dulce. He was doing what most all Army Corp of Engineers do, dig tunnels and holes, either that or build roads and dams, which is all Phil did so why didn't he state so.

Black projects are not a secret. The only thing that is secret about a black project is what the actual project is. We even know each year how much of the U.S. budget goes to black projects so they're no secret. You wouldn't know that to hear Schneider. Besides that, I am all for putting the military underground in tunnels.   If harm came to our soil would you want them working for us above ground or below it.  As well, look at what we got to view over in N. Korea via satellite last year. The U.S. doesn't want outside nations to witness our business and it's been this way for a very long time.

Enough about all of that, what's important here is that unless there is a witness who is willing to come forward and have their life scrutinized, then we shouldn't have to believe what we read. Instead, we're left very skeptical.

In your article here the following was stated, "Asked where he would place Source A in terms of a hypothetical credibility scale from zero to 100, VanDerClock replied, around 92%."

Not so hypothetical in regard to witnesses because, 92% is actually zero if it isn't 100%.

Why all the controversy about these witnesses anyway.  From what I'm reading, I believe that everyone is tired of witnesses not coming forward these days for one reason or another.  And secondly, we're tired of some that do come forward only to find out that they're not what they're cracked up to be.

So where are the witnesses and why won't they come forward? Like Schneider, are they currently working for our government? If so, you're looking at another kind of individual who is possibly commiting a crime against our government if they're position holds them in secrecy.  So what kind of witness do you have now? Or do you think it's ok to do such things?

I'm all for disclosure but I also know that if disclosure comes at all, it's going to come when the alien's want it to and on their terms alone, not on man's terms.

 

 

by Alien Casebook (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 2:14:31 PM
 


Dr. Michael Salla is an internationally recognized scholar in international politics, conflict resolution, US foreign policy and the new field of 'exopolitics'. He is author/editor of five books; and held academic appointments in the School of International Service& the Center for Global Peace, American University, Washington DC (1996-2004); the Department of Political Science, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia (1994-96); and the Elliott School of International Affairs, George...

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Michael SallaDr. Michael Salla is an internationally recognized scholar in international politics, conflict resolution, US foreign policy and the new field of 'exopolitics'. He is author/editor of five books; and held academic appointments in the School of International Service& the Center for Global Peace, American University, Washington DC (1996-2004); the Department of Political Science, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia (1994-96); and the Elliott School of International Affairs, George...

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Anonymous Sources Coming Forward

Anonymous sources disclose information without revealing themselves so that their careers/safety, etc. are not threatened. Even if participating in an "authorized" leak, there are still risks for public officials who are actively serving in a military/diplomatic posting and carrying out secret orders. So demanding that they reveal themselves in order to take their testimony seriously is both counter productive, and a little naive. The best way to proceed is to determine if the anonymous source is credible, check credentials, history, etc. and then determine if his/her information checks out. As the article makes clear, an additional independent source does vouch for the source's credibility, so that helps justify investigations to determine whether the sources claims of what happened at the claimed UN meeting are correct or not.

I don't want to comment too much on Phil Schneider since it's a distraction to the main topic. I will say though that more than one of Stephen Greer's pool of disclosure witnesses believed that Schneider was telling the truth. Daniel (Morris) Salter served with the NRO on secret UFO crash recovery teams and had this to say about Schneider: "most of what Phil said was true..." (Life with a Cosmos Clearance, p. 156). If Greer vetted Schneider, perhaps he should have also vetted Salter for believing Schneider's testimony and a few other disclosure witnesses as well.

by Michael Salla (12 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 22 comments) on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:49:34 PM
 


Between jobs, passions are motorcycles, music, and green-tech
truthtruffleBetween jobs, passions are motorcycles, music, and green-tech

Don't harp about UFO's, BUILD UFO's!

C'mon, how difficult can it be? I'm not seein' a moon base, do you? Hmmm....

by truthtruffle (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 91 comments) on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 11:33:36 PM
 


"It's a good thing.and not a good thing, for people who have eyes, yet not see...or ears, that do not hear" pseudonym BrokenWolfs

"The powers of the money changers, are like the powers, of people upstream, who build damns cutting off water to their neighbors" pseudonym BrokenWolfs

BrokenWolfs"It's a good thing.and not a good thing, for people who have eyes, yet not see...or ears, that do not hear" pseudonym BrokenWolfs

"The powers of the money changers, are like the powers, of people upstream, who build damns cutting off water to their neighbors" pseudonym BrokenWolfs

Heres a reason why

This is why, "We have not heard the truth" I to would be ashame of myself, If I knew I had order to shot one of them from the sky, then ran-sack the star craft, taking all there was, then to take it apart, to see how it all ticks..then to market some things to help keep the lid tighter..you know, like microwaves, lazars, stelth, computers, chips, im sure the list could be endless by now..You know, if these people from the skys, wanted to do us in, think of these words, In a blink of an eye..or think of the great invetors, who got inside info, to free the world, from combusted gas gusing cars..yeah FREE ENERGY!! now that hes gone, his invetions are being used, in more ways then one..and costing us to use them..as they keep the better stuff to them selfs, as they dicktate to us, the way..unreal..

Best regards to the people of the world!!

by BrokenWolfs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Thursday, March 27, 2008 at 6:03:31 PM
 

 

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