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June 27, 2007 at 07:36:52

My "Pay to Leave" Migration Proposal

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I like the idea of choice when it comes to migration. I like the idea that America has a choice in how much migration it allows and I also like the idea that migrationists be given a choice as well.

Passing a migration bill now will expose two huge weaknesses. One, the United States had no choice in accepting 12 million premature migrants, and two, that the migrants had no choice as to whether or not they stayed or went back to their home country.

Do the migrants have any choice in whether or not they stay? They are here, and to make them leave and start over seems really wrong. Yet Americans haven't benefited from the influx of migrants as some might lead you to believe because at the same time mass migration has been coming into the United States, job and manufacturing opportunities have been migrating OUT of the United States. 

One primary factor propping up the United States economy is that many middle aged and older Americans have seen their property values rise three and four times over what they paid for their deed a couple of decades ago. Meanwhile, the youngest generation has less chance at owning property proving that migration is not in anyway helping our economy KEEP manufacturing jobs in the United States.

I believe monitoring and enforcing our border is something the United States Government has refused to do and there must be some nefarious, ill begotten reason for that. Perhaps our government is aware of illegal drug trafficking and doesn't want to thwart it by actually improving security at the border. Additionally, legalizing overmigration with a sweep of the legislative hand will just prove that the United States will never control its borders if it's done before true enforcement barriers and procedures are  put in place.

Before any migration bill is passed, I propose that the border wall be finished and the proper security put in place.  At that point, I think every migrationist should be offered $15,000 dollars to leave the United States and go back to their country of origin.  Additionally, another $5,000 dollars would be placed in an American bank account that would go toward the necessary legal fees for becoming a United States citizen. This additional money could be accessed and the process for reinstatement could be initiated one year after a migrationist has gone back to their original country of departure.

Aren't you curious just how many of the alleged 10 million people waiting to be made citizens would go for this offer?  I bet the predictions about what percentage would take the money and return to their prior home land would vary a wild amount.

If the United States cannot afford a "pay to leave" program, then how can the U.S. afford a "pay to stay" and receive government programs that would result from the influx of 10 million instant new citizens?

Does the government have the funds for a "pay to leave" program? The United States would have had the funds if when the "War on Terrorism" had been initiated an equal and just as aggressive strategy to implement alternative energies would have been started as well. Instead, we are squandering billions of dollars warring to maintain access to oil reserves outside of U.S. borders, and in essence, we are migrationists ourselves when it comes to oil and our dependence on it.

 

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Kathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.
Kathlyn StoneKathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.

The band-aid approach to immigration reform

over the last several decades has left us with no easy answers.

I keep going back to the reason we have have so many illegal immigrants in the first place. They need work and US industry loves cheap labor.

It goes back even further: Multinationals, with help from their foreign governments (led by the US but many European countries as well), have managed to make an economic killing off Mexico's resources, taking most of the wealth out of the country, leaving a little for those in power and next to nothing for the people. I read that something like 75-80% of the population work in and surrounding Cancun serving the tourism industry.

If you or I lived in Mexico, we might consider sneaking across the border, too. Many, if not most Americans, have had a first-hand look at the living standards in Mexico. Surely we don't stay at the cute cabana or the four-star all-inclusive resort and not notice the poverty all around!

The top priority should be the U.S. and Mexico governments sharing responsibilty for creating a liveable environment for Mexican citizens. Mexico had a chance to make its own reforms but that election was stolen. 

 

 

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by Kathlyn Stone (39 articles, 213 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 595 comments) on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 at 2:30:16 PM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

Is 15 grand insignificant?

Especially if a group banded together, wouldn't 15 grand multiplied by 3 or 4 or 5 be a significant enough amount of money to start a business or rent a vacation home to tourists, or something???


At least by putting an amount of money on the table we might get a better understanding of the economic lure coming to the United States has.  If many migrationists are sending back 500 bucks a month, than 15,000 dollars represents 30 months worth of income, plus families can be reunited immediately.

Just what role are the United States and Mexico playing in not having enough jobs for the citizens of Mexico?

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 at 2:44:24 PM
 


Kathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.
Kathlyn StoneKathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.

How can the US-Mexico governments halt illegal immigration?

By working on development opportunities within Mexico. By changing trade and investment laws.

While the government has avoided developing a workable policy, non-governmental organizations have been hard at work looking at migration. This report looks at the immigration issue from political, economic, demographic, social and anthropolical angles. I clipped a summary of their findings from the executive summary but to get a good understanding of how our economies and governments entertwine it's worth reading the whole report.

México – U.S. Migration Management: A Binational Approach

I. MAIN FINDINGS 1.1.- Migration must be seen within the context of broader economic integrationtrends.In January, 1994, Mexico joined the U.S. and Canada in the North AmericanFree Trade Agreement (NAFTA). The agreement was heralded as an historicopportunity for Mexico, leading to the social and economic convergence of allthree North American societies. Among other things, the agreement waspresumed to increase Mexican commodity exports and lower emigration.Contrary to what officials heralded, however, experts predicted that NAFTAwould lead to a migration hump, in which migration pressures wouldincrease in the short to medium term before reducing in the long term. Tenyears after the agreement was implemented, Mexican exports have risen veryrapidly, and emigration has also reached unprecedented levels. As predicted,while trade, financial and service integration has undoubtedly accelerated,this has not led to sufficient economic and social convergence between theU.S. and Mexico, and migration has thus far continued at historic levels. 

1.2.- Mexico – U.S. migration is driven by economic disparities.Although Mexico – U.S. migration is the largest flow of its kind in the world,and its size is matched by its complexity and the extremely diverse nature ofmotivations, transnational links, and family, labor and cultural connections, itstill responds mostly to the large difference in income levels and employmentopportunities arising from asymmetrical integration. The pervasiveness ofsocial relations in the flow has not overtaken the economic nature ofmigration. Mexicans move to the U.S. in search of better jobs that mayimprove their wellbeing in Mexico, or provide a better future for them andtheir families in the U.S. 

1.3.- While the prognosis is for more migration in the short-to-medium term, if proactive steps are taken to manage the flow, long-term reductions in migration pressures are possible and even likely

 

At present U.S. employers and Mexican workers appear to be mutuallydependent on migration. In the near future, conditions in both countries arelikely to maintain the flow at close to its current levels, with ups and downsdefined, in the short term, by U.S. employment growth and policies. Over thelonger term Mexican development holds the best likelihood of reducing thenumber of migrants. Demographic changes will contribute to lessenemigration pressures. Concerning Mexican employment, while the prognosisis sometimes disappointing, there is reason to believe that formal sectoremployment may regain its momentum of the late 1990’s. But there is littleroom for complacency. Some critics reasonably point out that today’smigration momentum may carry on indefinitely and, as long as today’sinstitutions for [mis-] managing migration remain unchanged, they couldwell be right..

1.4.- Binational cooperation is key to better managing migration between Mexico and the United States.The window of opportunity for a comprehensive bilateral migrationagreement is all but closed at the present time. And yet, collaboration isessential to improving the management of migration and deriving positiveimpacts in both countries. A high level of cooperation andinstitutionalization already exists in the fields of trade and investment. It hasbeen useful to both countries, and these two models can serve to furthercooperation in migration affairs. And cooperation has also risen to new highsin other fields, such as security, although it is less institutionalized.We are proposing an arrangement in which renewed dialogue, improvednational migration policy coordination in Mexico and the United States, and abinational administrative body gradually develop substantial levels ofcooperation. Together with a series of confidence building steps, they wouldcreate practical, day-to-day collaboration. A bilateral approach to themanagement of migration opens up avenues for the more secure, effectiveand humanitarian control of the northward movement. Specifically, we areproposing a number of specific components to re-direct movements fromlargely unauthorized migration to legal work programs. At the same time,we are suggesting elements that, if proactively targeted, can boost Mexicandevelopment. Finally, we believe the time has come for Mexico and theUnited States to cooperate more systematically in the enforcement ofmigration laws along the Mexico – U.S. border, provided that new legalavenues are opened to migrants and employers. Cooperating on the border,facilitating legal status, deterring unauthorized employment, providing legalalternatives for new migrant flows benefiting from new social andinformation infrastructure in both countries, leveraging remittances,encouraging return migration, and maintaining ongoing and closeconsultations on all aspects of the binational relationship will lead to asubstantial improvement in the regulation of migration, and to a much moresatisfying Mexico – U.S. relationship. Acknowledgement of the responsibilityshared in the current state of Mexico – U.S. migration should evolve into practical collaboration for its solution. 

 

by Kathlyn Stone (39 articles, 213 quicklinks, 23 diaries, 595 comments) on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 at 3:45:20 PM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

But is it too easy to come to the U.S.?

In a way, aren't we almost ridiculing the Mexican citizen by making it primarily an issue of will and money as to whether or not they want to come here? Surely being snuck in is dangerous for a variety of reasons, but those reasons appear to be more about the natural terrain, unscrupulous coyotes, and temperature rather than the United States actually preventing excessive migration by trying.


At some point, we must conclude that migrators believe it is easier to sneak into the United States than try and improve Mexico, and that cannot be a good thing either.  By not making it harder to migrate to the United States the United States may be sucking out of Mexico the very people who could make Mexico a better place.

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 at 4:08:55 PM
 


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How about the citizens

maybe we should pay some of them to relinguish their citizenship and go elsewhere? And  how do we define the illegal migrants: whoever applies for the money is llegal, right? Get him , he is right there!  The fish took the bait.

There is no migration or immigration problem.  Those numbers are bogus. But the worst is that we are distracted from the real issues like Iraq war,  for instance. With money spent and stolen there we would be able to  make Mexico a  Paradise.

Immigration is a symptom, not  a cause. And BTW, I wrote about it  in my article 'Species 8472'.  I also wrote that  we here are blind.  Make your borders inpenetratable.? Beware of what you wish, folks because when you will need to sneak out you will not be able to. I know, I was there.

 Mark Sashine

by Mark Sashine (47 articles, 19 quicklinks, 235 diaries, 3360 comments) on Thursday, June 28, 2007 at 8:54:58 AM
 


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Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

"The Fish took the Bait"...

So we should leave the money in a bag and just let anyone who wants have it?  Perhaps I'm the first one who has stated that any removal of migrants should include compensation, so to treat this idea as being evil and sinister means you are pretty much putting all ideas that disagree with your viewpoint in the same box.

Yet then you go on to say that Mexico could be enriched if there was no war in Iraq, which is exactly is what I had stated as well.  If you see no generosity in offering lawbreakers compensation then maybe you are too intractable in your position.

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Thursday, June 28, 2007 at 3:21:05 PM
 

 

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