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July 19, 2007 at 06:28:48

Opposite Sides of the World, Opposite Interpretations of the Same Events...

by Alessandro Machi     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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When people in the United States assemble for a protest, they usually are much calmer than the crowds we see protesting on the "other side of the world".

In the United States we have both industrialized and white collar jobs that appear to be peaceful. Whether one works on an assembly line piecing together gas guzzling, oil thirsty S.U.V.'s, or works for a fortune 500 company orchestrating stock offerings so that huge malls and corporate villages that straddle pristine forest land can be built, we consider our jobs to be "peaceful" in nature. Yet an abundance of our jobs actually create a greater and greater need for oil and other resources that we must then procur from outside of our own borders.  

Is that really a peaceful way to live?

The type of jobs found in the opposite part of the world may not appear very appealing to us, but for the most part they may in fact be the peaceful type of jobs we portend to have in the United States. Do you see the irony here? We believe we have peaceful jobs, protest peacefully and civilly, and are a peaceful country. Meanwhile those on the opposite side of the world probably have the real peaceful jobs in which they make one of a kind clothing amidst swirling clouds of dust, or hand pick their food products, yet we have the propensity to see the opposite side of the word as being more violent and barbaric than we are, especially when they protest.  

In the United States we plan our protests in air conditioned Star Bucks locales, then carry out the protest protected by sun tan lotion and bottled water as we make plans on our cell phones for that evenings social calendar.  

In the opposite side of the world, in places like the Middle East or South East Asia, protests appear to be of a much more violent and hostile tone.  In America, we generally see Americans protesting peacefully, lol, if we see them at all. 

In the opposite side of the world, "Death to America" has become a common chant over the past few decades. Maybe after a real hard day of work in a non air conditioned, dust laden environment, perhaps I'd be really pissed off as well and would look angry if I then felt obligated to attend a protest.  

I tend to look for a sign from the opposite side of the world that they can assemble in public in a peaceful, responsible manner without suicide bombers lying in wait, and without having to chant "Death to America". However I also no longer accept movies like "Transformers" in our own country as being peaceful when they have blatant tie ins to General Motors and their gas guzzling "MUSCLE CARS".  

In the United States, we tend to not see the underlying violence in messages that are peacefully delivered. If a message is peacefully delivered, it must be peaceful in nature, we mistakenly believe.  

Our news media glamorizes movies like Transformers and General Motors hopes their marketing tie in to this movie will help create the next generation of customers who will purchase their big, loud powerful gas guzzling anti-oil conservation vehicles. 

If I could pass a law, it would be that no longer can an American news broadcaster put their own comments over images from another country and tell us what it is we are seeing. I'm not exactly sure who's voice or message should be over the images that come from other countries, but how can we trust a news program that advertises and promotes a movie like Transformers as a good thing in this day and age when we wage war over oil reserves located in other parts of the world?

When it comes to our animals, we love our dogs and cats, and eat cattle. In the opposite of side of the world, they revere cattle as being sacred and eat dogs and cats, another example of how the opposite side of the world behaves opposite to ourselves.

Because we are on opposite sides of the world and view many things in an opposite manner, perhaps we can never really reach any true compromises or understanding. Maybe if we first understand we are opposites in so many ways, then some level of real understanding could be begin to happen.


 

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Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

I guess we have opposite viewpoints on this...

Do you believe that we only see the more violent protests from around the globe in the United States and not the more peaceful ones?


What do you think the percentages are of peaceful protests to more aggressive ones in places like the Middle East and South East Asia?

If your point is that it is the environment that one lives in that can create opposites, that I would agree with and perhaps I should add a paragraph addressiing that.

I did mention that our working conditions are generally probably nicer than in other parts of the world and that might be what is creating opposite, or opposing viewpoints over similar matters.


by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 9:25:28 AM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Alessandro

I think you  would agree that if someone reads the history of this country ( even internal one)  that someone who lives outisde of the US  first would consider this country to have a history of horrible violence. Then that someone would read about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki  and consider that not only we here in the US are violent but that we seem to have some kind of a criminal mentality mixed with hypocricy. Then that someone  ( if he /she   has time and is willing) would read the books by great American writers and .. fortify that view of his/her. And then that someone might come here for a visit and...  find out that people here are the same as everyone else. That is if the visit is long enough and he/she is not harrassed by TSA or someone else:) But the reason he/she would hopefully come to that proper conclusion is that he/she  would have already, despite all that info a clear and proper feeling that h/she is not superior over others in any way.

Bingo! That idiotic sense of superiority cultivated here with   malicious patience results in the ' filter' through  which  not only Americans  see the events with other people but which prevents them  from  actually checking their wrong perceptions. That filter is the one  that makes it impossible for our people here  to understand that if they see a violent demonstration there now, the Selma Alabama events in the 60s were pretty similar. Put them together on the screen and you  get the right message. But nobody wants to put them together.

As soon as the superiority filter ( even  the shame of Katrina did not destroy it) works, we are doomed. BTW, I hope you agree with me that  so far  whoever was asked out there: friends, enemies, neutrals- they all do not consider themseleves superior to us. The like us, hate us, despise us, follow us, use us, deceive us, fight us,  help us but none of them so far consider themselves superior than us, better than us,  more special that us. WE ARE  THE SAME. Those word should be carved in stone on the Statue of Liberty.

I do not think we have different views, you and me. We both  seem to go to the right direction.

by Mark Sashine (47 articles, 19 quicklinks, 235 diaries, 3359 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 9:53:27 AM
 


Middle aged guy.
Alessandro MachiMiddle aged guy.

What makes us different...

is that the United States has so effectively and seamlessly made our country addicted to oil. It is this addiction to oil which changes how we view the world and how the world views us. Creating roadways where once stood dirt actually reduces ambient dust which changes peoples clothing instincts & their eating habits, and that in turn most likely can change their behavior!


The more dust one is surrounded by, the spicier the food one will find in that region so that it can be tasted satisfactorily. This in turn can change a person's internal chemistry to some extent, how, I don't know.

I tend to think that being able to survive on a mountainside with little more than some goats and personal fortitude is an amazing feat and one that I admire. I may not want to emulate it, but I respect it immensely.

I don't think there has ever been a superpower that didn't have bad marks against it, and it also seems that almost every region in the world has had adjoining countries at one time or another go to war against each other, so I don't think the United States is actually that much more different.

However, I do believe the United States, now more than ever, needs to be a leader in designing efficient ways of energy creation rather than using military might to get what it is still addicted to.

by Alessandro Machi (13 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 174 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 10:38:54 AM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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quite right

and that is why I still have a book by Jules Verne 'The Mysterious Island' where an American(!) shows how to  survive, get fire, water, define the location,  find food, etc.  I also still can do calculations on the slide rule ( no one in the whole company  now knows how to do that) and even on abacus.  I cannot milk goats, I guess.

I would agree that dust defines things but  I think, even more the opportunity does it. The US is a country of Opportunity ( not opportunities). Only one- to be who you are. That is  you can realise  in full potentioal either your good qualities or your baad ones with  similar chance of ' success' considering the criteria. Bush is successful and so is Gore: just the criteria  are different. That is what other places do not have: even in the 19th Century the  European visitors  noticed it. I think it was Kipling who wrote, 'In the English crowd everyone is someone's son; in the US crowd everyone is someone's father'. This does not make the people as entitties different, but rather the derivatives, the rates at which they react to the same things, the considerations of what is important and what is not.. John O'Hara said that in  his state of Pennsylvania ' the word saving was said with the same sacrddness as the name of Jesus.' That is, of course is totally alien to the  man, say in Russia. Moreover, the Russian would consider such behavior a   mockery.

So.. I  stay corrected: we are the same but our derivatives are different:)

 

by Mark Sashine (47 articles, 19 quicklinks, 235 diaries, 3359 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 12:19:53 PM
 


Robert Chapman is greatly interested in developing political awareness among as many people as possible.
Robert ChapmanRobert Chapman is greatly interested in developing political awareness among as many people as possible.

The filter

The filter is definitely in place.

I was in Germany recently, and I spoke with a woman who had a very seriously negative image of the US based on our crime rate, the large distances that relatives live apart from one another and the surliness of American children and teenagers.

As we spoke, I asked her is she had ever been to America, had relatives here or had contact with Americans travelling in Europe and she conceded that none of the above are the case.

I then asked her where she had received such negative images of the US, and she replied from watching television.

Is it not conceivable then, that our perceptions, derived from television, of people's lives and attitudes are not skewed in ways to make American life and American values more attractive in contrast with conditions elsewhere?

by Robert Chapman (28 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 557 comments) on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 4:06:24 PM
 

 

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