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Socialism and Nazism- The Two Big Differences

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                                                                                                "Until recently    average American considered   socialism and Nazism as something equally malignant as he should"

From the comment by   some Russian immigrant on a chain   letter showing the combined socialist/Trade- Union demonstration in LA.

In my first months of immigration to this country I was invited to the University to talk with the sovietologists.

-           Congratulations, you have escaped   from communism,- they greeted me cordially.

-           I never saw any communist in Russia, - I said.

-           What do you mean?

-           I mean real communists, the ones who read Marx   or   wanted to change the world. Instead    I saw a bunch of bastards in power. Those bastards    populated the country more and more until the % of them became dangerous and brought instability. Then I left. I guess real communists still exist somewhere. As for the bustards, I am sure they are a plenty here too.

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-           You are right about that,- they said.

That's how we gained   an understanding. It was much easier   with them   than   with some of j my fellow- immigrants who   promote   vehemently one of the most vicious lies of the 20th Century- the perception that socialism and Nazism are the same or at least very similar.

It is quite understandable    why this lie is   cherished here in the West. It is to denigrate the epic victory of the Russian people (all nationalities of Russia) over the Nazi machine. It   is to   deny Russia its historic place. It is to spit on the   memory   of those who   won that war, really won it because they were BETTER people in those times.   In sorts, I would argue that this lie is promoted by the    natural Nazi collaborators, the eternal breed of bastards who will squeal under pressure but     then vehemently smear anyone who does not. If Nazis were in power now those people would have been their servants.   They   itch to get even with those who were so honorable. What amazes me    is that   my fellow- immigrants, predominantly Jewish equate those who exterminated the Jews and those who fought   against that barbarism   so easily.   They surrender themselves    as a lowly paid prostitute- right there, on the street.   I tried and tried to understand it and came to only one conclusion: they are whores, bitches, they always wanted to exercise that ability and the country of opportunity gave them that chance. They act as they are.    Nothing   new.

Ok, but maybe they have   a point? In both   real cases   in the 20th   Century ( Russia and Germany; I am not including   China as a separate case.)   we have    grim totalitarian regimes, militarization   secret police, torture, repressions, aggression,   suppression of the freedom of conscience,   hundreds of thousands    or even millions of victims,   perpetually   anemic economy, isolation and non- convertible   currency. In both cases we see eventual collapse. In both cases the people formerly   under   the regime seem not to   regret it at all.   So what's the difference?

The difference though becomes clear when we post the right question.   Both Nazism and   socialism are not   regimes. They   are   presented as  ideologies.   The regimes that used them were created by people.   We could argue that people both in Russia and in Germany,   the bastards in power could use the ideologies, any ideologies for their own goals and advantages, adapting the system   to the best way possible to serve their needs. We can a also properly state that   bastards are the same everywhere and   in that   aspect the similarities are striking. But   if we want to compare ideologies the only way to   somehow connect them to the practical   deeds of their followers is to find out if   those ideologies somehow encouraged   the bastards   in their malignant endeavors . And that's where the cookie crumbles; Socialism was the greatest obstacle to Stalin's atrocity; Nazism   was   a foundation for the Hitler's   abomination.

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Stalin hated social- democrats,     real communists and all other socialists. He    considered that   only He   was the interpreter of the new religion.   That's how he considered the result of the   efforts   of   the   generations of   humanists- just a tool. From Stalin's point of   view   socialism in Russia was a Lenin's gift to him. It stated tha t   there should   be a   temporary dictatorship of the working   class; the dictatorship   then it will be and as for the working class- He is   the class. It   stated that   communism would be the happiness of all mankind- great, Uncle Joe became the only vendor of happiness   and a prophet of   the future. He    sort of   decided to absorb the whole idea for himself, wanted to become a Grand Socialist, like   a Grand Inquisitor of   the new   religion of progress.    But socialism is a deeply anti-religious philosophy. That horrible contradiction   was the parent of the new monster, the Stalinism- something   like a werewolf of   socialistic   philosophy. Stalinism was a Mini-Me of Joseph Stalin and   his cronies and yes, it has a lot   in common with Nazism.

Both Stalinism and   Nazism are  thus not philosophies or even ideologies. Those are   the pre-imposed, artificial, very primitive pseudo-religious compendiums of statements.   Someone said about Nazism that its mother was stupidity and its father was   hate.     I would say that in case of Stalinism its father was fear and its mother was   power mongering. In both cases we see the one and only keen similarity- none of those   had anything to do with the people en masse. In both cases the anomalies were created to serve ONE individual only.    The idea was to create a potent poison to paralyze the   people on the way   to power, to make them food. In case of the Nazism the main component was superiority. .In case of Stalinism    it was faith, the   speculation on maybe one   and only feature of the Russian nation ( I mean here all nationalities) -- on its   faithfulness. Stalinism in this case was much more sinister- it was indeed a Devil praying to God; it   used the noble idea of socialism to   turn it on its head. Nazism   did not   have to do that. But it   also had to overcome the deep humanitarian   tradition of the German society and it   did it by appealing   to the pagan times. Only in paganism it could find   some   connection and only pagans could say, 'If Jesus was here he would follow the Furhrer'. Nazism effectively   distorted Christianity.   Stalinism effectively   distorted socialism .They fit each other   like two doppelgangers. In the fearful malice, in disregard of Roman Law, in endless immorality both anomalies were indeed very similar.

Yes, that's true. But   that's where it stops.   Socialism in its   simple and pure form   remained in Russia as the main power which resisted   Stalinism and eventually overcame it. That framework, those free education, free medical   service, free   access   to culture, predominant literacy, ideals of justice and fairness- all those things   effectively   were in fact the primary   obstacles on the way of Stalinism   and Stalin could not get rid of them that way new Russian rulers did now. Stalin in sorts   had to function in the permanently   hostile environment: the compulsive power monger had to   function in the   atmosphere which constantly rejected   him.   He had to spend more and more energy   on sustaining himself and his apparatus; the anomaly proved itself unnatural amd usustainable.

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The writer is 57 years old, semi- retired engineer, PhD, PE, CEM. I write fiction on a regular basis and I am also 10 years on OEN.


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is equating Nazism and socialism... by Mark Sashine on Monday, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:48:31 AM
I know a lot of things Mark, to paraphrase Clint E... by Jack Heart on Monday, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:53:28 PM
is there a difference in freedom for citizens? ... by Margaret Bassett on Monday, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:06:27 PM
Stalinism is. As for the restrictions  for th... by Mark Sashine on Monday, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:32:30 PM
to make up definitions? And what gives them the ri... by Daniel Geery on Monday, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:53:26 PM
I think most people clearly know the difference.&n... by bern on Monday, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:53:52 PM
You do not have to read this. If for some reason t... by Mark Sashine on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:19:58 AM
The compairson between Nazism and, say, Communism,... by Dar Gary on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:59:22 AM
And the comment above represents the lie we  ... by Mark Sashine on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:23:52 AM
Communism, by itself, is nothing more than an econ... by Maxwell on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:29:29 AM
but I would insist that the whole purpose of min... by Mark Sashine on Tuesday, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:28:50 PM