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Cindy Sheehan: Welcome back to Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox. I'm your host, Cindy Sheehan. Today as we tape, it's the five-year anniversary of when I camped out in Crawford, Texas, asking for a meeting with George Bush so I can ask him what noble cause he killed my son, Casey, for, and so many others. So today with the resistance to the wars for empire being so low, I thought I would bring on two models of resistance to talk about it. We'll be speaking with Ethan McCord and Jud Newborn today.

Ethan McCord was in the U.S. Army and he is seen in the WikiLeaks Collateral Murder video of an incident that took place in 2007 that was exposed a few months ago. Ethan is the soldier who was running with the children out of the van.

Ethan, welcome to Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox.

Ethan McCord: Thank you for having me.

Cindy Sheehan: Oh, it's such an honor to have you on. And your bravery on and off the battlefield is just very stunning to me, and I'm just really, really grateful that there are people like you in the world. And we recently became Facebook friends and I found out that you grew up in the same town, in our home town, Vacaville, California.

Ethan McCord: Yes I did.

Cindy Sheehan: Yeah, you went to the high school across town, our cross-town rival. You went to Will C. Wood and my kids and my son Casey graduated from Vaca High.

Ethan McCord: Yeah, we were pretty big rivals back then.

Cindy Sheehan: Yeah, it's mostly a, I think it's mostly a friendly rivalry, but anyway, Vacaville, if people don't like know, it's like in Central California, kind of like northern Central California between Sacramento and San Francisco, so I was really honored that you, you know another person comes from my town. I don't know about you, but I've been vilified in Vacaville. Have you had any feedback from our fellow Vacavillians about what you've been doing?

Ethan McCord: Just a couple of high school and people that I went to school with, but they've all been supportive.

Cindy Sheehan: Oh? That's cool.

Ethan McCord: Yeah, I haven't had anything negative coming from Vacaville, but then again I haven't been to Vacaville in probably 15 years.

Cindy Sheehan: Oh yeah. The Reporter used to regularly rake me over the coals. [laughs]

Ethan McCord: Well that's to be expected sometimes ________ [laughs]

Cindy Sheehan: Yeah. Well, Ethan, tell us about your experience. Like I introduced you and I told my listeners that you're actually in the Collateral Murder WikiLeaks video. I've only been able to watch bits and pieces of it. I haven't been able to watch the whole thing. But can you tell my listeners about your experience and, you know, exactly what you were doing that day, and what happened, and what you were going through? I think people have seen the video and they can see what you're going through physically, but what was your mental state and the emotions that you were feeling when it was happening?

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Cindy Sheehan is the mother of Spc. Casey Austin Sheehan, who was KIA in Iraq on 04/04/04. She is a co-founder and President of Gold Star Families for Peace and the author of two books: Not One More Mother's Child and Dear President Bush.

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