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One can only hope that discipline as mentioned by Hanno - in particular self-discipline - is afforded significantly greater attention. Authors note: A special thanks to my friends and colleagues, best selling author Vincent Bugliosi and OpedNews Managing Editor Cheryl Biren-Wright for their insight, support and collaboration on this article. 
The oddity here is that unlike those less fortunate innocents in war zones who faced the guns of hired aggressors, I was not in a war zone when I faced mine. I wasn't even in a high crime zone. I was in a gentle middle class suburb, where my aggressor, an armed Brinks, Inc. security guard, was in full combat-mode performing his non war-zone duty. My aggressor more typified the machismo of a Blackwater guard than the demeanor of community-minded Brinks, when he flailed his loaded gun at me, as though he'd done it often before. My armed Brinks aggressor was not merely disrespectful. He was downright hostile and dangerous. He treated me as his enemy and freely showed me his force.
Here's how it happened: On November 6th, at approximately 12:45PM on a sunny afternoon in Los Angeles, I walked through a parking lot en route to my neighborhood Albertsons market to pick up a prescription. I walked at my customary New York speed in a direct line to the market. I paid no mind to the Brinks armored truck to my right, as it waited alongside the store. The second I reached the store entrance, the uniformed Brinks guard emerged from the market with his gun outstretched, pointing in my direction. His face was turned away from his gun, leaving him unaware of my presence. Before I knew it, I'd walked right up to his gun, stopping inches before colliding. The suddenness of my stop thrust me slightly forward. I was so close to his gun that I saw its every groove - from its "sexy" color and shape - to its perfect fit in his hand. Its glimmer still glares in my mind.
Just then the guard turned and saw me and completely lost his cool. He flinched at my proximity just as I flinched at his. He became more aggressive despite my obvious fear. Instead of assessing that I was no threat and pulling back to allay my fear, he took the opposite tact. He became more aggressive and waved me off with his loaded gun, shaking it threateningly to move me away. I responded without hesitation, believing that if I hadn't, I might end up dead. In that one brief encounter, my entire 59 years of believing I was fearless evaporated in air. For the first time in my life, I experienced overwhelming, palpable fear and a vulnerability I'd never known.
I entered the market and went immediately to customer service to tell the Store Director what happened. I was clearly upset as I entered, as the store video would later show. Without going into further detail on what transpired in the store, let me just say that the Store Director at Albertsons couldn't care less. That part of my investigation is continuing, and has direct impact on why this article is being published today rather than closer to the date of the incident. Suffice it to say, Albertsons-Supervalu has steadily dropped the ball and is only fully coming on board now. Brinks, after all, is contracted by Albertsons. I'm Albertsons' customer - not Brinks'.
To be fair to this Brinks guard, and to those who work in armed security services, in my research for this article I've learned quite a bit about the mindset and dangers of being an armed guard. In fact, it's a highly dangerous profession, and in many ways, as underscored by a veteran LAPD officer with whom I spoke, more perilous than traditional law enforcement. In the realm of private security where guards are transporting items of value, attackers hit directly at them. This differs from traditional law enforcers who are commonly the pursuers and rarely the pursued. Thus Brinks guards and all private security who protect high value targets must be hyper-vigilant and aware of their surroundings at all times. In fact, numerous Brinks and other security guards have been killed and wounded on the job.
Nonetheless, as I've also learned in my research for this piece, Brinks guards have the option to unholster their weapons or to keep them in place as each situation demands. The guard who flailed his loaded firearm at me, unholstered it (as shown in the store video) and brandished it threateningly even though there was no imminent threat to his safety. His combat style over-zealous use of his weapon, his extreme edginess, and his failure to accurately gauge his surroundings, resulted in a near collision between me and his gun that could have easily ended my life.
Six weeks later, the investigation into this incident is by no means over. But to further postpone filing this report would be derelict on my part since any one of you, or your family, or your friends, could encounter a like situation where in a millisecond press of a finger, a combat-mode guard could extinguish you.
It's legal in California for a licensed private security guard to unholster his or her firearm if he or she perceives danger. Should the gun be unholstered, it must be pointed down. In my case, this gun was pointed toward me. At the time and date of my incident, no report of anything unusual in or around Albertsons was called in by this guard, or by his team, to the San Fernando headquarters where they're housed. Nor was anything out of the ordinary reported to the staff at the Albertsons before the guard left. The guard's clear view of the parking lot through the exit-way window which would have shown me approaching, along with the full view of the parking lot for the driver of the armored vehicle, indicated no impending danger. Yet this guard unnecessarily and dangerously withdrew his weapon and launched into full combat-mode. He entered the parking lot with a brandished loaded firearm and thus he endangered innocent civilians. I've said frequently since this incident occurred that I'm happy that civilian was me, and not a parent carrying a child, or a pregnant woman, or a small child running, or a fragile person with a cane. Any demographic is possible within the public square. But unlike most of those others, I have the wherewithal to scrutinize the situation and to attempt to illuminate the wrongs. 
(Photo of Albertsons corner where I encountered the guard, showing the guard's visibility to the parking lot through the exit-way window. The Brinks truck was alongside the wall of the building).
Unlike Albertsons-Supervalu, Brinks, Inc. took this matter seriously from the beginning - at least after I circumvented its delaying bureaucracy and went to the top. Within 40 minutes of the incident, I was on the phone with Richard Brager, Brinks Pacific Region Vice President, who provided the following written response nearly a month after the incident happened. I've also had several conversations with the direct supervisor of the aggressive Brinks guard. To date, I don't know the identity of the guard, nor specific details about him. Getting that information will require intervention by the court. I'm debating this action. However, I'm hoping Brinks will take the necessary steps to correct this behavior and remove this guard from service if the need be. From the behavior I witnessed, in a non-threatening environment, his removal is warranted. Since this incident, my personal sources at this Albertsons tell me the guards have not removed their guns. December 2, 2008
Ms. Linda Milazzo
Thank you for reporting your encounter with a Brink's crew at an Albertson's location serviced from our San Fernando facility. I want to first apologize for any concerns you may have had regarding the manner in which Brink's conducts its business. I want to assure you that we acted immediately to carefully investigate your report. Our investigation included interviews, a surveillance video review, procedural review and a management visit to the location in question.
Brink's position is, and has been, that our crews may carry their service weapon based on their individual judgment and threat assessment, but always consistent with state and local laws. Our expectation is that crews will act professionally at all times and will handle weapons with extreme care, consistent with our on-going firearms training.
I can assure you that we will reaffirm this position with our team in San Fernando as part of our follow-up into this matter with a goal of balancing our security responsibilities with an understanding of our perception and image with the general public.
Thank you again for your report.
Best regards,
Richard Brager
Regional Vice President
Pacific Region
I've stated previously in this article that the guard I encountered was in full combat-mode. Not surprisingly for the type of work it performs, Brinks is ranked #18 nationally in hiring former military. I support our former military and would like all returning vets to have good jobs. However, with the high number of vets returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), I question whether jobs requiring firearms are preferable without prior mental health evaluation. Below is a copy of the requirements for an entry level job opening at the same San Fernando Valley Brinks office where this aggressor guard works. One can see from the ad that skill requirements are minimal and no psychological testing is mandated. According to a representative from that San Fernando office, this advertised driver/guard position is the first step before becoming a guard. That same representative also told me several guards in that office are currently in the military reserves and are rehired between deployments. This is admirable of Brinks, however, I would again emphasize the need to comprehensively evaluate all returnees prior to assigning them jobs with guns. The guard I encountered was clearly over the top for the calm low crime environment he was in. The guard I encountered was, in my estimation, at war. Skills/Qualifications for an entry level Brinks Driver/Guard position:
Minimum qualifications include:
- Minimum of 21 years of age
- Able to pass a D.O.T. physical examination/drug screen
- Excellent driving history
- Able to obtain a Class-B D.O.T. Commercial Driver's License or other driver's license as required by local, state and federal regulations
- Able to lift 50 pounds
- Willing to work in an armed environment and able to qualify for a firearm permit
- History of working collaboratively with others
- Solid work history and credit record
- Strong ethics and integrity
Specific Job Duties:
- Maintain the safety, security and control of the armored vehicle at all times.
- Guard the Messenger during the actual delivery or pick up of valuables at a customer's location.
- Maintain radio communication with the Messenger and/or other vehicle crew and with dispatch personnel.
- Load and unload the armored vehicle.
- Complete appropriate driving/delivery documentation.
- Other duties as required.
As a supporter of our veterans, and without knowing specifically whether the aggressive Brinks guard I encountered is a veteran himself, I hesitated to make any military connections within this article. But considering that Brinks is ranked 18th nationwide in hiring former military, and considering that I was told by the San Fernando Brinks representative that there are many former military working there, I felt legitimized in making the analogy - recognizing that I am in no way asserting that my aggressor guard is himself a vet. I felt further justified in addressing potential military ties after a lengthy discussion with former State Department Diplomat and retired Army Colonel, Ann Wright. According to Colonel Wright, who has long been a champion for veterans' rights: "It is imperative that our veterans are protected from situations that pose a danger to themselves and to others, which could include firearms related jobs."
According to Brinks Senior Vice President of Human Resources and Administration, Greg Hanno, published in bnet Business Network: We seek members of the military for their skills, discipline, and confidence they bring to the company. Brink's is a natural choice for those with military experience. Our culture is defined by the same core values that define the military--integrity, honesty, respect and loyalty--and our job opportunities leverage the leadership, drive and skills often acquired through military service.
The Brinks Company was founded in 1859. In all likelihood, the majority of us have encountered Brinks guards routinely throughout our lives. I've seen Brinks as far back as I can remember and have never felt frightened - although I've made a concerted effort to steer clear of their path. But it wasn't until November 6th that I ever witnessed a guard's gun drawn in the performance of his job. For purposes of this article, I asked well over 100 people if they'd ever encountered a Brinks guard with his/her gun drawn. Only one person I questioned said yes - an LAPD officer stationed in the West Valley. In my calls to police divisions throughout Los Angeles - some in the most dangerous parts of the city - the police officers I spoke with, except for this one, all reported NEVER having seen a Brinks guard with his gun drawn. It does appear that the guard I encountered, who operated in the idyllic suburbs as though in the throes of war, was an anomaly. However, overly aggressive guards may become less an anomaly if untreated and undiagnosed veterans suffering from PTSD are hired for firearm use positions.
If you have ever encountered a Brinks or other private security guard in a non-threatening environment with his or her gun drawn, please state so in the comments - along with any details you are able to provide. I do suspect there are some who have witnessed this in more dangerous parts of the nation. If so, please indicate where.
As I mentioned earlier in this article, I believe that waiting 6 weeks after this incident to file this report was derelict on my part. As this nation moves further into financial decline, greater numbers of Americans will become more and more desperate. Crime is bound to increase. Armed guards, such as the one I encountered, will become even more edgy as REAL threat levels grow. In my suburban area of Los Angeles, where my gun encounter occurred, home foreclosures abound. Retail establishments are shutting down. Hard times are getting harder.
Over the past several years, Blackwater-style private security has flourished. Blackwater was in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also in New Orleans. With the incoming Obama administration, it is hoped that Blackwater will lose its stature and its contracts will lessen and lapse. Still the culture of the macho mercenary has grown. The Brinks guard I encountered exhibited that similar style bravado. We, as citizens, must work diligently to protect ourselves from abuse. I know I will. Run-ins with guns aren't that easy to forget. There's no place in our world for mercenary justice.
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I can definitly feel for your situation
I can definitly feel for your situation by Steven Roach (17 articles, 2 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 12 comments) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:57:33 AM  (0+)
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A sign of what could be up ahead?
"A new report from the U.S. Army War College discusses the use of American troops to quell civil unrest brought about by a worsening economic crisis. "The report from the War College’s Strategic Studies Institute warns that the U.S. military must prepare for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States” that could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse” or “loss of functioning political and legal order.” "Entitled “Known Unknowns: Unconventional ‘Strategic Shocks’ in Defense Strategy Development,” the report was produced by Nathan Freier.." Other links to this Report are here: by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:21:10 AM (0+)
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now what?
since we already have loss of functioning political and legal order due to BushCo, their policy of fear is trickling down. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Too bad for them, Americans are not scared of anything. But then, Bushco doesn't believe in America. The wheels.. grind slow, but exceeding fine.. Those who are not afraid of their own shadows don't need to be rich. But the rich have every reason to be scared. by martinweiss (41 articles, 6 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 503 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 6:25:02 AM (0+)
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Thirty-eight years ago in a different world I was a security
guard [not Brink's]. We had a closed van with 240,000 unsigned credit cards [$240 millions worth]. I was standing with a 30-06 rifle pointed at the ground. An approaching fellow went through the motions of drawing a weapon from the hip. I swung the rifle to aim at his feet. He opened his 'gunhand' and laughed like he had made a joke. Today, a normal citizen wouldn't dare make such a move. He has no civil rights. He remembers what Bill Clinton did in Waco and Seattle. If he is on the State Police list for being a Green Party member, he can wake up in Cairo with an electric cattle prod on his neck [read the comment on my diary 'Whistle Blowers and Other Endangered Species' at OEN]. Beware, dear lady, the beast is on the prowl. by Jason Paz (68 articles, 88 quicklinks, 112 diaries, 1384 comments [97 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:46:59 AM (0+)
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Reply: my experience with a Wells Fargo driver...
I was going to respond to Linda's article with a reminiscence of something that happened to me in 1971. I was driving back to Chicago from the East Coast, accompanied by my dog. My car broke down just off the Ohio St. exit and it was around 3 in the morning. It was the days before cell phones. I was a mile or more from my destination, the neighborhood was pretty seedy and not teeming with cabs or life of any sort. Thanks for writing and being so diligent about following up with them and not just sighing about 'the way it is' now. by Joan Brunwasser (206 articles, 3757 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 751 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:09:40 AM (0+)
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From fear to action
Thanks Linda for this compelling story. What I think is really important here is that you pursued this. What you've done is to take a look at the underbelly. A lot of good can come out of this. Anywhere from security companies taking another look at their policies on handling interactions with "civilians" to hiring practices, a public discussion of a distinct shift in times. Please keep digging and asking questions. I'm already ashamed of the way I handled - or didn't - a situation that I started to tell you about on the phone recently. I don't remember now if it was Brinks or another co., but my daughter and I were leaving a store and walking to our car. The two men had already gotten back into their truck and were backing up (quickly) between a row of cars. The driver was not looking at either mirror to see where he was going. Rather they were both peering out the passenger side window watching someone as the truck was moving. Couldn't tell if they were leering at an attractive woman or someone they thought was suspicious. But...there was clearly no concern for whatever person or car they might slam into - including us. Preoccupied with my own issues and need to rush home, I simply said "What a couple of [fill in the blank]." Thing is I already knew your story and how glad I was that you pursued it - and encouraged you to do so. Would have taken two minutes to write down the time, place and # on the truck, give the company a call and let them know the safety issues that were in play. The life many of us are living right now is overwhelming - rushing from job to job, struggling to make ends meet, etc. Bottom line, they got us where they want us. It's hard to fight for rights and a better life when you're fighting to keep your head above water. Take the time people - before it's too late. by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 41 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [7 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:41:53 AM (0+)
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how frightening for you Linda....
I'm sure you wake up from nightmares in a cold sweat remembering that incident. It seems "incidents" like this are happening all over the u.s. I myself have seen a black suv with no ID on it and simply a light placed on top of the vehicle pull over a driver on a busy highway. I thought maybe I was seeing things but both my kids confirmed they'd seen them too. There are hundreds of such actions documented on tape on youtube. The police state has already begun. When we have marines "assisting" police at checkpoints pulling over drivers and asking for id, it's quite evident. As someone else commented, they are training our troops to be used against the america people when the sh** really hits the fan. I'm just hoping the military, in the end, decide to respect the constitution and act FOR the people instead of against. Btw, Obama has already stated pre-election that "blackwater is getting a bad rap." by jersey girl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1201 comments [734 recommended, 12 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:54:06 AM (0+)
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The illegality of it
I'm not so concerned by the fact that someone walked into a gun as the fact that the gun was displayed illegally and so far nothing seems to have been done about it. The lack of discipline in the handling of a weapon leads me to think a G.I. Joe mentality is at work. This is dangerous, because this kind of behavior tends to be contagious among like minded individuals. It then is easy to form a business place mentality which becomes 'business as usual'. All at once we are 'accustomed' to accepting police state tactics. by DR (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 10 comments) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:55:21 AM (0+)
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Reply: Thanks, DR - to clarify on the legality of the gun
As you can see from the letter from Brinks, dislodging the weapon is at the discretion of the guard. California law states that armed licensed security guards can remove their guns when they deem necessary. The problem here is that it WASN'T necessary to draw the weapon. That's the point I continue to work on. He had the legal authority to have his gun out. He seems to have lacked the sensibility to know the gun didn't need to be drawn - and that drawing it caused a danger to the public at large - which I experienced first hand. That's what I continue to pursue. For the record, had I witnessed this happen to someone else, I would have gone immediately into journalist mode to report it with equal zeal. That it was me is not the issue. That it happened at all IS the issue. Thanks for your thoughts. Linda by Linda Milazzo (128 articles, 1 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 210 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:06:12 PM (0+)
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This story illustrates...
...the powderkeg of violence upon which we all live, unaware, in USAmerikkka. The Prison-Industrial Complex, the military, private "security firms" have all become big business in the US as everyone cowers to protect their "stuff." We will not be suppressed by the "government," but by millions of our "friends and neighbors" employed by the brute-force business... who carry deadly weapons just like a retail clerk carries a bar-code reader. The rent-a-goon in this story got spooked... realizing that for all his shiny toys you could have taken him out with a steam-and-dry iron. It will only take a spark of robbery-- accidental shootings... who knows? They cycle will begin... economically ruined "freelancers," real armed activists, or... as in the occupied territories... people who have lost family to dime-store mercenaries and have nothing more to lose... seeking easy revenge. The clock-punchers will not hesitate to open fire... so they can get to the end of the week and collect the "paycheck." It will not take polarization nor powerful ideology nor laws and infrastructure (although these are already in place) to operate a death camp in any mid-sized Amerikkkan town. It has always been pitifully easy to hire half the working class to kill the other half. Always remember that more than half of the people living around you would kill you without batting an eye. For about $10 an hour. by waldopaper (15 articles, 3 quicklinks, 34 diaries, 609 comments [84 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:07:57 PM (0+)
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This Example Shows
This example shows that it is *imperative* that ordinary citizens be allowed to keep and bear arms. First off it would make the job easier for security guards, since a person who had ideas of holding up these guards and stealing valuables would think twice. This would-be robber would not know who is carrying and who isn't, and even if they thought they could subdue the Brinks guards, they would have to worry about the presence of another armed person. Second, it would force the guards to be far more careful to avoid a situation like the one discussed here. A guard who behaved like that one did would have to worry about a bystander shooting him. This would encourage better judgement. More guns, less crime. See my blog at http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com by Alice Lillie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 72 comments [16 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:42:05 PM (0+)
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Reply: Miss AliceLillie -
If logic were an illness, you would be cured. If reason were food, you would be starved. Miss AliceLillie - I make it a point to be respectful of those who comment on this site, and on others. However, your illogical, unreasonable argument in favor of guns overwhelmingly proves that many who support them lack the good sense to own them. You, Miss AliceLillie, are proof. by Linda Milazzo (128 articles, 1 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 210 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 6:25:55 PM (0+)
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Reply: Linda, respectful of your ability to research ...
... you might want to check that where citizens are allowed to carry weapons crime has dropped considerably. Before being allowed to carry a weapon citizens must pass weapons training and evaluation. Believe that I'm sorry that we live in a world where guns are becoming as necessary as carrying a cell-phone (something else I'm not fond of, and perhaps just a dangerous, if not more so, giving they cause brain-tumors and car accidents), but after my experience with Katrina you better believe giving the choice of having or not having, I'd rather have. "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 7:57:35 AM (0+)
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Reply: Dear Alice
Do you have children? Wow, a good old fashioned shootout in Albertson's parking lot with parents and young kids in the line of fire. That's a helluva plan. by Cheryl Biren-Wright (30 articles, 41 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 485 comments [7 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 6:51:27 PM (0+)
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Sounds like an armed assault to me.
Sounds like an armed assault to me. You should have filed a criminal police report and filed suit against the company. by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:03:46 PM (0+)
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Reply: Yes, thank you.
This hasn't been ruled out. by Linda Milazzo (128 articles, 1 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 210 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:07:19 PM (0+)
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Paranoia (the guard, that is)
A psychologist who headed one of the floors at the Belleview Psychiatric Hospital in NYC told me: Could it be that this kid was scared, and therefore in "war mode" as you say, Linda? For the rest, I also shudder to htink that they are allowing those armed guards in at hours when people are there. This simply should not be, for the sake of everybody's protection, both the guards' and the peoples'. ALbertson's and Brinks should be sued. I don't think this *necessarily* is the practicing for martial law. Especially when one considers how few people have experienced this scenario, when asked to comment. I think the way we read into things, as cognitive processes, suggests mere possibilities but for *every* given situation, there are *many* possibilities to explain the same scenario. It *could* be the army's way of sneaking into the mainstream to practice for martial law, but I suggest it's much more likely former soldiers looking for a job and suffering PTSD as suggested here. Further, it could be that some of them are crazed by the love of violence (read much about soldiers whooping and cheering for blood-thirsty acts? The local paper in my area quoted the army generals training the soldiers to "kill, kill without mercy" and how the kids cheered. Unbelievable). Either way, it sounds like the kid needs serious help. I am SOOOOO Glad you are safe and sound, Linda, and soooooo commend your bravery in telling this story and bringing it to public light! by Kathryn Smith (110 articles, 2 quicklinks, 43 diaries, 542 comments [23 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 2:44:00 AM (0+)
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Reply: PS Linda is that okay with you? Let us know:
Would you want any of us to write Brinks and Albertson's, and to the newspapers? Anybody who does not help when a crime has been committed, or threatened to be committed, is surely helping to cover up such a crime/threat. Covering it up is as good as assisting a criminal, if you ask me. I don't know how this would stand up in court, as before. Something to ask about? Sounds like you are into this already, Linda: If so, bravo! I applaud and support. Hold people responsible for their wrong-doings! If we all do so, we will have a more moral world. by Kathryn Smith (110 articles, 2 quicklinks, 43 diaries, 542 comments [23 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 at 2:48:43 AM (0+)
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Thank you, Kathryn
As always you energize the conversation with strong plans for action. My hope is that others don't experience similar recklessness and bravado from private security. If you and other readers want to pursue Brinks and other entities to tell them your concerns, please do. Thanks so much for your energy and your desire to be of service. You're an inspiration. by Linda Milazzo (128 articles, 1 quicklinks, 18 diaries, 210 comments [3 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:26:59 AM (0+)
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