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Billionaires Are Dangerous to Humanity, Dangerous to the Earth

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It's been a while since I wrote an article on billionaires. I think about them almost every day, as I watch the news, as I go through cities like NY, Philly, DC and Chicago, so it's time for another article that brings some of my thoughts about them. 

-There are over 1400 billionaires identified on the planet, over 300 in the US. There are probably more who are purposely under the radar. 

-Billionaires are dangerous. There may be a small percentage who are good people with good intentions. That is not enough a reason to hold back from the calls by me, Thom Hartmann and others to make it illegal and impossible to be a billionaire. 

-billionaires are freaks of nature. In nature, giants are bizarre, freakish anomalies, and they don't survive long. Billionaires should be treated the same way. They are malignant symptoms of civilization. Before civilization, indigenous cultures would treat billionaires as hoarders who were insane. They'd even through them out of the tribe or force them to behave and share. For most of the millions of years humans and our predecessors have walked the earth, sharing-- what libertarians and right wingers call socialism-- was the way all living people lived. 

-No-one needs a forty or one hundred million dollar home. No private person needs to own a piece of art work that costs over one hundred million dollars. No-one needs a one or five hundred million dollar yacht, and there  is no business reason for owning one either.  When I see such displays of wealth, I am disgusted. We need to change our culture so that people who engage in such spending are treated the way people who wear fur are treated. We need to have street theater and messaging that tells the filthy rich that their spending is pornographic and despicable. Of course, we really need to change the unsustainable consumer culture that we have now. That's a bigger project, but part of what really needs to be done. 

From http://www.flickr.com/photos/23941628@N02/10463498423/: That's a private yacht, not a cruise ship, at Charleston marina!
That's a private yacht, not a cruise ship, at Charleston marina! by sailn1




-Even the good billionaires have so much wealth and power they are dangerous. Some people think that it will take billionaires to save us. Ralph Nader wrote a novel based on that idea. I was excited about  Ebay Billionaire Pierre Omidyar's plans to develop a new news business with Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill. I still am. They are brilliant, courageous, heroic people. But we can't get into thinking that billionaires will save us. We must embrace the ideas of Paulo Freire-- that we need to wake up the oppressed and help them to help themselves. Billionaires won't do it for us-- not George Soros, not Pierre Omidyar or anyone else. 

The likelihood that a billionaire is a sociopath is higher than in the general population. But even if a billionaire is not a sociopath, the power a billionaire wields to affect other people is far too great. In addition, billionaires share their power with a lot of people. Those people are also dangerous. Neutering billionaires, by taking away their money, will also de-fang their hench-people. 


-A lot of billionaires are criminals who believe they are above the law. Glenn Greenwald wrote about in his book, Liberty and Justice for Some. When I interviewed him, he told me,
"... we've created this kind of  shield of immunity for elites, we have built up the world's largest prison system and one of the harshest and most merciless systems of punishment for ordinary Americans and this kind of two-tiered justice system where you receive total immunity if you are an elite and commit crimes but extremely harsh and merciless punishment If you are an ordinary American, is really the antithesis of what the rule law was intended to be."
That interview was in October 2011. Things have gotten worse. The billionaire trolls have crawled out from under their platinum plated rocks and, with the freeing effects of Citizens United, throwing around their money to influence elections. Some of them do it in highly visible ways, like casino billionaire, Sheldon Adelson (the guy is a despicable idiot, but his worth, over $27 billion, makes him even more dangerous.) Others, like the Koch brothers, build multi-layered organizations and shell operations to cast a veil over their predations and mechanations. 

Someone should develop an on-line database on every billionaire-- a database that looks at how they attempt to influence and that looks at their commercial and political interests. Since much of the billionaires operations are done THROUGH their many corporations, databases like  opencorporates.com are valuable. if you know of others, please share them in the comments. 

Forget about the two corporate parties-- Democrats or Republicans-- doing anything to get rid of billionaires. A head on clash is not going to work. 

We need to develop strategies that undermine and erode he ability of billionaires to become billionaires and to stay billionaires. Here are a few:

No More Dynasties: One early step should be a campaign to end American dynasties--- by putting very high taxes on inheritances, so the children of billionaires are not allowed to inherit any more than a fraction, say $25 or $50 million, no matter how big the estate. The details and loopholes would have to be very carefully attended to. This would have to include stock in companies founded by the parents. We don't want or need more Waltons or Pritzkers. 

Discourage Bigger Companies: One way companies get bigger is they acquire other companies-- to get access to technologies or markets, for example. 
The USS must invest in developing business models that provide alternate approaches, so smaller companies stay independent, so bigger companies don't swallow smaller companies. Jobs are lost when companies merge. Why not pass laws that recognize this and encourage other ways to enable big companies to work with smaller ones?

Track Billionaire's Money Better: If a company has more than 50 or 100 employees it is subject to different regulations than smaller companies. Why not apply the same approach to the most wealthy people, who are far  more likely to attempt to hide their money, their income and their assets to avoid taxes.  If you have more than $10 or $50 or $100 million in assets, you are required to declare and make transparent what you have and where you put it. 

Publicize broadly any lawsuits billionaires are involved in: Elites and plutocrats usually use their powerful connections to get out of trouble. They get judges to silence critics and seal cases. Make it a law that the wealthiest people do not get special treatment, and, on the contrary their cases cannot be sealed. 

Tax Corporations for paying outrageous sums to execs: Tax corporations for amounts equivalent to executive pay for any salary or other forms of remuneration, including tax options, etc., over the pay rate the president of the US gets-- $400,000 a year.   So, if a CEO earns ten million a year, the company must pay taxes of $9.5 million. There are too many big corporations that are giving huge salaries to execs and paying no taxes. If they can afford to pay big pay, they can afford to pay taxes. 








 

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Amen to that Rob, this isn't class war-fare, this ... by anna kakol on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:09:21 AM
Rob,  think you have a basic misunderstanding... by June Genis on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:08:14 AM
My way out will always be for the workers to just ... by Michael Dewey on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:15:49 PM
It will be a great day when you can get two libert... by Charles Roll on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:37:03 PM
What you described as "sharing" is exactly what li... by Charles Roll on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:33:04 PM
Charles, What ever makes you think I'm opposed to ... by Darren Wolfe on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:38:40 PM
Ya sure! It's my bad.... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:36:06 AM
Yay! Somebody to be confused with. Thanks Charles.... by Daniel Penisten on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:21:18 PM
Actually, I never said (nor did I ever suppose) th... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:12:04 AM
Charles, libertarians are constitutionalists. ... by June Genis on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:22:28 AM
The general welfare clause is constructed so as to... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:46:26 PM
To promote the general welfare should be worked ou... by Michael Dewey on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:35:38 PM
June, with all due respect I have to disagree on t... by Darren Wolfe on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:53:30 PM
The Constitution "needs to go" -- so says the Anar... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:16:33 PM
Anyway, we can make changes under the Constitution... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:07:58 PM
Sorry, Darren.  I should have said MOST liber... by June Genis on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:38:23 PM
The Court in recent years has become so activist, ... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:14:48 PM
BTW: everyone was so distracted considering the us... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:51:11 PM
Charles, please stop hallucinating. You compared l... by Darren Wolfe on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:37:08 PM
Hallucinated, eh?All I was saying when I said let'... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:30:18 PM
I'll go with what June posted & then take it f... by Darren Wolfe on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:44:33 PM
Mr. Wolfe,This is really very good, very challengi... by Charles Roll on Sunday, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:31:54 AM
Maybe June will take this one. Being a good Object... by Darren Wolfe on Sunday, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:37:33 AM
No help from me.  I'm also an atheist and hav... by June Genis on Sunday, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:42:14 AM
I think we're starting to mix apples an oranges he... by June Genis on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:03:44 AM
What? You mean Ayn Rand wasn't a libertarian? I'm ... by Darren Wolfe on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:25:45 AM
Personally, I think it is a worthy goal for a stro... by Daniel Penisten on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:32:44 PM
Apparently you've never heard one of my favorite q... by June Genis on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:50:14 PM
Thank you for the response June Genus. It has help... by Daniel Penisten on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:16:33 PM
We The People have to learn to be Bison. The Wolve... by Daniel Penisten on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:32:27 PM
The Golden Rule is not libertarianism but its not ... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:49:21 PM
THAT -- the non-aggression principle -- is li... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:14:51 PM
I think all your examples are really example of ho... by June Genis on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:41:23 PM
That's the point. According to the dictionary, the... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:02:16 AM
Oh shuckydarn -- they've gotten to Webster already... by June Genis on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:22:29 AM
Charles, If sharing doesn't have to be voluntary t... by Darren Wolfe on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:29:10 AM
"orders aren't voluntary" ... well, gee, really? T... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:42:29 AM
At the very last of the first paragraph of the Wik... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:20:27 PM
Libertarianism is a political philosophy.  It... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:36:59 PM
I would say that an individual's concept of duty i... by June Genis on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:01:26 PM
"an individual's concept of duty is part of their ... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:32:11 AM
Sorry Charles but I really don't know anything abo... by June Genis on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:31:53 AM
I think your empathy for a victim just proves that... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:49:25 AM
In a libertarian society people can hold diverse s... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:52:22 PM
No one is promising you a rose garden.  Somet... by June Genis on Tuesday, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:11:16 PM
Ya sure! But what does that have to do with a rose... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:19:22 AM
Sorry, Charles the "rose garden" was a reference t... by June Genis on Wednesday, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:37:26 AM
For sure, we can agree that getting to the truth i... by Charles Roll on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:32:34 AM
Rob,I agree with you about billionaires being frea... by Howard Switzer on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:42:59 AM
Right on, Rob.  We should have high inheritan... by Ernie Messerschmidt on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:50:22 AM
Our problem is with the the very rich. We moti... by Hugh Jones on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:57:02 AM
Either get every country on Earth to join the mov... by Charles Roll on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:27:12 PM
"... The capitalists, or if you prefer, job crea... by Lance Brofman on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:58:21 AM
Yeah, seekingalph.com is a good source of informat... by Charles Roll on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31:49 PM
Giants among usI see these giant corporations (and... by Textynn N on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:14:30 PM
VERY well put!... by Charles Roll on Sunday, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:17:09 PM
It's the spiritual impoverishment of the rich that... by Nelson Betancourt on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:21:22 AM
Great statement, thanks... by BFalcon on Monday, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:40:33 PM
Brian Czech has written on this topic extensively.... by CASSE3 on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:23:28 AM
Sounds good but link not working, at least not for... by Charles Roll on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:37:31 PM
A position statement offered by Center for the Adv... by CASSE3 on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:24:51 AM
This link works!... by Charles Roll on Monday, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:48:05 PM
If we can spend 57% of our discretionary budget on... by Michael Dewey on Thursday, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:49:58 PM
I have not joined this conversation, but read it w... by Susan Lee Schwartz on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:02:00 PM
Thanks for thorough analysis, it was time for you ... by BFalcon on Monday, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:47:16 PM
You know when John Lennon wrote imagine all the pe... by Michael Dewey on Saturday, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:29:52 PM