Frederick: Yes, they were--
Rob: Now, that also was involved in the October Surprise that got Bush senior elected.
Frederick: Probably, I don't know specifically the details, or I can't easily recall them; but yeah, the kinds of spooky networks that gave us the October Surprise would certainly have been involved.
Rob: So, do you think, now that he's dead, that new surprises and disclosures about him will start to unfold?
Frederick: Yeah, very much so. There are active lawsuits between some of his senior associates and his children over control of pieces of the empire. And there are organizational coups, they're throwing each other out and they're suing to get back in, and stuff like that. So, already there's very interesting paper trails about who's got the money and where it went and those sorts of things. So, that litigation is ongoing and I'm sure we'll be seeing lots more.
Rob: Well, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on the show was to talk about fundamentalism in general. But first, I want to do a station ID. This is the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, WNJC 1360 AM out of Washington Township, reaching metro Philly and South Jersey; sponsored by OpEdNews.com . If you forget the name just Google (search) "liberal news" or "progressive opinion," and OpEdNews.com will come up first. It's not something you can buy, it's something you earn.
The show basically attempts to explore aspects of Progressive politics, and I call it the Bottom Up Radio Show, because I believe we're in a transition from a top down world that started when humans changed from a million years of indigenous tribal society to civilization, to a top down world. Now we're transitioning back to a bottom up world, that has been catalyzed by the internet.
Now, my guest tonight is Frederick Clarkson. He's a senior fellow at Political Research Associates. He's a longtime observer of the religious right, including Reverend Moon and it was the death of Reverend Moon the other day that inspired me to invite him.
Now, what I wanted to know from you, in terms of just a religious right in general, is to get an idea of top down religion versus bottom up religion. I remember back--was it the 60s or the 70s when Moon was pushing people in the United States--his Moonie followers, which I think they disappeared after awhile, at least in the U.S. Maybe I'm wrong.