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Multiple Israel False Flag Ops and How Supporters of Palestinians Fall Into the "Jewish" Word Trap

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Rob: It got me thinking, this idea of terrorists that we're okay with, that is it possible that there are terrorists like the ones that Israel are working with in Jundallah that are "okay" terrorists because they oppose what one nation opposes.  So, now your book is specifically about talking with Hamas and Hezbollah and that's going on, there are nations like Iran looks at Humas and I don't know much about it really but I know Iran funds them. So they would not be considered terrorists to Iran, that's really a major issue. A terrorist is only a terrorist if they're not your freedom fighter.

Mark: Yes, yes, we have to remember Nelson Mandela was condemned in this country for 25 years for being a terrorist and there really wasn't any question for many Americans that he was.  We now view him as a hero. I think it's possible for organizations, movements and political currents to change.  If people adopt Democracy, if they give up violence as a means to political ends, if they're willing to cooperate on the international stage, if they provide services to their constituents, none of which Al Qaeda, by the way does or Jundallah or the MEK, but if organizations are willing to do this in the mainstream then I think that we ought to talk to them.  But we also have to make it clear and I believe that my country has been very consistent on this. We will not support a group that targets civilians for political purposes and I think that maintaining that principal is important.  

Rob: Like Mossad?

Mark: Yeah, I think that Mossad's attempt to recruit Jundallah was a mistake and is recruiting a foreign terrorist for political purposes and it is subverts the principals that the United States stands for.  of principal that [inaudible]

Rob: I wish we had more time, I know you've got to go to talk to the Pentagon.  

Mark: I do.  

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Rob: It's been great information, this is the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, I've been talking to Mark Perry, author and historian, intelligence analyst, author of Talking To Terrorists.   The show is sponsored by  Thank you Mark.  It's really been a great interview; we've got to have you back.  

Mark: Thanks Rob anytime, you know that.  I appreciate it. It was a great interview.  

Rob: Thank you.  Bye bye.  

Mark: Bye.  

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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