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March 3, 2008 at 01:19:17

The Pitfalls of the Antiwar Movement in America

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If only the antiwar movement could develop a strategy that would move America incrementally further away from the failed state is in today, than perhaps Americans could be less cynical, less fearful, and more positive about the future of America and also, the world. 

One can only hope that with the upcoming Winter Soldier hearing by the Iraq Veterans Against the War the antiwar movement will find its footing so that it can coherently and effectively push us closer to the end of our expedition into Iraq and push us closer to the removal of our Supreme Court-elected president and vice president whom the public cannot seem to be bothered to oppose too much for fear of muddying up a public election of hope and change and historic importance.

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Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral system, its military-industrial complex, its foreign policy of American exceptionalism, its media which has become the Fourth Branch of government,etc.)
His ambitions have him currently organizing and raising money for a Chicago Conference for Media Reform in April or May of 2009. It will be organized by college students to promote youth involvement in media reform and justice. Those interested in attending or helping with the organization of the program should contact him.

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Most importantly, a concerned and involved American.

James StraitHost of "American Voices" radio-Wednesdays 7-8PM Eastern & Co-Host of popular "Strait & Kall"radio programming- Thursdays 8-9PM Eastern, airing on WNJC1360 in the Philadelphia Pennsylvania radio market(live internet stream www.wnjc1360.com);

Frequent guest/co-host on "Voice of the Voters" radio.

Most importantly, a concerned and involved American.

It's a Trend thing...

Kevin, you are young and quite thoughtful. Thoughtfulness is part of your DNA just as aggressiveness is part of Americas. With age you will come to terms with the reality that our species is aggressive by nature...survival is in our DNA...and survival is messy.

The good news is that when you pull back and view mankinds progress through a long lens, the trend is in the direction of civility...but social evolution happens at a snails pace. It is all about ebb and flow, two steps forward one step back.

Thus, if you desire happiness during your short tour on planet earth, find satisfaction in the direction and pace of the trend, because the here and now will typcially depress you to no end.

 

by James Strait (39 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 191 comments) on Monday, March 3, 2008 at 8:08:19 AM
 


Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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Kevin GosztolaKevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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I have no unrealistic expectations

I do realize that we are a species who lives to survive. Don't all species live to survive?

But, I do have a problem with a group that wants to further advance civility yet cannot come down from the pedestal they put themselves on. 

The antiwar movement is so idealistic that it kills any chances of success. I wish they could spend some time designing a plan for action and stick to the ideology or message they come up with and continue forward sticking up for the future of America.

Thanks for your comment. As I read more and more Chomsky, I realize how much better America has gotten since the 60s. 

by Kevin Gosztola (187 articles, 96 quicklinks, 63 diaries, 771 comments) on Monday, March 3, 2008 at 10:25:44 AM
 


Hater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired
John HanksHater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired

War is the heart of the state.

Liberals and other anti-war activists pay their taxes.  They are morally just as bad as any hit man.  I am not proposing that they improve their personal morals by not paying taxes, which is just vanity.

They must learn the real history of wars as a form of organized crime.  The Iraq war brings it all into sharp relief.  The "pleasures" of militarism are the real enemy.

 

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1029 comments) on Monday, March 3, 2008 at 12:36:19 PM
 


impeachment for congress, house and president
Tri 'cat' Oxtailimpeachment for congress, house and president

World Against War

The antiwar movement is strong and organizing fast. There's going to be an antiwar protest held in a few weeks that will be the largest in history of human history. Still have yet to read a single blurb about it, but yet the people know...How did the movement organize this many countries and places? http://WorldAgainstWar.org

The world is treading on thin ground and the people are upset

by Tri 'cat' Oxtail (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 15 comments) on Monday, March 3, 2008 at 5:05:10 PM
 


It is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.
Jeanette DoneyIt is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.

There is no anti-war movement

I am convinced that any protest or event against the war is organized by people who are connected with politicians.  They do the speaking, and do you notice that there is always something else they talk about?  I went to see Media Benjamin to hear her talk against the war and occupation, and she talked about how we need to support the immigrants.  I went to see Ann Rice talk, and she talked about how corrupt our government is, Alexandre Cockburn.  Cindy Sheehan talked about Pelousi.  Ralph Nader talks about corrupt corporations, Ron Paul and Kucinich talk about the US Constitution being corrupted, but none of them tour the country organizing a peace movement or an antiwar movement.  They are not recruiting leaders or help.  And if you approach them and say, "I want to help you end the war".  They have something to sell you, be it a book or a pink tee shirt, and their advice to you is always: keep sending money.  We are being entertained.  Some entertain better than others.  That's all.

Meanwhile, I believe that the world sees us sliding down a slippery slope for all the reasons those we would have as peace leaders say, but they are really the ones to blame because they refuse to unite with each other, and if those we revere as peace leaders will not unite...how can we?  They have connections.  I don't.  You?  There it is.

 

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 at 7:18:41 AM
 


Kevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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Kevin GosztolaKevin Gosztola goes to Columbia College in Chicago where he is studying film. He hopes to become a documentary filmmaker. He is currently working as a production assistant on a documentary called "Seriously Green" which traces the development of the Green Party throughout the 2008 election. He has a passion for journalism and writes articles or press releases in his spare time. Kevin Gosztola is also a student activist who believes in questioning the way America's systems work(its electoral sys...

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The Chicago AntiWar Rally on March 19th

The leaders who are organizing this have set a standard that all antiwar groups should uphold.

 All the speakers at the rally will not be politicians. It's something to think about. Not even Green Party politicians or Socialist politicians are being allowed to speak.

UFPJ, ANSWER, and even World Can't Wait with it's RCP connections are detrimental to the movement because people can never just organize to fight the war and are instantly looking past their victory wondering what they will do to stop Democrats, Socialists, and Communists after the war and occupation has ended.

Don't even think about letting Libertarians in on the antiwar movement! You might as well be Bushites from the White House.

It's terrible. But I see some improvement with the organized rally and march because we are addressing one key point of "truth":

Unless a movement of people opposed to war and occupation exist in America that is powerful enough to cost politicians their jobs, powerful enough to cost corporations who are part of the military-industrial complex, and powerful enough to reach all the people that do not normally participate in antiwar actions, we will never be able to get this country to a point where it can elect good and decent politicians like Kucinich, Paul, Nader, and Gravel.

by Kevin Gosztola (187 articles, 96 quicklinks, 63 diaries, 771 comments) on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 at 10:10:24 AM
 


It is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.
Jeanette DoneyIt is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.

The only Party I ever belonged was Libertarian

The best peace blogg is www.antiwar.com, which is liberatarian, and Ron Paul rEVOLution wouldn't have come this far if it wasn't for the Libertarians.

 

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Friday, March 7, 2008 at 9:12:38 AM
 


impeachment for congress, house and president
Tri 'cat' Oxtailimpeachment for congress, house and president

Jeanette Doney

Cynthia McKinney talks about antiwar

thats why you never here her in the media... I remember hearing from a McKinney supporter write in his personal blog;

"When Cynthia gets elected, there will be the largest paper shreading campaign and a mass exodus of war criminals escaping to far off countries from Nov to Jan 21 2009" https://www.mckinney2008.com

I hought it was funny at first than thought damn, he's right

by Tri 'cat' Oxtail (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 15 comments) on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 4:47:24 PM
 


impeachment for congress, house and president
Tri 'cat' Oxtailimpeachment for congress, house and president

thanks Kevin

thanks

by Tri 'cat' Oxtail (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 15 comments) on Thursday, March 6, 2008 at 4:48:37 PM
 


It is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.
Jeanette DoneyIt is never the masses that make the difference, it is always the individual which makes the difference. Thank you for letting me be myself today.

I'm Not A Green by CHOICE thank you

I'm sorry Cynthia McKinney didn't take that capital security guard to court for coming up behind her and touching her.  He deserved to be belted in the face with a cell phone.  He should have been protecting her, not attacking her.  He should have called secutiy within the building to approach her, not come up behind her...whatever..she didn't stand up to a cop, how in hell is she going to stop the war?  That said, IMO the Green Party is a gatekeeper to the Democrat Party.  Nader built the Green Party and they can kiss off after what they did to Nader in the name of GREEN PARTY.  Thank you for your kind offer.

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Friday, March 7, 2008 at 9:19:48 AM
 

 

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