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October 27, 2008 at 17:42:50
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Kall: You know, you've talked about him being--engaging in brinkmanship and in wild, crazy kind of behavior, how do you think that would translate into his functioning as a president? Butler: Well, that's a problem I have. Like I said, I really respect him and I have to say that I like him very much. He's a funny guy if you're ever around him, he's got incredible wit, he's funny, he's likeable; if you're with him for a few minutes, you're immediately going to like the fellow. Kall: Yeah, the guy you'd like to have a beer with-- or a couple. Butler: Yeah, exactly. "To have a few drinks with, and interesting…but for me, the only problem I have is that electing a person to be the President of the United States of America falls into a whole different category. It obviates anything like a former friendship or a former liaison or partnership, or family member or anything else; it has to be somebody with special qualifications. I don't see that John has those qualifications; he has a personality that concerns me were he to become president of the United States. 
And the other thing is that it's not just his military service, but what has John done, how does he actualize, how does he take lessons from his military service in terms of how he sees the world today, and I think it's all wrong; I think his lessons from Vietnam are all wrong; he's helped lead us right back into another Vietnam in the Iraq War.
He's a bellicose kind of a guy, he's aggressive, he's a black and white thinker. He doesn't see nuances, just like George Bush doesn't see nuances; he thinks that things are black and white.
He does his campaigning-- the other day he was being interviewed asked a couple of questions, and he answered, "yes, yes and no." and then everybody clapped, but that's the wrong kind of thinking than we want in the President of the United States; we want somebody who sees the complexity of the World Order.
Kall: I'm curious. In his role in the Navy. Did he ever play a role as a leader?
Butler: When he came home, I understand that he was the Commanding Officer of a training squadron, a replacement aircraft squadron on the east coast; I believe that it might have been in Jacksonville, but in that squadron he was a squadron commander. And I understand that he was well thought of as a squadron commander. But there again, that job doesn't translate to President of the United States.
Kall: What's it involve being a squadron commander?
Butler: It's like being a CEO. They probably had multimillions of dollars worth of aircraft and supplies and material goods under his command and maybe a couple of hundred people, so it's tantamount to the military version, if you could draw somewhat of a comparison to being a CEO.
Kall: Of a medium sized company, maybe.
Butler: Yes, I would say so.
Kall: and his reputation was that he did a decent job there.
Butler: I heard that; I wasn't there to see or hear; I'm on the west coast, but I heard that he was pretty well received.
Kall: And before, you mentioned that he had a couple of crashes or accidents before he was captured?
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Thank you, Rob.
Thanks for getting this interview! I'll post this on my little blog in a bit. . smithonpolitics.com by Nicholas Smith (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 10 comments) on Monday, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:32:28 PM  (0+)
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Hard to believe
My niece graduated from the Naval Academy, as did her husband and both are officers and have served in Iraq. They are so proud of the Academy and everything they were able to learn there - it is a part of who they are now as people. It is hard to imagine that anyone who graduated from the Naval Academy could have any respect for the way McCain treated this amazing opportunity (paid for by us, the taxpayers) as a joke. It certainly says something about his character and the difference between really working for it and being the Adm. son. by Laurianne Manchester (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Monday, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:50:53 PM (0+)
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it's the ability to see nuances
that defines the differences between the candidates of the major parties. Seeing the complexities is almost a definition of "liberal", and is something tested on IQ tests, and what got Al Gore in trouble with his well thought out answers. Simple minds long for simple answers, and the fact that his base cheers McCain's yes, yes, no, says something about them also. People who are afraid or abused also long for definite, swift answers and leaders who give them. Is McCain stupid, or abused? It's not clear, but you can bet that the Neocons and power elite are not stupid and hope to have a front man--or woman-- like Bush, whom they can control. May we not become so afraid that we go for the simplistic, hair trigger answers and leaders who claim to have them. by MJ Creech (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 24 comments) on Monday, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:24:58 PM (0+)
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wow
this is insane. how does anyone have any support in a man who used his silver spoon fed privileges to try to break every rule in the book at school! Rob, thanks a lot for this interview.. I wish we could get a little more publicity on this. I don't want another D+ student in the white house by Jeremy Nino (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Monday, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:29:50 PM (0+)
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Fighter Pilots in General
When I was in the patrol bomber VP Navy during the Vietnam era, I learned that fighter pilots were not wanted by civilian airlines because of their hotdog tendencies. A B-52 pilot friend of mine feels the same way about fighter pilots from his Vietnam experiences. They are picked to fly fighters because of their aggressiveness and he would never vote for one for president. Basically, you can be so good at one job that it disqualifies you for another. Considering the fact that other fighter pilots considered McCain to be wild says a lot. by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:15:04 AM (0+)
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This solidifies
and confirms my gut feelings about Mccain and why I won't vote for him, either. He's a scary little man who is becoming more and more maniacal and illogical as this too long presidential race grinds on. I believe he has PTSD that is coming out from the stress of campaigning. Thank you, Rob, for posting this interview. by Hope Hofmann (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 17 comments) on Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:27:40 AM (0+)
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Contrarian or maverick?
The interview with CDR Butler points up an important difference between being a contrarian and being a maverick, McCain style. A contrarian is a person who sees things that others miss – opportunities, connections, or relationships they fail to apprehend or dangers they overlook. Warren Buffett is a good example; so is John Maynard Keynes. A maverick is one who goes his own way just for the sake of being different, flouting orthodoxy or conventional wisdom, or flaunting his independence. “I am a force to be reckoned with,” says the maverick. Successful contrarians have a track record of being right much of the time. In the end, such people often become known as visionaries. Mavericks don’t have to be right; they just have to be different. In the end, such people often become known as jerks. by Richard Wise (35 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 88 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:03:05 AM (0+)
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