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Rob Kall Speaks to Veteran of "COLLATERAL MURDER" Company WikiLeaks Reported

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Unlike other Rob Kall Radio podcasts, this is going live as a podcast, since the next terrestrial radio show is not for five more days. This show was produced by and with the help of Cheryl Biren.

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Josh Stieber, a former U.S. Army Specialist, is speaking out. A member of the Bravo Company 2-16 whose acts of brutality made headlines this week with the Wikileaks release of the video "Collateral Murder," Stieber says such acts were not isolated incidents, but were commonplace during his tour of duty. "After watching the video, I would definitely say that that is, nine times out of ten, the way things ended up," says Stieber. "Killing was following military protocol. It was going along with the rules as they are."




"Collateral Murder" provides footage from an American Apache helicopter involved in a July 2007 shooting incident outside of Baghdad that left over a dozen people dead, including two Reuters employees. Stieber was not present at the scene, but knows those who were and is familiar with the environment. "A lot of my friends are in that video," he says. "If it shocks and revolts you, it shows the reality of what war is like. If you don't like what you see in it, it means we should be working harder towards alternatives to war."

Stieber is a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War working to promote peace and seek alternatives to combat. He currently resides in Washington, D.C



Josh told me that the horror and disgust over the words and behaviors of the soldiers involved in killing the Reuters photographer are misplaced because they were doing what the system wanted them to do.  He suggests that our challenge is to not question the men but, rather, the system and policies that created them. He's suggesting that the self-righteous indignation currently being aimed at the soldiers who did the shooting should be aimed at the leaders, the policies and values that the US has established for training soldiers.

We talked about the training, the trophies, the awakening he went through.

He blogged about his take on this as well, here.

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Isn't it clear to everyone by now by Nick van Nes on Friday, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:52:52 PM
I absolutely agree with Nick by Maxwell on Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:06:05 AM
The Great Divide by Steven G. Erickson on Friday, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:04:16 PM
background noise by Don Smith on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:50:55 AM
Sound Criticism by Maxwell on Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:17:02 AM
Get Real by CRGrizzle on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:03:34 AM
Ugh. cynicism wrapped in paranoia, wrapped in the big.... by Rob Kall on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:55:19 AM
to kill a mockingbird by Ned Lud on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:19:32 AM
Ugh what????? by CRGrizzle on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:55:57 AM
I Feel Better That Josh Confirms My Suspicion by James Hadstate on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:46:43 AM
Who's to blame by Don Smith on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:36:42 AM
Rob Kall speaks to Steiber etc by syed mahdi on Saturday, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:51:10 AM
Just shoot in a general direction, was the rule, said Josh. by Christopher Rushlau on Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:35:09 AM
Why is this war happening? by JK on Sunday, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:05:29 AM
Alternatives to War by Maxwell on Monday, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:58:07 AM