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This is NOT the way to get Bernie Elected: Subset of Supporters Using Hostile Tactics to Drown Out Critics

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Working Families Party Endorses Warren OVER Sanders The Working Families Party endorses Elizabeth Warren over Bernie Sanders. Ana Kasparian and Ben Burgis break it down on #NoFilter. tyt.com/ana ...
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(Above all, I want to see Bernie win and have for the past five years: I absolutely don't want this sort of thing to mushroom or go uncorrected or unadmonished, so that is why I am making this article now. I welcome responses from all quarters.)

This article is extracted and lightly edited from KTLA coverage of the campaign, a Los Angeles TV station:

After Working Families Party endorsed Warren, Sander supporters responded angrily on Reddit for days. One Reddit member (of which there are 300,000) suggested Sanders supporters should spy on WFP activities and organize counter events.

On Twitter, Sanders supporters hurled hundreds of critical messages at WFP and its leadership, calling them "shameless," "corrupt," and "bloodless scumbag hacks." One even lobbed the insult that "slave masters" had forced the support of the party's African American national director.

3 days later, a WFP spokeswoman shared a screenshot of one message that wished she and her colleagues would "all get cancer you are f**king trash." She said they received private messages saying "eat sh*t and die" and "drop dead dumb c*nts."

As Sanders surges as a top contender in the 2020 presidential race, such online harassment has become a source of derision among the Vermont senator's critics who say his campaign's success on social media is undermined by trends of bullying within subsets of his followers.

[This is quite serious and the top levels of Bernie's support staff MUST take action to prevent any more of this!]

We know very well that Facebook groups and other social media are and will continue to be full of angry and controversial remarks.

Across the political spectrum, posts ranging from witty snark to harassment and abuse can be found by any candidate's supporters. Speaking to this reality, some digital media experts say the level of hostility in pockets of Sanders' online following outweighs that within the social media circles of his Democratic rivals.

Days after Sanders announced his bid last February, he condemned bullying in an email to his campaign representatives and encouraged them to "engage respectfully." But since that time, throngs of his Internet supporters have shunned that approach and continued to use ad hominem tactics to advocate for their preferred candidate.

More than 12 users of social media spoke to CNN about their experiences with bullying by Sanders supporters.

They described threats against family members, the creation of imposter accounts that resembled their own and what some described as being "swarmed," where barrages of vitriol filled their Twitter feeds and inboxes for days after they posted something critical of Sanders.

"I had never experienced that level of aggression before," said Patty Kasbek, a veterinary technician in Oklahoma who said she criticizes President Donald Trump on Twitter more than any other political figure but said she faced the most hostility after she accused Sanders of being misogynistic. She said she received messages such as "STFU" and "eat this" poop emoji, among other insults.

Two other targets said they were so tormented by the online attacks they faced following their public questioning or criticism of Sanders that they requested those specific circumstances not be reported for fear such harassment could start up again. Both said Sanders supporters exposed their addresses, shared their personal photos and spread information about their relatives and work colleagues.

Sanders has personally intervened in some cases: for example, when health care activist Ady Barkan, a health care activist with A.L.S. endorsed Warren, he was deluged with negativity from members of Sanders supporters, some accusing him of selling out or being so affected by his disease that someone else must have made the endorsement decision for him. Sanders tweeted support for Barkan amidst the outrage.

In the case of the Working Families Party's Warren endorsement, the organization's staffers openly complained that they had been threatened. More than 100 African American leaders then signed a letter that said the party's leadership had been attacked by self-identified Sanders supporters with words including "Uncle Tom" and "slave."

While the backlash also included sincere questions about the Working Families Party's policy positions and demands to see the vote tallies behind the endorsement, the scale of the harassment led Sanders to tweet, "This campaign condemns racist bullying and harassment of any kind, in any space."

In a statement to CNN, the Sanders campaign's deputy communications director, Sarah Ford, said, "The senator has said loudly and clearly, there is no room in the political revolution for abuse and harassment online."

 

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I know is a very serious matter and must be addressed across the board by Bernie supporters all over the nation. I find it all very shocking and completely removed from the Sanders supporters I have been dealing with.


In a collegial setting, you don't come crashing down on anyone who in good faith and in good conscience supports someone else.


To do so is terribly shortsighted, because it weakens our responses when we do object to things that deserve being objected to, the real problems, not the temporary disappointments. There is too much at stake to be silent about this, or to "not give it oxygen."


Warren is pulling her ads in South Carolina and Nevada:




Searching For A Win, Warren Pulls TV Ads In Nevada And South Carolina | The 11th Hour | MSNBC After a loss in Iowa and the polls in New Hampshire show her trailing, what is Elizabeth Warren's way forward in the 2020 campaign? We talk to our Ali Vitali.
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I have to think that the Hiliary task force is behind the ugly retorts and stalking to make Bernie look bad. I have seen remarks complaining about rabid Bernie supporter bothering people.I don't think that is true. Every Bernie supporter on my facebook page who supports Bernie, most of my friends, are civil in discussions. The establishment Democrats have lots of money to smear Bernie and Tulsi like they did in 2016. David Brock received millions to infiltrate article comments, twitter and facebook to bully Bernie supporters and start false rumors and shut down discussions. Brock even posted porn on Bernie's support groups during a webinar.

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I think you are thinking Casey Charbonneau posting the porn. I wrote about this in fact on OpEdNews:


https://www.change.org/p/facebook-indict-casey-champagne-for-distribution-of-child-pornography?recruiter=218344&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_term=des-md-no_src-custom_msg&recuruit_context=fb_share_mention_control&fb_ref=Default


All of this proved to be devastating, since Facebook shut down so many major Bernie group sites the night before six primaries. It was awful and I will never forget that ghastly chain of events, from Hillary's social media educator.


I would not give this news item a second thought except it was on KTLA, a big LA TV station, and, sad to say, it has the ring of truth to it. There have been some examples of similar rabid behavior behind MANY candidates, but all of this should be admonished and prevented by strong words from each candidate, especially from Bernie.



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I agree. It may be that some or much of this bullying comes from a "false flag", but it's important that the campaign investigate the allegations thoroughly, get to the bottom of it, and put a stop to it. It shouldn't be ignored, because, if true, it's both very bad strategy and unethical. Not investigating would be bad strategy also. Hopefully the remedies can be done without themselves giving more "oxygen" to the story.

By the way, I read Breitbart, and I know they just love it when they can find a Bernie volunteer or campaign employee who talks about not adhering to election results, or sounds potentially violent, or anything like that. And whatever one thinks about Breitbart, they don't seem like dummies to me, leading me to think that if Breitbart likes a story about Bernie, it's probably not good for Bernie. (Not that we need Breitbart to tell us that, in this case.)

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All the more reason to nip it in the bud, and to discipline our own.


Also, somehow I doubt very much that the TV station in LA would report specious nonsense, and further, some of thoase folks showed screen shots, etc.

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Maybe Casey Charbonneau was working for Brock.

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I can't answer that but I do encourage you and other interested readers to read this definitive article from Paste Magazine:


Bernie Sanders' Largest Facebook Groups Faces Attack

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https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/clintons-internet-supporters-allegedly-using-porno.html



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I am watching Katie Halper and Matt Taibbi on "Useful Idiots", the Hill, on 2/07/20 talk to Lee Fang from the Intercept about outside influences on the elections which is quite enlightening explaining how huge money is controlling democracy, or lack there of. At the 1:15 time stamp there is a discussion about private firms attacking people or ideas en masse to change opinions during this campaign season. The work is very profitable for those who don't really care what effect their toxic broadcasting has on the country. The interview with Lee starts at the 56 minute point. Money controls everything. .youtube.com/watch?v=JQCnw5GaPQY&t=4408s

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