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Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Troy Price said, 'We are confident in the security systems we have in place.'

I am not so sure, nor do I so sanguinely accept those kinds of assurances, given the larger picture of Tom Perez stacking the DNC committees with Clinton apparatchiks and Wall Street consultants. However, just because Mook was HRC's campaign manager in 2016 doesn't mean the whole matter is one of incarnate evil, voting machine manipulation, changing votes, vote flip chips, etc. But do read on, please:

From the Wall Street Journal:

Democrats will record the votes from the Iowa presidential caucuses in less than a week using a smartphone app, a procedure that has stirred questions about security. Party leaders said that the mobile app makes it more efficient to report results from 1,700+ caucus sites.

However, critics expressed grave concern about the app's reliability in the context of warnings that cyber adversaries trying to disrupt the 2020 elections.

Democratic Party officials say they have systems in place to detect and prevent intrusions, but declined to provide details over whether the app had been subjected to open-ended vulnerability testing. They also declined to disclose to MSNBC which company developed the app. By contrast, in 2016, Microsoft developed an app used at that year's caucusby both parties, and its involvement was announced months in advance.

Some security experts took issue with that approach. "The argument the party is using is effective at preventing public oversight, but it's not effective at protecting against" cyber threats, said Mr. Jones, the election-security expert.

In Iowa, multiple caucus organizers said in interviews that they liked the app because it was convenient.

Ms. Crist, a longtime Democratic organizer, said that she was confident about the system and that fears about hacking were overblown. "People are making much ado about nothing," she said.

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From the Washington Post:

Defending Digital Campaigns was founded by Robby Mook, Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign manager, and Matt Rhoades, Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign manager. They offer campaigns free and discounted cybersecurity services. The nonprofit organization, which acts as a clearinghouse between campaigns and the companies, announced recently that it broadly expanded its industry partners to include tech heavyweights such as Microsoft and Cloudflare.

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Part of the security procedures put in place for 2020 include caucus goers getting a physical, numbered presidential preference card for recording their choice, which then will be delivered to the Iowa Democratic Party through an "established chain of custody."

The Iowa Democratic Party and the Republican Party of Iowa partnered with Harvard University's Defending Digital Democracy Projectat and the Belfer Center, which develops and disseminates playbooks on best practices for the administration of elections, to help protect the caucus.

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If you want to learn enough about election security to actually how complex it is and how little all of us really know, please watch this film, UNCOUNTED, THE NEW MATH OF AMERICAN ELECTIONS.


Then ponder why the Wall Street Journal, nominally and partially representing Wall Street and American billionaires, would take such a lead interest in this developing matter. Too often, we find out the truth TOO LATE.



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Hello Stephen,

Democracy Counts is a nonpartisan tech company that has developed "same-day election audit apps to empower volunteer citizens to protect elections, in spite of the inaction of Congress and state governments."

I have written two articles about this effort for OpEd News. I also conducted a brief interview with Dan Wolf, the founder, at Democracy Chronicles.

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Democracy Counts is already working with Citizens Audit of Broward, in Florida, where I live.

Folk can learn more at: https://democracycounts.org/

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Steve:


Please check out my reply to Jerry Policoff about newspapers. I could make the very same recommendations to you: start talking to Editors; maybe they will recognize this kind of red flag, also?

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Hey Stephen,


Democracy Counts is reaching out to journalists in the 2020 battleground states. DC is also contacting college newspapers and students who belong to Democratic and Republican clubs on campuses in the swing states.


Can Democracy Counts help Bernie? What do you think?

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Yes, absolutely. Thanks for the tip. Would you like to send them this article, please?


I wonder why The Intercept and Common Dreams for example haven't been all over this story by now?

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Thanks, Stephen. I will forward all of this to the Democracy Counts folks. And thanks for the suggestion that The Intercept and Common Dreams are great media contacts.

I've been volunteering time to get out the word in the swing states, but I missed the two media contacts you cited above.

Also, I think I've mentioned that Democracy Counts is already working with Citizens Audit of Broward, in Florida, where I live. Bernie folk should be able to see how this election audit effort works when Florida votes on March 17. (I believe the local NPR station is interested in doing a story.)

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Thanks Stephen,

There were so many irregularities in Iowa in 2016 that even The Des Moines Register flipped out over them in an editorial. They demanded release of the raw data, but the Iowa machine refused to release them even though Hillary "won" by only two tenths of a point.

I am convinced that Iowa was stolen from Bernie in 2016, and your piece suggests they may try to steal it again.

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Jerry: Thank you for the incisive comment.


I must ask you as a true and often published expert in these and related matters: Do you believe or buy into the supposition in these publications and from the Chair of the Iowa Democratic party that all of the check points to prevent such manipulation are in place, or is that just more smoke and mirrors? And there is a grey area between those two interpretations?


Where best does a private citizen make their concerns known?



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I actually thought reforms had lowered the risk of more larceny in Iowa in 2020, but I did not know about the smart phone app until reading your piece. There is no doubt that smart phones are hackable, and that it would be impossible to detect. The fact that Mook is involved is worrisome. He played a major role in the 2016 Clinton larceny operation

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It's not a question of IF they will try to steal the election from Bernie. The question is 'what are the plethora of ways that they will try?'


The DNC is a den of snakes and they are partnering with sleazoids like Mook for obvious reasons. The next few days are important when it comes to making donations to the candidate you support. And we must get out, far and wide, reports of this kind of hard-to-believe connections and bad-faith appointments and contracts.


The continuing message here is the Democratic Party leadership is continuing to operate in bad faith and there is no reason to think that they will not continue to do so.

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This is just divisive bunk. What you should really be focused on is the undemocratic nature of caucuses to begin with - where activists pick the winners and losers not voters. And you should be paying particular attention to having Iowa as an early caucus state - it is not representative of the country as a whole or of Democratic voters. And by the way, the myth that the DNC rigged 2016 against Bernie is now known to have been Russian-created and spread propaganda.

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Sure. Like we can change the "undemocratic nature of caucuses" between now and February 3. To alert readers to a looming problem is hardly "divisive bunk." Please read Rob Kall's comment above for clarification in how you comprehend what is going on.

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Sorry, but you are simply spouting propaganda when you suggest that irregularities in 2016 were invented by Russia.

Just to take Iowa as one example, why do you suppose that the Iowa Democratic Establishment refused to release raw votes despite massive reports of irregularities and a supposed difference of only 2/10ths of a point. I guess the Russians made them do it, huh?

And did the Russians "accidentally" scrub 200,000 Democratic voters from the voting rolls in Brooklyn where Bernie Sanders was born and grew up?

And did you forget all those Podesta emails that laid out the DNC's cheating in excruciating detail? Or Donna Brazille's admission that all of this indeed took place (she was acting head of the DNC if you don't recall). Since she confessed she has become persona non grata within the Democratic Party Establishment.

I could go on and on.

I frankly agree that Caucuses should be done away with, but that is a whole different issue, and Hillary Clinton gamed them massively in 2016.

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Mary Bell:

This is not a myth. Don't listen to MSM. Read my article that supplies a good deal of evidence that the DNC rigged 2016 against Bernie:

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I notice that Mary Bell Lockhart has fallen silent.


Perhaps the Russians silenced her?

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Can't all the delegates take picture or record numbers?

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As I understand the new rules the results must be passed on after every round, and they are recorded on paper index cards, so presumably, in theory, yes, but who is going to check those cards against the app?

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Quite a few people I think will be doing precisely that kind of checking, but who in fact can ascertain the verifiable level of scrutiny? Even if the vote tabulation went on across the street from your house, would you have access?


With every thing else going on with Tom Perez committee appointments in the DNC, the whole thing is not a very pretty nor reassuring picture.

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The only way to prevent election fraud no matter who is behind it is with hand counted paper ballots.

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See my comment above. There will be a paper trail, but how do we insure that the paper is checked against the app?

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Jerry: can you please contact the Des Moines Register (at least!) if not other papers in Iowa, the second biggest being the Cedar Rapids Gazette, and ask them if they can and will monitor the very question you posed in your incisive comment?


On a matter of this gravity, I would be asking the Editor in Chief of 4 or 5 papers. They are all listed here:


https://www.usnpl.com/search/state?state=IA


I think the largest would be in no particular order: Iowa City, Ottumwa, Quad Cities, Sioux City, and Council Bluffs. The Omaha World Herald would be worth talking to since a big chunk of their readers are in
Western IOWA. The Daily Iowan at the University in Iowa City would be interested, especially since they just endorsed Bernie, the 2nd paper in the US to do so.

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Wish that were true, Lois, but I've observed first hand how it is not. Back when I was in college, I was a ballot counter in a presidential election. If the fraud in that location in NY was indicative of the counting in other locations across the country, the system is rife with problems. Though I suppose if the cheaters are evenly divided in their party allegiances, it would ultimately have only a very marginal effect on the outcome.

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But not in the Iowa caucuses, where a lot of corrupt people want to put their thumb on the scale and give a fake defeat to Bernie, in this 1st vital primary.


His polling numbers after the Feb. 3 caucuses presently and the exit polling should shine a big light on these perfidious apparatchiks. Please watch that film I recommended if you haven't already. UNCOUNTED THE NEW MATH OF AMERICAN ELECTIONS, on YouTube.

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Thank you for this article. Election integrity has always been a problem. The failure of the Dems, while Obama was President, to revisit the 2000 election where there were significant differences between exit polls and reported results was a major flag, followed by a second major flag when the networks stopped doing exit polls or reporting on them.



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You are most welcome. I found the subject most disconcerting, but there seems to be little way of resolving any of these matters.


Maybe the Des Moines Register could look into it. Talk to your journalist friends; bring this to their attention.


Do we need UN Observers for our elections, like the US often forces on 3rd world nations? That would be a pathetic but real turn of affairs.

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The first article I ever posted to the internet was a translation of a very scholarly, but also very arcane analysis of the 2000 exit polls and official results in the battleground states. I posted it to Daily Kos and it was the top headlined piece for several days.

The study demonstrated that the exit polls, which historically are very accurate, differed from the official results by more than 5 standard deviations. Just to explain that, 1 standard deviation represents a 67% probability that the findings + or - the standard deviation are correct. 2 standard deviations represent a 95% probability. The probability of a variance of 5 standard deviations occurring strictly by chance are literally in the billions to 1.

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Jerry:

I have a chart in my article on Medium that shows the discrepancies between exit polls and final tallies in a large number of the primaries in 2016. It was so egregious that the DNC prevented CNN which did the exit polling from doing it in California where Bernie had a huge following.

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When I look for the culprits rigging our elections, my likely suspects are in order, DNC, RNC, CiA, FBI, Israel. The rest are relatively minuscule.

It makes no difference if good candidates try to run, because our corrupt elections will not allow them to win.

Please stop with the Russia, China, Iran crap.

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True. However, I wouldn't put the FBI on that list, personally.

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Remember, Stephen, it was the FBI chief, Hoover, who prevented FDR from receivng Dusko Popov's warning regaridng Pearl Harbor, then protecting Mcarthy after the war. It was the FBI who murdered the rising inspirational star of the Black Power movement, Fred Hampton and cracked down on the anti-war movement. And it was the FBI who was involved in COINTELPRO and myriad other frame ups, covert activities and assassinations. For whatever little good it accomplished in civil rights or curbing organized crime, it more than compensated with persecution of civil rights groups and cultivation of organzied crime. Writ large, it's a bad group that deserves to be on top of the Peoples' domestic shitlist.

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Your points are well taken. However, I don't think they are involved in this intransigence and larceny.

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I hope you're right. It just seems they always have some ulterior motive, and it's rarely in our best interests.

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I hope you're right. It just seems they always have some ulterior motive, and it's rarely in our best interests.

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The FBI is strongly suspected of preventing the BATF from moving to prevent the Murrah Building bombing in OK City, hiding evidence and escorting Arabian nationals connected to the bin Laden family out of the country after 9/11/2001. It initiated the vast majority of Muslim terrorist plots against targets in USA since that time, at least those plots that went to trial.


It is also noted for the incompetence of its crime lab over 20 years ago, and this likely has not been fixed. Look up Fred Whitehurst.

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Definitely. Bad group. I remember how it tried (successfully for the most part) in silencing VVAW through infiltration. It's fascinting how recent studies show that the demographic who trusts the CIA, FBI and MIC the most is the democrats. And of the democrats, educated middle aged women in particular. You have to think that it's a combination of knee jerk reactions to Trump's bashing the deep state and Hillary Clinton's hypnotic effect on their mores and outlook.

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This looks bad for Bernie. There is evidence that the DNC stole 2016 nomination from him. Where I live in Massachusetts Sanders won the primary exit polls by 6% yet "lost" the official count. Read Jonathon Simons' book "Code Red" for more on this. The election stealing champions since 2000 would have to be the republican party, read about the "red shift" in Simons and books by Mark Crispin Miller ("Fooled Again", "Loser Take All"), and Harvey Wasserman and Bob Fitzrakis. The documentary mentioned above "Uncounted:The New Math of American Elections" lays it out pretty clearly and can be seen on youtube as well. As stated above hand counted paper ballots are the most secure and cheapest way to conduct a democracy, Germany and other European countries have been using them for years.

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Do you think Bernie has forensic and voting machine experts in place in Iowa or anywhere else who could tear into this if something seems amiss after the caucus vote?


I wrote many times to Bernie's lawyer, Brad Deutsch, in DC, about the chain of evidence showing how and why 128,000 black and brown people in the Bronx and in Brooklyn primarily got disenfranchised and purged from the voter rolls right before the NY primary, but he never answered, not once.


I wrote to the US Attorney for the Southern District of Manhattan, Preet Bharara, and to the AG of NY (and that was in the form of a petition to Eric Schneidermann, signed by 7200, with 4000 of them New Yorkers), and all were totally ignored.


If you get screwed, you should be willing to go to court to make things right in a judgment, but if you do nothing, they will do it again, even four years later....


Ideologically, Bharara sounds like he is on the side of right, but in practice? Different story....no story.



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Bharara would not have been appointed to be a US Attorney if it was known he was not crooked. They made a mistake, which Trump "corrected" by firing him.


Eliot Spitzer was not forced out (as NY AG) because of a prostitution scandal, that was the mechanism. He was forced out for being too tough on Wall Street.

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Yep. I'm aware of the details... Spitzer's close friends with my attorney. What they did to him for being one of the few honest politicians was sick. And predictable. As John Perkins points out in his book, "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," if you threaten the operations of the imperialist syndicate which includes Wall Street as well as MIC, it will either kill you or humiliate you into resignation.

But Eliot gave a great performance after his frameup in the Oscar winninig film, "Inside Job," click here so looking at the glass as half full, I like to think he got in the last word.

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Bharara was a holdover as an Obama appointee; Trump got rid of almost all of them! No more complicated than that....

(Subterfuge is never superficial, by definition)

Most of the time, I do admire Preet Bharara on the Wall Street prosecutions, but when it came to actually doing something about the Vote Purging in NY in 2016, he did nothing. Were we asking too much?


The corrupted AG in Albany, Eric Schneiderman, was just too busy slapping around his Sri Lankan girlfriend to be concerned about 2016 New York Vote Purging at all. He had to step down two hours after the New Yorker broke the story of his bizarre sexual escapades.


Long before like 2 years, many many people (especially New Yorkers!) warned me to not even think about asking him to do anything because as they said, Schneiderman was part of the "Hillary Dream Team" of 100 top officials in NY who had endorsed her.


Yet by position and by office, the NY Attorney General had the most stature to go into Federal Court and ask for a Judicial Order that the NY primary was so fatally flawed, that it had to be done over again, something I believe to be unprecedented in American History.



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It's unlikely Bernie has any way to know if this system has been manipulated. The voting machines are run on secret software controlled by the companies who make them and they won't let us look inside the machines to see what they are actually doing. Bernie has been told about this but has done nothing about it. The same is true for other dem politicians during the last 20 years. The DNC cheating against Bernie in '16 included as you say, voter roll manipulation, and putting too few voting machines in areas likely to favor Bernie, and the super delegates.

It's possible the DNC didn't have anything to do with the exit polls discrepancies/voting machine manipulation seen in several states. The CEO's who control the voting machine companies are repubs.These kinds of evidence of voter suppression and vote manipulation have been seen in many campaigns since 2000 but were always used by repubs against dem candidates. The repubs may have wanted to eliminate Bernie from the nomination as he was polling better against Trump than Hillary.

This also appears to be a way to game the caucuses, which Bernie won overwhelmingly in '16 by very large margins. Jonathon Simon writes about this in the latest edition of "Code Red". Why the silence of the dems? Maybe the DNC prefers republicans to the progressive dems. Perhaps there have been threats behind closed doors. Maybe they don't want to end up like Mike Connell, Karl Rove's former IT guru, who died in a suspicious plane crash in 2008 after he was set to continue testifying in Ohio about vote counting irregularities in the 2004 election there.

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Could you turn this from a comment into a full scale article, PLEASE? it is quite excellent and incisive.

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Knowing that they (the DNC) hacked voting machines at a dozen or more primaries in 2016 to favor Hillary, this is extremely troubling:

"Those groups, along with officials from the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) . . . also participated together in election threat simulations."

The talk was to move back to verifiable paper ballots that can't be hacked, not moving in the other direction to fully digital where everything can be manipulated.

Wow, this is terrible news.

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Tom, with all of your new and old connections to the editors of paper in IA, why don't you call some today and bring this Mook matter up and ask them to investigate and report on their findings BEFORE the caucuses, rather than after? I will also be doing that today.

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We don't know that the dems hacked the voting machines. The software that runs them is owned and controlled by republican CEO's. See my comment above.The machines are designed to be easily hacked and manipulated without leaving a trace and the companies who own the software won't let us see inside the machines. In Australia they use voting machines but the software is made available to the public and they use paper ballots in conjunction with the machines. Throughout election day surprise audits are conducted at voting places. The paper ballots are counted (by hand), to make sure the numbers match with the machines.

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Who else would've hacked the machines in the Dem primary? No one else had the motivation to stop Bernie, would they?

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Bernie was polling better against Trump than Hillary was. The CEO's of the companies who make the machines are republicans. They may have wanted to eliminate Bernie before the fall election. It's hard to believe DNC dems would have access to voting machine software seeing as there have been so many of elections since 2002 in which dem candidate won exit polls but repub candidate "won" the election. Never once did a dem candidate lose exit polls and win an election during that time, it's called the "red shift". Trump also lost exit polls in WI, MI, PA, VA, NC, and FL in 2016 but "won" the election (electoral college anyway). Read "Code Red" by Jonathon Simon.

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Could you please provide some documentation of your statement about Trump losing the exit polls in those states? That's really important if true. I've only been able to find the below on the subject (from "The Atlantic")

"For Trump the key to that pincer move was his remarkable success among white working class voters

As polls had predicted for months, the Trump coalition was centered on white voters without a college education. Exit polls posted on CNN.com showed him crushing Clinton among those voters by enormous margins almost everywhere, particularly in the South. Trump beat Clinton among non-college whites by 18 percentage points in New Hampshire, 21 in Colorado, 22 in Arizona, 24 points in Wisconsin, 31 points in Michigan, and 35 points in Missouri. The margin swelled to enormous margins in Southern states: 34 points in Florida, 40 points in North Carolina, fully 64 points in Georgia. Even in states where Clinton ran well overall, like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Washington, Trump's margins among blue-collar whites were enormous.

In several cases, those showings represented significant declines for Clinton relative to Obama in 2012. According to the exit polls as of around 10 p.m., her share of the vote among non-college whites, relative to Obama's showing in 2012, fell 14 points in Maine, 13 points in Michigan, 12 points in New Hampshire, 11 points in Colorado, 10 points in Wisconsin, nine points in Pennsylvania, and six points in Florida. It didn't change much in key Southern states such as Virginia and North Carolina only because Obama's number was so low in the first place. The national exit poll, as of 3 a.m., showed Trump beating Clinton among non-college whites by a stunning 39 percentage pointseven larger than Ronald Reagan's margin against Walter Mondale during his landslide victory in 1984.

In some traditionally Democratic states, Clinton was able to overcome this surge with strong performances among minority voters and college-educated whites. The exit polls gave her 55 percent of college whites in New Jersey and Wisconsin, 54 percent in New Hampshire, and 51 percent in Colorado, Pennsylvania, and Washington. Compared to Obama, she improved the Democratic showing among college-educated whites in Arizona, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. But in other key battlegrounds like Michigan, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Ohio she only essentially matched his performance; in Florida she slipped slightly among the white-collar whites. Overall, the national exit poll showed her improving among college-educated whites over Obama in 2012, but only by three percentage points, and losing them narrowly to Trump. (As a result, the record of no Democrat ever winning most college-educated whites remained intact.) Despite strong performances among minority voters, that left her with too narrow a coalition to withstand the Trump blue-collar surge."


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You can search "2016 exit poll discrepancy" on opednews and come up with several articles. Tom Hartman has talked about it on his radio show and is coming out with a new book on elections in which he is going to mention it. Harvey Wasserman and Bob Fitzrakis talk about it in their book "The Strip and Flip Disaster of America's 2016 Election". Jonathon Simon addresses it in his book "Code Red" in the 2018 edition. Mark Crispin Miller has written extensively about election problems and has articles about this on his website markcrispinmiller.com. Brad Friedman talks about it on his website the bradlog. Do searches for "2016 exit poll discrepancies" at these and other sites and you will find articles.

I may have remembered it wrong though, it seems that in some of these articles they mention 4 swing states where Clinton won exit polls; WI, PA, NC, and FL. In MI there were something like 90,000 ballots that had no vote for the presidential race. This was worthy of investigation in a state where Trump supposedly won by 10,000 votes. Dem candidates have been losing elections in which they won exit polls as long as we've had hackable electronic voting machines which are controlled by companies who keep the software secret (2002). People like Simon, Miller, Wasserman, and Fitzrakis have been writing about it for a long time but the mainstream news has never covered it. Several people at Opednews have covered over the years. Along with this republicans have successfully thrown millions of dem voters off voting rolls since 2000. Greg Palast writes about this in "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy".

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Robby did such a great job advising H. Clinton.

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Its sad that we have to be so scrutinizing of the organization that is supposed to facilitate the will of the people in choosing a candidate but the DNC has shown repeatedly that they put their finger on the scale for some candidates and they do all they can to work against others. I really feel like after 2016 and this debacle that the DNC is finally signing its own death certificate. Young people especially are too smart to be tricked with this nonsense. You can not continue to subvert the will of the people. The reason that the DNC has been struggling is because people are deciding to give their money directly to candidates they support and not funnel it through an organization whose agenda is clearly biased against progressives.


Thank you for compiling this information.

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thank you. There are some new items in which Trump defends Iowa's position leading the primaries, and blames it all on the "Do Nothing Democrats."

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