However, on December 2, 2005, the New York Times, reported that a conversation between Rove's lawyer and "a journalist for Time magazine led Mr. Rove to change his testimony last year to the grand jury in the C.I.A. leak case."
Which means Rove received another get-out-of-jail-free card in this instance.
According to Time Magazine journalist, Viveca Novak's article titled, "What Viveca Novak Told Fitzgerald," on December 10, 2003, her visits and conversations Attorney Robert Luskin began innocently enough.
"In October 2003, as we each made our way through a glass of wine, he asked me what I was working on," she wrote. "I told him I was trying to get a handle on the Valerie Plame leak investigation," Viveca said.
"Well," Luskin reportedly told her, "you're sitting next to Karl Rove's lawyer."
"I began spending a little more time than usual with Luskin as I tried to keep track of the investigation," Viveca explained.
Sometime during the week of October 18, 2005, which Viveca refers to as "indictment week," she says, Luskin "phoned me and said he had disclosed to Fitzgerald the content of a conversation he and I had had at Cafe Deluxe more than a year earlier and that Fitzgerald might want to talk to me."
According to Viveca, she did meet with Fitzgerald on November 10, 2005, for about two hours after her attorney advised Fitzgerald that she would discuss only her interactions with Luskin that were relevant to the conversation in question, with no "fishing expeditions, no questions about my other reporting or sources in the case," she wrote.
Fitzgerald agreed to the conditions, she said, and advised her lawyer that he wanted to "remove the chicken bone without disturbing the body."
During the meeting, Fitzgerald asked if Luskin had ever talked to Viveca about whether Rove was Cooper's source on the topic of Wilson's wife.
"That was the "chicken bone" Fitzgerald had referred to," Viveca wrote.
Here is what happened according to her first-person account of her visits with Luskin as to what was discussed about Rove and Cooper:
"Toward the end of one of our meetings," she said, "I remember Luskin looking at me and saying something to the effect of "Karl doesn't have a Cooper problem. He was not a source for Matt."
"I responded instinctively," Viveca wrote, "thinking he was trying to spin me, and said something like, "Are you sure about that? That's not what I hear around TIME."
"He looked surprised and very serious," she said. "There's nothing in the phone logs," Luskin told Viveca.
"In the course of the investigation, the logs of all Rove's calls around the July 2003 time period," Viveca wrote, "had been combed, and Luskin was telling me there were no references to Matt."
Which means Rove received another get-out-of-jail-free card in this instance.
According to Time Magazine journalist, Viveca Novak's article titled, "What Viveca Novak Told Fitzgerald," on December 10, 2003, her visits and conversations Attorney Robert Luskin began innocently enough.
"In October 2003, as we each made our way through a glass of wine, he asked me what I was working on," she wrote. "I told him I was trying to get a handle on the Valerie Plame leak investigation," Viveca said.
"I began spending a little more time than usual with Luskin as I tried to keep track of the investigation," Viveca explained.
Sometime during the week of October 18, 2005, which Viveca refers to as "indictment week," she says, Luskin "phoned me and said he had disclosed to Fitzgerald the content of a conversation he and I had had at Cafe Deluxe more than a year earlier and that Fitzgerald might want to talk to me."
According to Viveca, she did meet with Fitzgerald on November 10, 2005, for about two hours after her attorney advised Fitzgerald that she would discuss only her interactions with Luskin that were relevant to the conversation in question, with no "fishing expeditions, no questions about my other reporting or sources in the case," she wrote.
Fitzgerald agreed to the conditions, she said, and advised her lawyer that he wanted to "remove the chicken bone without disturbing the body."
During the meeting, Fitzgerald asked if Luskin had ever talked to Viveca about whether Rove was Cooper's source on the topic of Wilson's wife.
"That was the "chicken bone" Fitzgerald had referred to," Viveca wrote.
Here is what happened according to her first-person account of her visits with Luskin as to what was discussed about Rove and Cooper:
"Toward the end of one of our meetings," she said, "I remember Luskin looking at me and saying something to the effect of "Karl doesn't have a Cooper problem. He was not a source for Matt."
"I responded instinctively," Viveca wrote, "thinking he was trying to spin me, and said something like, "Are you sure about that? That's not what I hear around TIME."
"He looked surprised and very serious," she said. "There's nothing in the phone logs," Luskin told Viveca.
"In the course of the investigation, the logs of all Rove's calls around the July 2003 time period," Viveca wrote, "had been combed, and Luskin was telling me there were no references to Matt."
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