But Cogan said he couldn't recall the precise verb that Reed had used. "Joseph Reed said, ˜we' and then the verb [and then] something about Carter's October Surprise, Cogan testified. "The implication was we did something about Carter's October Surprise, but I don't have the exact wording.
One congressional investigator, who discussed the recollection with Cogan in a less formal setting, concluded that the verb that Cogan chose not to repeat was an expletive relating to sex " as in "we f--d Carter's October Surprise.
During Cogan's deposition, David Laufman, a Republican lawyer on the House task force and a former CIA official, asked Cogan if he had since "had occasion to ask him [Reed] about this recollection?
Yes, Cogan replied, he recently had asked Reed about it, after Reed moved to a protocol job at the United Nations. "I called him up, Cogan said. "He was at his farm in Connecticut, as I recall, and I just told him that, look, this is what sticks in my mind and what I am going to say [to Congress], and he didn't have any comment on it and continued on to other matters.
He didn't offer any explanation to you of what he meant? asked Laufman.
No, answered Cogan.
Nor did he deny that he had said it? asked another task force lawyer Mark L. Shaffer.
He didn't say anything, Cogan responded. "We just continued on talking about other things.
And so did the Task Force lawyers at this remarkable deposition on Dec. 21, 1992. The lawyers even failed to ask Cogan the obvious follow-up: What did Casey say and how did Casey react when Reed allegedly told Reagan's ex-campaign chief that "we f--d Carter's October Surprise.
Discovered Documents
I found Cogan's testimony and other incriminating documents in files left behind by the task force, which finished its half-hearted investigation of the October Surprise controversy in January 1993.
Among those files, I also discovered the notes of an FBI agent who tried to interview Joseph Reed about his October Surprise knowledge. The FBI man, Harry A. Penich, had scribbled down that "numerous telephone calls were placed to him [Reed]. He failed to answer any of them. I conservatively place the number over 10.
Finally, Penich, armed with a subpoena, cornered Reed arriving home at his 50-acre estate in Greenwich, Connecticut. "He was surprised and absolutely livid at being served at home, Penich wrote. "His responses could best be characterized as lashing out.
Reed threatened to go over Penich's head. In hand-written "talking points that Penich apparently used to brief an unnamed superior, the FBI agent wrote: "He [Reed] did it in such a way as to lead a reasonable person to believe he had influence w/you. The man's remarks were both inappropriate and improper.
But the hard-ball tactics worked. When Reed finally consented to an interview, Task Force lawyers just went through the motions.
Penich took the interview notes and wrote that Reed "recalls no contact with Casey in 1980, though Reed added that "their paths crossed many times because of Reed's position at Chase. As for the 1981 CIA visit, Reed added that as the newly appointed U.S. ambassador to Morocco, he "would have stopped in to see Casey and pay respect.
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