'That's a question that happens as a result of their expansive approach to life, this aliveness-- norms of equality and dignity are nourished, maintained, sustained. People are able to relate to one another as true equals, with equivalent levels of dignity. They understand that everyone undergoes the same things in a life... Birth, love, struggle, age, time, death, dust. Life itself comes to be a much bigger thing. In America capitalism and supremacy are 2 forces which have made it impossible for us to relate to one another as equals, with shared dignity. So, instead, every conversation begins with:“what do you do”, followed by, “where are you (really) from?” We’re asking: where do you sit on two hierarchies, two ladders. One, capitalism’s ladder of money, and two, whiteness’s ladder of purity. Together, we can quickly assess someone’s status — their utility, their usefulness to us.'