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Yet another problem with the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

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I was reading Karen Fish's poll when I realized one of the problems with these theories

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Let me preface this by saying, for those of you who do not know, that I lean rather strongly to the official government explanation of 9/11. I acknowledge some real deficiencies with that explanation, and I do not regard people who believe in the conspiracy theories as dumb or the tinfoil hat set (crazy). I simply view the conspiracy theories as several orders of magnitude worse and more deficient than the official explanation.

I was reading Karen Fish's poll and the comments and I realized another issue with the conspiracy theories. For 9/11 to have been an act by our government, it would mean the entire US Intelligence Apparatus would have to be involved. That means CIA, NSA, Military Intelligence, etc. It would also be hard not to have the FBI involved. If this were a conspiracy, an FBI investigation would lead to too many unanswered questions. If the FBI is involved, that would mean the entire justice department were involved. But lets concentrate on just the intelligence agencies for now.

I realize that much of the progressive left views anyone in an intelligence agency as evil and corrupt, but I know better. I knew people in Air Force intelligence when I was a blue suiter and they were not evil or corrupt. In the CIA, we have the example of Valerie Plame as a whistleblower completely willing to do what is necessary to ensure the truth emerged about the decisionmaking to go to war in Iraq. There are a LOT of good and principled people in the intelligence agencies. But you dont even have to believe that.

To believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories, you would have to believe ALL, and I mean ALL of the people in these agencies would have to be in on it.

This is too bizarre of an idea to even contemplate. But it gets worse.

If we look to examples in the past of intelligence agencies that were corrupt and evil, such as the STASI and German SS, and then imagine what the STASI and SS would do in the aftermath of such an act, you see incongruencies with what we have now. I'll explain what I mean.

If you lived in East Germany during the reign of the STASI, or in Germany during the Nazi era, if you voiced an idea that was subversive to the government, you had a good chance of ending up in a prison or camp. If it was a REALLY dangerous idea/comment in the view of the government, you would likely end up dead or "disappeared". Latin American intelligence agencies serving corrupt governments had a tendency to "disappear" people who were considered subversive. For even suggesting that people who believe in the 9/11 theories to not be crazy, as I have, would probably have been enough.

So, those of you saying that the government and intelligence agencies were behind 9/11, how do you account that the government would do this, and leave all of us around to discuss it afterwards without any harassment or worse? You are arguing that these agencies have no problem with killing thousands of Americans and deceiving all of the rest. Why have they stopped there? I dont know how you account for that.

Put yourself into the mind of the leader of an intelligence agency that was part of a corrupt government that has perpetrated something like 9/11. Why would you not disappear M, Walter Whitten, Rob Kall, and any other people trying to spread the word about this. None of us have any real visibility. There would be no media outcry if any or all of us suddenly disappeared. Why, in the opinion of those of you who believe these theories, have they not "dissappeared" us?

 

An OEN Editor, Steven Leser specializes in Politics, Science & Health, and Entertainment topics. He has held positions within the Democratic Party including District Chair and Public Relations Chair within county organizations.

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hear hear hear hear by J. Edward Tremlett on Saturday, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:04:44 PM
This is so easily debunked as to be an insult to one's ... by Mr M on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:39:51 AM
and if i had a hammer by J. Edward Tremlett on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:08:05 PM
You didnt directly address my points by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:02:33 PM
Jesus H. Christ ... okay, let me make this simple for you .. by Mr M on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:42:13 PM
Congrats, now you have addressed 1/2 of my points by Steven Leser on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:30:45 PM
Do some more research by Tim Erney on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:29:02 AM
The writer understands nothing about intelligence work by Tony Wicher on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:53:30 AM
Wrong in this case. by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:21:55 PM
You simply don't now, do you? by Mr M on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:08:49 PM
Oh, I do know. Virtually everyone in the FBI and CIA were by Steven Leser on Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:10:55 AM
More insider info by Tim Erney on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:04:38 AM
What does this have to do with my points? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:34:06 PM
Compartmentalization by Tim Erney on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:00:06 PM
I did respond, but it did not get saved for some reason by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:32:03 PM
No, you are wrong on every point by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:35:04 PM
Steven, did you go and check out the lists of people ... by Mr M on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:29:36 PM
steven you've got to be kidding.. by jersey girl on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:30:24 PM
I'll make you a deal... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:48:35 PM
Finnish perspective by Nordic on Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:42:38 PM
steven you've got to be kidding.. by jersey girl on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:35:21 PM
j edward by jersey girl on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:52:41 PM
Yes by J. Edward Tremlett on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:36:34 PM
giggly? by jersey girl on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:18:39 PM
Actually, no. by J. Edward Tremlett on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:30:40 PM
Than let us make it easy for you ... by Mr M on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:40:20 PM
did you mean "then"? by J. Edward Tremlett on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:01:06 AM
I call them like I see them, and it is impossible for anyone by Mr M on Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:18:26 PM
debunked? Ok answer just a few questions then... by jersey girl on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:44:28 AM
debunked? Ok answer just a few questions then... by jersey girl on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:54:29 AM
Why deny a Criminal Trial of the Worst Crime in US History? by Hal on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:04:43 PM
Who said there shouldnt be a trial or investigation? by Steven Leser on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:06:42 PM
That's right, you're in support of both, you just don't ... by Mr M on Sunday, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:49:42 PM
Oh, I always say exactly what I feel. by Steven Leser on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:22:39 PM
Did you look at the GD evidence!!!? by Mr M on Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:23:21 PM
And, yet again... by J. Edward Tremlett on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:18:57 PM
9/11 truthers not marginalized? by Mary T Ficalora on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:17:58 PM
As I said to you in our private exchange... by Steven Leser on Monday, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:36:17 PM
steven by jersey girl on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:51:19 AM
Jersey by J. Edward Tremlett on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:56:41 AM
still waiting by jersey girl on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:59:23 PM
Still wondering by J. Edward Tremlett on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:33:50 PM
ohhh by jersey girl on Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:55:13 AM
Probably just as well by J. Edward Tremlett on Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:09:46 PM
We know why by Michael Fullerton on Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:08:26 AM
actually, no by J. Edward Tremlett on Wednesday, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:08:44 PM
Because you and M and various others are still here by Steven Leser on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:31:57 PM
Mr M and I and the "others" by jersey girl on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:57:26 PM
The pen is mightier than the sword, Steven. by adam syed on Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:22:21 AM
Yet Another Problem with this Argument by Steve Kalthoff on Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:07:36 PM
As I said above. It is public knowledge that the FBI and CIA by Steven Leser on Monday, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:17:11 AM
steven... by jersey girl on Tuesday, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:35:34 PM

 
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