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March 1, 2008 at 22:20:20

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Iraqi, and our, interests are not being advanced.

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What has been the result of all of our lost youths' lives and all of the money
we've "expletive deleted" pissed away in Iraq? US' interests are hurt by the
end result in "Operation Iraqi Freedom"-even though we were told it was
"Mission Accomplished"!

Think this out and the conclusion is Iraqi, and our interests, are not being
advanced by "Operation Iraqi Freedom"!



Remember the northern and southern "no fly zones" in Iraq? Isn't some state
approximating that what this mess seems to be devolving into?

The big "Mission Accomplished" area in Iraq is the Sunnis revolting against
al-queda in Iraq. The article "Sunni Forces Losing Patience With U.S.-Citing
Lack of Support, Frustrated Iraqi Volunteers Are Abandoning Posts" at
click here
was summarized by the Slate Magazine article "Virtual fence delayed for at least
three years; Bernanke hints at more cuts in interest rates." at
http://www.slate.com/id/2185353/
which describes that "the increasing frustration of the predominantly
Sunni forces in Iraq is leading many of them to abandon their posts. They
endured accidental killing of several members of the Awakening forces by U.S.
soldiers, late payments, and low salaries. They aren't getting their fair share
of resources. When they complain their words are wasted even though they're
continually facing more threats. If their frustrations continue to
increase, many are concerned the fighters will once again join the insurgency,
which could easily dismantle all the progress that has been made in recent
months."

The article "Sunni Forces Losing Patience With U.S." states "U.S.-backed Sunni
volunteer forces, which have played a vital role in reducing violence in Iraq,
are increasingly frustrated with the American military and the Iraqi government
over what they see as a lack of recognition of their growing political clout and
insufficient U.S. support.
Since Feb. 8, thousands of fighters in restive Diyala province have left their
posts in order to pressure the government and its American backers to replace
the province's Shiite police chief. On Wednesday, their leaders warned that they
would disband completely if their demands were not met. In Babil province, south
of Baghdad, fighters have refused to man their checkpoints after U.S. soldiers
killed several comrades in mid-February in circumstances that remain in dispute.
Some force leaders and ground commanders also reject a U.S.-initiated plan that
they say offers too few Sunni fighters the opportunity to join Iraq's army and
police, and warn that low salaries and late payments are pushing experienced
members to quit."
In the past two months, he said, 20 of his fighters have quit. Many felt their
monthly salary was no longer worth the risk of fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq. His
men also have not received their salaries in two months, he said. "We'll all be
patient for another two months. If nothing changes, then we'll suspend and
quit," Rafah Kassim, 37, an Awakening leader said. "Then we'll go back to
fighting the Americans."

Basic Marxist economic determinism meets big bro 43's warped reality and the
common old struggle for a buck wins. These terrorists-otherwise known as Sunni
Awakening forces, who are now being paid to kill other terrorists will go back
to killing US infidels if the US occupiers don't pay them enough. They have
wives and children, who are being shown how Daddy makes a living by killing
people, but no one would ever accept a job offer until he sees who pays the
most.

"The predominantly Sunni Awakening forces, referred to by the U.S. military as
the Sons of Iraq or Concerned Local Citizens, are made up mostly of former
insurgents who have turned against extremists because of their harsh tactics and
interpretation of Islam. The U.S. military pays many fighters roughly $10 a day
to guard and patrol their areas. Thousands more unpaid volunteers have joined
out of tribal and regional fealties.
U.S. efforts to manage this fast-growing movement of about 80,000 armed men are
still largely effective, but in some key areas the control is fraying. The
tensions are the most serious since the Awakening was launched in Anbar province
in late 2006, according to Iraqi officials, U.S. commanders and 20 Awakening
leaders across Iraq. Some U.S. military officials say they are growing concerned
that the Sunni insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq has infiltrated Awakening forces
in some areas.
"Now, there is no cooperation with the Americans," said Haider Mustafa al-Kaisy,
an Awakening commander in Baqubah, the capital of Diyala province, an insurgent
stronghold that U.S. and Iraqi forces are still struggling to control. "We have
stopped fighting al-Qaeda."

Think about "al-Qaeda in Iraq has infiltrated Awakening forces in some areas".
It is just like how Mahdi "Death Squad" members infiltrated Shiite security
forces. 43 realized this was "a dangerous country in a dangerous part of the world".
Why did he have to get us stuck there? He brought
al-Qaeda in Iraq to Iraq as they never were there before "Operation Iraqi
Freedom"!

US forces have inadvertently killed members of the Sunni Awakening forces, and
are not giving them weapons they need-so is that any way to treat an ally?

U.S. military officials and commanders say they are seeking to defuse the rising
tensions before hard-won U.S. gains are jeopardized. "Despite some of the
frustrations, the frictions and the attacks on the Sons of Iraq, they are
continuing to volunteer. As an interim solution, it seems to be working well,"
said Col. Bill Buckner, a senior U.S. military spokesman. "It's clear Iraq
remains a fragile security environment. We want to address many of their
concerns as best as we can, so that they continue to be part of the solution to
the security situation in Iraq."

Who are we fighting? Who is fighting us? Lt. Col. Ricardo Love, commander of
the 1st Battalion, 38th Infantry Regiment said "AQI and JAM will take advantage of the situation," using military abbreviations for al-Qaeda
in Iraq and the Mahdi Army, the country's largest
Shiite militia, which is loyal to anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr."

You are damned if let them in or not as "Sami al-Askari, an adviser to Prime
Minister Nouri al-Maliki, said recruiting too many Awakening fighters would
allow al-Qaeda in Iraq to infiltrate the security forces, in much the same way
Shiite militias have. But Sunni leaders warn that without the Awakening's help
in securing the country, Iraq's future will be grim.
"You need these people," said Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi, a Sunni. "What
sort of risk are you going to take if this 100 percent is stripped to 20? We
cannot afford to lose all this success, which is paid by the blood of the
people."

Remember the benchmarks? Having elections was part of those, but that isn't
going to happen.

The article "Iraqi Leaders Veto Law on Elections" at
click here
describes that "Iraqi government leaders on Wednesday rejected a law
requiring nationwide elections by the fall, sidetracking a measure that U.S.
officials consider a key benchmark for political reconciliation in Iraq.
Parliament passed the legislation two weeks ago. The veto by Iraq's presidency
council was an unexpected setback.
Lawmakers will now have to reconsider the measure, which they agreed to only as
part of a three-law package reached after weeks of political wrangling. The
dispute became so divisive that some called for the dissolution of parliament....
The legislation was vetoed because of the opposition of Adel Abdul Mahdi, a
Shiite vice president who sits on the three-member presidency council, according
to his aides and other lawmakers. The council must approve all laws unanimously.
Abdul Mahdi's aides said he believed the law was unconstitutional and would put
too much control in the hands of the central government instead of the
provinces.
"We need a law that will dismantle the centralization and make Iraq a federal
government with power to the governors and provincial councils," said Hamid
al-Saedi, a lawmaker who, like Abdul Mahdi, belongs to the Islamic Supreme
Council of Iraq, the largest Shiite party in parliament.
Passage of the law, which delineated the scope of provincial powers, was
considered a crucial step not just because it fleshed out the constitution's
definition of Iraq as a federal state, but because it would have required
provincial elections to be held by Oct. 1. The last nationwide elections took
place in 2005."

Every sect is afraid that the other sect would gain and that the most vicious
Iraqis of all would gain the most.

"The Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, for example, now controls much of the local
government in southern Iraq. But if elections were held, it might lose many of
those positions to the movement of anti-American Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr,
which did not take part in the last provincial contests. The Iraqi Islamic
Party, the powerful Sunni party led by Hashimi, might lose power to new Sunni
politicians affiliated with the U.S.-backed Awakening movement that began in the
western province of Anbar.
"Everyone says that they are all for provincial elections, but there is a lot of
foot-dragging going on here," said one Western diplomat who spoke on condition
of anonymity so as not to damage relationships with his Iraqi counterparts. "I
think a lot of these politicians would be happy if elections never took place."
Big bro 43's stooges were parroting his remarks about bottom-up successes in
Iraq-such as local elections! It isn't going to happen!

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Winston is an ex-Social Worker, burnt out by too much indifference regading our weak and weary who had too little interest in politics until the illegal Iraq War started.

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Winston is an ex-Social Worker, burnt out by too much indifference regading our weak and weary who had too little interest in politics until the illegal Iraq War started.
winstonWinston is an ex-Social Worker, burnt out by too much indifference regading our weak and weary who had too little interest in politics until the illegal Iraq War started.

Back to no fly zones in Iraq after these losses.

What has been the result of all of our lost youths' lives and all of the money we've "expletive deleted" pissed away in Iraq? US' interests are hurt by the end result in "Operation Iraqi Freedom"-even though we were told it was "Mission Accomplished"!

Think this out and the conclusion is Iraqi, and our interests, are not being advanced by "Operation Iraqi Freedom"!

Remember the northern and southern "no fly zones" in Iraq? Isn't some state approximating that what this mess seems to be devolving into?

by winston (119 articles, 17 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 31 comments) on Sunday, March 2, 2008 at 5:28:31 PM
 

 

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