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As the general election approaches, we hear more and more speculation about what the "October Surprise" will be THIS time. People wonder what vile political stunt will they pull to try to stampede people into voting diametrically against their own best interests yet again. This goes far beyond what used to be called "dirty tricks". Start another war and kill a hundred thousand people to crank up the fear level of the American people? They've done it before.
We also know that the administration is absolutely desperate. The towering infrastructure they have built of one whopping lie piled high on another is crashing down around their ears, and if they were to lose control of even one house of Congress, the investigations finally unleashed would certainly lead to war crimes prosecutions against each and every one of them. Would the Bush administration even hesitate to carpet bomb yet another country if they thought they could panic us into electing them again. We all know they would not.
When Bush and Cheney goaded Israel into launching a blitzkrieg on civilian targets in Lebanon, it was widely seen as a demo of what they had planned for Iran. They themselves framed it exactly that way with talk of Hezbollah being a proxy for their "masters" in Tehran. And as badly as the war in Lebanon turned out (not to mention Iraq), with massive world revulsion and plummeting support of the U.S among the Lebanese people, you would think that a sane person would pause to reconsider replaying the same debacle on a monumentally larger scale in Iran.
But the Bush administration is not sane, they are criminally INSANE.
And worse yet, they have given every signal that they fully intend to use nuclear bunker busters in attacking Iran. They were planning to blow up half the Nevada desert a couple months ago, with the transparent intent of testing how big the nuclear warheads would have to be to penetrate the underground facilities in Iran. And when that test was stopped, in large part by your protests, we would have hoped that would have impeded their plot. It did not.
Finally we know that if they were to commit such a crime against humanity as a nuclear first strike on Iran, it would happen with Congress out of session. That is why we must raise the loudest hue and cry starting immediately. We must have a Sense of Congress Resolution that there be NO attack on Iran without EXPRESS congressional approval. And we only have days to make it happen. We must preempt the next preemptive war before the cruise missiles start flying.
We must tell them we have had enough of the warmongers in the White House. All those who support this kind of leadership also deserve to face genocide charges in a court of law. The administration is out of control and American citizens better wake up to the facts. Please speak out now. It is not only the lives of your children that depend on it. YOUR life depends on it.
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Iran may share three letters with Iraq but the similarity ceases with that. Iran has a modern army with estimates of up to one million soldiers under arms. To invade this wealthy nation, not weakened by years of embargoes like Iraq was is a large undertaking. Where, I wonder, will we get the forces to do this task? We are so stretched now that we are abusing our National Guardsmen with endless rotation and long stays in Iraq. We are also losing the battle in Afghanistan due to insufficient manpower.
I believe this saber rattling is a ploy to win the coming election, I believe that even as ineffectual and rubber stamping a congress as this current one would not agree to the pseudo cowboy in the White House's demands this time.
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ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments)
on Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 6:16:48 PM
Funny I don't think the USAF is "strecthed thin". And since the OP is talking about using Bunker Buster nukes; that is all that is needed. A few B2s with full escort requiring little combined force resources.
Or are you seriously thinking that we will send US troops into a country just blasted by multiple nukes that hit nuclear targets? The fallout will be quite noticeable.
At most the Coalition in forces in Iraq would be required to fight a defensive war and against Iran. That would be quite doable with present deployments. But Ardee's delusional viewpoints are such that I would not be suprised, so a response should be humorous.
/hope to get a picture of y'all October 5th.
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Vulture (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 150 comments)
on Sunday, September 24, 2006 at 11:18:16 AM
of idiocy. Casually suggesting that we use nuclear weapons on a European nation (look it up moron)....you are that which dwells under rocks and leaves slime trails wherever you walk....
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ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments)
on Monday, September 25, 2006 at 7:56:16 PM
All the people in a state of hyperventilation over a U.S. attack on Iran are, I postulate, falling right into the hands of the smart Bushites - helping to create one mighty distraction from other important things going on. Too much political frenzied thinking and not emough attention to the technical details and facts that make any attack on Iran a virtually certain failure. I, for one, give the evil elites a lot more credit. They are much too smart to attack Iran, at least for the foreseeable future.
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Joel S. Hirschhorn (133 articles, 37 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 533 comments)
on Sunday, September 24, 2006 at 1:35:29 PM
While it's no secret we are steaming "over there", I am just not sure that DUBYA is dumb enough to start another war. It's not that I think DUBYA has grown a brain. It would take an act of the goddess for that to happen, and I think she's a little taxed at the moment.
I see it as part of their tried and true method to usurp elections: push the fear button and rally the Jesus Freaks. They have already begun rallying the Jesus Freaks with the values conerence held in DC. Now they need to scare the ever-loving shit out of us, and what better way to do that than to head towards Iran with war cries being heard from on high?
For the proof in the pudding, you need look no farther than the left side of this page. Count the number of article titles theorizing on an upcoming Iran war. I counted four thus far, and I have yet to go all the way through the list. If that isn't proof positive that the fear button is being pushed, look at the article to which I am adding this comment.
This begs the question, do *I* think DUBYA would be stupid enough to pick a fight with Iran? It's a surety that he and his den of vipers have already begun the overtures. They were begun some time ago. It's also a surety that DUBYA is stupid enough to think he has a chance to win in Iran.
With that said, I think he also knows that would spell real doom for many peoples in the area, not the least of which would be the citizens of Israel. An unstable Middle East, and a batch of pissed off Muslims would put Israel in the cross hairs from every side. Talk about being bombed back to the stone age. Tel Aviv would become a huge parking lot for Lebanon, and Jerusalem would have wailing walls every hundred feet.
The argument could be made that scenario would play into his ultimate Book of Revelations Armegeddon world view. However, once again, I can't help but see what's going on as another push of the fear button. This is the last act of a desperate man.
He knows with absolute certainty that if the Democrats take over the House and Senate, his days are numbered. He knows he could well face impeachment, charges of treason (which would be very hard to refute given the fact he has admitted on video that there was NO connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda), and possibly a war crimes tribunal.
Yes, DUBYA might show courage of the dying and drop nukes on Iran. Yes, he might be dumb enough to think the US has a chance against a well organized military force such as the Iranian military. However, I think he also knows if he "goes there", there would be no way he could escape prosecution as a war criminal; if not here on American soil, then at some other international location. Maybe he is desperate enough to think he has a chance. On the other hand, it could all be a well timed and plotted ruse...and we all know the Republicans and DUBYA would never employ a ruse to get what they want.
Or maybe, just maybe, he knows that by rattling his saber as he is presently doing, he's going to scare the shit out of us by another deft pressing of the fear button. He knows that in doing this, he will achieve his true goal, shifting the focus from concern about the upcoming midterms and ways to defeat the Republicans and toward the red herring of another war in the Middle East. I think the fact that most of the article titles that appear to the left of this comment are concerned with the "impending" Iran war, instead of ways for the Democrats to kick ass come November show that this fear button press is having the desired result.
Should we be concerned? Yes. He's dumb enough to pick another fight he knows he can't win. Should we let that deflect us from our most pressing real concern: shaking up congress come November? Absolutely not!
If we allow ourselves to react to what may amount to a red herring and deflect our concerns towards that non-existent fish, then we are playing into their hands. Let us not lose focus. Let us not dance on fear-colored marionette strings.
The most pressing concern of America is regaining control of our government from the evil men who control it now. Yes, a war in Iran would have dire consequences the world over. However, allowing ourselves to be distracted away from the really important issue of the midterms is sure to have even more dire consequences.
So, let's get back to what's really important here: winning in November. Let's not let up for one second in keeping the message alive that America needs a change in congress. Changing congress will go farther in stopping the insanity of the DUBYA regime than postulating on whether or not the Chimp in Chief is really stupid enough to start a war with Iran.
Blessed be!
Pappy
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Pappy (61 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 860 comments)
on Sunday, September 24, 2006 at 3:26:49 PM
that a victory in November is possible? I do not. Already the propaganda machine is oiled and cranking out both subtle and not-so-subtle messages, already the tide is turning and most campaigning is done sans poltical affiliation. I have never seen so many political signs that fail to mention party affiliations.
Lastly, do you really believe that a Democratic victory in the House is a win for democracy or is just another nail in the coffin for the status quo?
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ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments)
on Sunday, October 1, 2006 at 9:09:57 AM
[Do you believe] that a victory in November is possible? I do not. Already the propaganda machine is oiled and cranking out both subtle and not-so-subtle messages, already the tide is turning and most campaigning is done sans poltical affiliation. I have never seen so many political signs that fail to mention party affiliations.
Yes, I do believe a victory for the Democrats is very much an achievable thing. Why? Let me spell it out: FOLEYGATE!
As I have said in response to many articles and comments on the issue of the latest tawrdy scandal to rock congress, the genie is out of the bottle, and he's not going back inside for love nor money. The investigation committee has handed down forty subpoenas on this issue. That's forty more than anyone has handed down in the wake of the Abramoff scandal. Even though many in the committee want this thing to blow over before November, with that many subpoenas, I see no way it will. Assuming one day of testimony per subpoena, which doesn't seem unreasonable, this committee will still be doing its thing well after the midterms. That does not bode well for the Republicans by any stretch of the imagination. If for this reason alone, I believe there is an incredibly good chance there will be a turnover in congress.
Lastly, do you really believe that a Democratic victory in the House is a win for democracy or is just another nail in the coffin for the status quo?
That is a harder question to answer. Let me put it this way, if the Democrats know what's good for them, yes, their victory in November will be a big win for Democracy.
Admittedly, that is a really big "IF"! I think the Democrats are painfully aware that many Americans are going to be watching them like hawks if they win the House and Senate come November. They have been blowing a lot of bullshit about how we need to put our government back on track. They also know the conservative corporate media is going to have microscopes shoved up each one of their asses. If they fart off key just once, the malestorm will be monumental.
You can bet I will be watching as well. When I see any hint of hypocrisy or mendacity from the new iteration of congress, I will be shouting it from the mountaintops. No matter how many folks seem to think I lean left of center, the truth is my political agenda is about truth and honesty, not blindly sucking up to one political party over another.
I am a Libertarian, not a Democrat or Republican. Given a real choice, I will vote for Independents over either established party, especially if the candidate in question has beliefs that run parallel to mine.
I am not a party loyalist in any sense of the word. I have never been one. I don't think I will ever be one. I don't hold to the idea that one should blindly support any one party or group over another simply because I am a member of that party or group.
I have admitted my homosexuality here on several occasions. However, I do not hold with many of the opinions or political stands of the LGBT community. Just because I am gay doesn't mean I like to dance to loud, obnoxious "house" music, listen to the screeching tones of Barbara Streisand or Cher (hate it!), or want to parade about to profess my so-called gay pride. Nor do I hold to some of the political agenda of the LGBT movement just because they think I should.
One clear example is the issue of abortion. Many who are in the LGBT movement blindly support the right to choose. They do so simply because the right to choose is a left-leaning ideology, as is the LGBT movement. I believe in the right to choose because it is a constitutional issue, not a leftist issue.
I consider abortion to be murder. But given a choice between killing a batch of non-viable cells, or killing the mother because of unsafe and illegal abortion, I'll pick safe and legal abortion because it's better to lose one life than two. Also, since I will never father a child, nor deliver one, my opinion is moot. Further, since most in the LGBT movement aren't going to be having kids anytime soon, their opinion is just as moot.
I digress...
I think we have a real chance of seeing change in congress come November. Do I think it will have a positive effect? In the short term, yes. Do I think it will be a good thing for Democracy? Yes, but if and only if we the people remain ever vigilent, and don't let political party blindness do to the Democrats what it has done to the Republicans.
It is the duty of every true patriot to hold their government accountable. If we fail in this duty, we have no one to blame but ourselves if the party of hypocrisy and mendacity shifts from the right side of the aisle to the left.
Blessed be!
Pappy
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Pappy (61 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 860 comments)
on Saturday, October 7, 2006 at 4:36:52 PM
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