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February 12, 2008 at 14:16:34

Headlined on 2/12/08:
Hillary Is Not Losing: Bill And The DLC Are

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I know the Clinton family pretty well and can speak very highly of her and her capabilities.  Unfortunately for her, she adopted the Bill/DLC approach to politics.  And I told her that in 2000 when she ran for the Senate.

During the 2000 election I attended a Hillary fundraiser in Chicago for a small group of Democratic elites.  I asked her whether she really supported the death penalty and her answer was pretty telling.  She said that she was.  In my opinion, grass roots liberals do not support the death penalty nor do any humane societies.  I was disappointed with her answer and did not then grasp the significance of her answer.

Bill Clinton had a retarded person executed in Arkansas in 1992.  He actually left his campaign briefly to show his DLC strategy.  The DLC strategy which he helped found was to mimic the Republicans on the death penalty and national security issues whether you believed in that or not.  Can you imagine a Democrat supporting a position just to be elected?  I could not at the time but I have since learned the disaster that this has caused for the Democratic Party.

Selecting Bill Clinton to be the standard bearer for the DLC was perfect.  He was the best at arguing for stuff he himself did not believe in. And like many lawyers chooses to parse words for his own benefit.  That was good for him in 1992 and 1996 especially since he had Ross Perrault peeling off votes from papa Bush and Dole.  However, during the Clinton years, the DLC strategy caused the collapse of the Democratic majority which started in 1933. 

Last Sunday on This Week with George S, George Will made a comment about how Bill Clinton's political skills were essentially an urban myth.  I generally do not agree with Will except for his passion about the Chicago Cubs.  However, in this case he is dead on.  And I have said this for years to my DLC advocates.  You may win a few elections by saying things you don't believe in.  But, as it was with Bill and the DLC, insincerity is no longer a good political strategy.

That is why Hillary's case is so unfortunate.  I have suggested to her and others in her inner circle that she cannot be her husband.  He is a rock star and his popularity emanates from that phenomenon.  She is a hard working, intelligent, and capable political candidate.  Unfortunately she drank too much of her husband's Kool-Aid without understanding the consequences.  She could not pull off the insincerity game that some men can get away with.  There is a real gender difference in this area between men and women.  Men may be hunters and women may be gatherers.  But men are great at denying and women are more into self denial.  They have to be to live with the men that lie to them frequently.  This may be an over generalization, but it is particularly true for Hillary.

Hillary's vote for the Iraq war was bad enough.  Her denying that she made a mistake was the one that most Democrats cannot forget.  And Hillary got her denial advice from Bill who is the champion of deniers.  Had she fessed up to her responsibility for that vote, she would be the nominee.  However, she continued to take the advice from Bill's group in her campaign.  They are still living in the 90s thinking that Bill and the DLC are running.  In my heart I know that she is a sincere ethical person who would never have supported the Iraq war but for Bill's advice and the advice of people like Madeline Albright.  And I also think that she is a humanitarian who would not have supported the death penalty.

The lesson in all this is that you have to be true to yourself and your own beliefs to do anything in life and especially politics.  The old Abraham Lincoln quote (happy BD Abe) still is applicable regarding fooling the people.  It is also a lesson in being true to oneself.  As I wrote in previous posts, the real Hillary Clinton is the best qualified to be President in 2008.  Unfortunately for her and America, her husband has dominated their marriage to her detriment.  Sometimes you have to say no even to your own spouse.  However, the good news here is that the DLC is dead.  May they not rest in peace. 

 

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Michael MorrisMichael C. Morris has been involved in racing since the age of twelve (12) when he took a summer job working at Terry’s Speed Shop located in Phoenixville PA.

With the help of his brother John Morris, they teamed up and joined Razzberry Racing. In the 90’s, the team was building their own cars to complete in the Sports Car Club of
America’s National Classes when in 1993 Michael joined Ed Arnold Racing with David
Donahue, son of the legendary Mark Donahue, to run in th...

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It is the combo of all the above...

that is hurting Hillary...

While I would love to see a woman in the Whitehouse, I have issues with Hillary and what baggage she is dragging ALONG with the leftovers from Bill...and that she has "gone with the flow" on War in Iraq without questions etc...

I would not mind Hillary as VP role, but I have a feeling her ego would not allow it...prove me wrong.....

 

by Michael Morris (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 298 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 5:58:39 PM
 


About the author: welshTerrier2 believes all citizens must focus on restoring power to the people. Corporations control our agenda. They promote war. They export our jobs to the lowest bidder. They pollute our air and water. They promote laws to benefit their greedy shareholders at our expense. They control the puppet politicians through their campaign contributions. They control the mainstream media.

The dual disasters of global warming and a bankrupt national Treasury demand rap...

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welshTerrier2About the author: welshTerrier2 believes all citizens must focus on restoring power to the people. Corporations control our agenda. They promote war. They export our jobs to the lowest bidder. They pollute our air and water. They promote laws to benefit their greedy shareholders at our expense. They control the puppet politicians through their campaign contributions. They control the mainstream media.

The dual disasters of global warming and a bankrupt national Treasury demand rap...

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She Made Her Own Bed

I really have to take issue with this statement:

"As I wrote in previous posts, the real Hillary Clinton is the best qualified to be President in 2008."

This article has a "Blame anyone but Hillary" tone to it. To quote a well known terrier I used to hang around with: "if you lie down with dogs and get fleas, it's your fault not the dog's." Or, in this case, not the "Big Dog's." 

To lay blame for the damage to the country and the Democratic Party at the feet of Bill Clinton and the DLC is absolutely appropriate. Their brand of soulless centrism and win-at-any-cost politics and pro-corporate policies has been nothing short of treasonous.

That, however, does not let Hillary off the hook for her complicity. Hillary will never be the most qualified candidate for anything because her judgment is badly lacking. In her floor speech on the Iraq War Resolution, she said that ultimately, she decided to vote for the resolution, because, in her words, she "trusted President Bush."

She's trusted Bill; she's trusted George; what more does one need to know? 

by welshTerrier2 (7 articles, 3 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 105 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 7:49:26 PM
 


About the author: welshTerrier2 believes all citizens must focus on restoring power to the people. Corporations control our agenda. They promote war. They export our jobs to the lowest bidder. They pollute our air and water. They promote laws to benefit their greedy shareholders at our expense. They control the puppet politicians through their campaign contributions. They control the mainstream media.

The dual disasters of global warming and a bankrupt national Treasury demand rap...

to see more of bio, click on member name

welshTerrier2About the author: welshTerrier2 believes all citizens must focus on restoring power to the people. Corporations control our agenda. They promote war. They export our jobs to the lowest bidder. They pollute our air and water. They promote laws to benefit their greedy shareholders at our expense. They control the puppet politicians through their campaign contributions. They control the mainstream media.

The dual disasters of global warming and a bankrupt national Treasury demand rap...

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For those scoring at home

The following information was obtained from OpenSecrets.org. It shows the total amounts contributed to Clinton, Obama and McCain between 2003 and January, 2008 by the Communications/Electronics industries.

Communications/Electronics (rounded to the nearest thousand):

 --- Clinton: $6,833,000

 --- Obama: $5,239,000

 --- McCain: $1,271,000

To quote Mrs. Clinton: "I don’t think, based on my 35 years of fighting for what I believe in, I don’t think anybody seriously believes I’m going to be influenced by a lobbyist.”

by welshTerrier2 (7 articles, 3 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 105 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 11:04:36 PM
 


Gary Markowitz is a screenwriter and a political observer living in a canyon in Southern California
Gary MarkowitzGary Markowitz is a screenwriter and a political observer living in a canyon in Southern California

Get real, Drobster

Uh, hello?  Obama supports the death penalty.  Grow up.  You can't be president in this country if you support the death penalty or if you're an atheist.  Go fight with Dennis Kucinich for two or three delegates.  This is American Politics - a treacherous, Rube Goldberg device. 

See my op-ed pieces, Memo to Hunter S. Thompson and Waterboarding Bambi and Swiftboating Billary

by Gary Markowitz (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 10 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 1:02:19 AM
 


Gary Markowitz is a screenwriter and a political observer living in a canyon in Southern California
Gary MarkowitzGary Markowitz is a screenwriter and a political observer living in a canyon in Southern California

typo

make that "if you do NOT support the death penalty..."

by Gary Markowitz (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 10 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 1:22:53 AM
 


An artist and musician.
boomerangAn artist and musician.

Look Deeper.

"In my heart I know that she is a sincere ethical person who would never have supported the Iraq war but for Bill's advice and the advice of people like Madeline Albright.  And I also think that she is a humanitarian who would not have supported the death penalty".  Bill and Hillary are not Liars of the first degree?  Bill is Skull & Bones.  Hillary is not a high-degree Luciferian Mason?

Wow!  Have you not read about the Mena money laundering, the murders surrounding this fine family?  www.fourwinds10.com has been posting some articles lately about the Clintons.  Is it all disinformation?  I have read plenty before this elsewhere.

...and Bush is a conservative christian humanitarian because he's seen in church periodically?  They say "things" and they "profess" things, but that does not mean they are "aligned" with their words.

eeeeeeowww!

by boomerang (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 238 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 11:18:44 AM
 


I am an individual who is interested in exposing the true events of the 9/11 attacks.
CB BrooklynI am an individual who is interested in exposing the true events of the 9/11 attacks.

The TRUTH About Hillary

by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 403 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 12:15:48 PM
 


I am an individual who is interested in exposing the true events of the 9/11 attacks.
CB BrooklynI am an individual who is interested in exposing the true events of the 9/11 attacks.

See Link

Cathy O'Brien describes her sexual assault perpetrated by Hillary Clinton in her book, Trance Formation of America,
at Swiss Villa-Lampe, Missouri, 1983
(CORROBORATING EVIDENCE--note then Governor Bill Clinton's conversation about the drug industry in the first
couple of paragraphs and watch the video below; and note the satanic 'Baphomet' reference and read a criminal report below, also with satanic references)

 

Click here 

by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 403 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 12:19:47 PM
 


An artist and musician.
boomerangAn artist and musician.

Keep Looking...

Here is more from an article "Hillary Hopes You've Forgot -- Have You?" on rense.com   http://www.rense.com/general80/hopes.htm

I certainly recall some of this information coming up before.  My impression is the Bush/Clinton Klans past and present are ugly in the extreme.  Their hold on "power" needs to be broken.  They Do Not represent decent Americans in any respect whatsoever.  Investigate, Incarcerate.

by boomerang (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 238 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 1:17:52 PM
 


Mark A. Goldman is an activist, author, and now a Candidate for a Congress (7th District WA State) for 2008.  Only the two candidates who receive the most votes in the primary election in August will be on the November ballot.
Mark A. GoldmanMark A. Goldman is an activist, author, and now a Candidate for a Congress (7th District WA State) for 2008.  Only the two candidates who receive the most votes in the primary election in August will be on the November ballot.

Hillary IS Losing

All you have demonstrated is that Hillary is not qualified to be President.  Anyone who doesn't know that there is nothing more powerful than telling the truth, and whose character is not mature enough to do just that, is not presidential material. Unfortunately, the American people have not been presented with anyone who is qualified, and if they were presented with such a person it is an open question as to whether or not they would be conscious enough to know it, or brave enough to vote for him or her.

As for Obama, here we have a legal educator who, I believe, taught law students Constitutional Law.  How can you teach Constitutional Law and forget what it means to take an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution?  It's an interesting question.  Lucky for him no one he is running against seems to know what it means either.

by Mark A. Goldman (80 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 242 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 2:58:33 PM
 


For a living, I manage the design and construction of renewable energy projects. My hobby is sandwich repair; I also swap for parts.
JonmarkPFor a living, I manage the design and construction of renewable energy projects. My hobby is sandwich repair; I also swap for parts.

Remember? Bill brought us Bush!

Bill Clinton's non-stop lying facilitated the Bush presidency.  I remember 2000, and how hungry people were for a president who would just tell the truth. So Rove sent Bush on stage with his "huckleberry" act, and almost won.  Twice.  How people who could see through Bill could not see through Bush (and vice versa) is a mystery I may never understand.  Perhaps voters just get so hungry for a truthful president that they are willing to suspend their disbelief.

Now it is happening again.  Like Bill, Hillary preaches not what she believes in, but what she thinks will win.  At least the strain in Hillary's voice indicates she knows she is lying and is ashamed of it.

Bush, on the other hand, is not a liar--he makes up his own truth and believes in it completely.  That's what distinguishes the Clintons, as mere liars, from Bush, who is a genuine psychopath.

I belive that Hillary is perfectly capable of running the country to her own benefit, just a Bill was.  But that's not going to happen.  Instead, we're going to elect Obama and watch as he explores his foolish idea that you can meet evil halfway without becoming half evil yourself.   JP

 

by JonmarkP (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 64 comments) on Thursday, February 14, 2008 at 9:59:05 PM
 


American against War and Violence. Writer, English Teacher, Inventor, Creator of the First Manmade Floating Farm On The Ocean.... My companies name is ACET: Algae Charcoal Ethanol Technicorp. We grow Algae for Oil.
Dom JermanoAmerican against War and Violence. Writer, English Teacher, Inventor, Creator of the First Manmade Floating Farm On The Ocean.... My companies name is ACET: Algae Charcoal Ethanol Technicorp. We grow Algae for Oil.

Obama Wins Nothing

Do the people know where Obama and Clinton stand on the issue of
Impeachment of Bush and Cheney? NO! Be it a dirty word or not the fact is the President killed innocent kids and families in Iraq. Candidates avoid the truth during the election, especially when it comes to cleanup of the illegal and criminal administration now in power. Who brings justice to the people in Iraq?

My idea is that Impeachment would bring healing to Iraq and Palestine,
showing a resolve for justice in the Middle East. Things would come
quicker for Iraq and its own security. Troops could come home faster,
meaning more money for a domestic economy, than a War economy. We are in serious decline with the Mortgage Housing Crisis, with people losing jobs because the War and money sent to Iraq.

We need to reverse it, and doing it with Impeachment will bring America
out of its troubled past, not only economically, but by putting
forward the decree to ending the war, and working economically to end terror instead of using Military Objectives. Bush and his crony tax stimulus plan is not going to work. It is like throwing dimes and quarters in a wishing well.

It is clear Obama does not favor Impeachment. The 43 black
Congress-members have been mum on Impeachment to include those who chair the Impeachment and Judiciary Committee. John Conyers is obviously playing racism instead of protecting the Constitution. And Bobby Scott who also sits on that Committee has been playing the Obama, Conyers no Impeachment position too. Is it a wonder why Obama took Virginia? Scott represents Virginia. Obama supports Bush and his murdering machine if he does not support Impeachment. It is as simple and clear as that. Obama is NOT for Justice to the slain innocent Iraqis, or Afghanistani's who had nothing to do with Saddam, or binLadin.

And the fact that it was the Bush and Reagan cronies who started the
mess in the first place. Why were we going to War with Iraq? Oh I
remember the WMD, that those Republican Administrations Sold him in the first place. Obama is a SUCK LIAR!

I really do not think Obama is legitimate in winning when most people
do not know he is against Impeachment, and certainly he is against the
reinvestigation to 911.

Hillary needs to come forward in support of Impeachment and to
reinvestigate 911, ESPECIALLY when she represents my home state New York. She has not stated her position, and I think if she does she will gain many supporters.

Those candidates such as Kucinich and Ron Paul have supporters that
have not made up their minds who to stand for now that they have dropped out of the race, or thinking about dropping out. Not to mention
Mike Gravel.  When the rubber hits the highway we have to choose whether to waste our vote on a certain loser, or use it to get the better of the worse! That's reality! Sad and pitiful.

There are many many left over supporters that would change the
political picture. Even if Obama happened to win the bid as the nominee, it does not mean he has the win in the bag, even if McCain is rejected
because of his lack of an economic plan, and also because McCain is also
against Impeachment.

Hillary could go the independent route and clean house because of the
rigged primaries. Don't tell me John McCain really won New Hampshire.
She doesn't need the Convention to win, when we know it is rigged
anyway. Republicans really like Obama because he plays their tune. Obama is no Democrat.

Hillary's ACE card is THE IMPEACHMENT CARD....and she can use it no
matter if she wins the Convention nomination or NOT. In my opinion that
makes her President already, forget March 4th and come November.

The following URL's show Impeachment need, and an Economic Plan to
solve the Housing Mortgage Crisis.

http: //www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dom_jerm_071221_impeachment_phobia_o.htm

http: //www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dom_jerm_080109_hillary_the_link_to_.htm

http: //www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dom_jerm_080122_financial_values_shi.htm

http: //www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dom_jerm_080129_the_reason_to_conyer.htm

by Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 934 comments) on Thursday, February 14, 2008 at 10:38:42 PM
 

 

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