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January 9, 2008 at 11:16:19

Headlined on 1/9/08:
New Hampshire Election Fraud

by Ron Corvus

http://www.opednews.com


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I knew it, I knew it, I knew it................I knew it HAD to be election fraud.........let the election season fraud begin.

New Hampshire Election Fraud: Hillary LOST the paper ballot count but WON the optical scan ballot count. Obama WON the paper ballot count but LOST the optical scan ballot count.

2008 New Hampshire Democratic Primary Results --Total Democratic Votes: 286,139 - Machine vs Hand (RonRox.com) 09 Jan 2008
Hillary Clinton, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 39.618%

Clinton, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 34.908%

Barack Obama, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 36.309%
Obama, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 38.617%
Machine vs Hand:

Clinton: 4.709% (13,475 votes)

Obama: -2.308% (-6,604 votes)

2008 New Hampshire Republican Primary Results --Total Republican Votes: 236,378 Machine vs Hand (RonRox.com) 09 Jan 2008
Mitt Romney, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 33.075%

Romney, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 25.483%

Ron Paul, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 7.109%
Paul, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 9.221%
Machine vs Hand:
Romney: 7.592% (17,946 votes)
Paul: -2.112% (-4,991 votes)

I knew there was something a bit fishy about Hillary winning New Hampshire.
First of all, today, all the polls indicated a double-digit lead for Obama.
Obama internal polls had him winning by 14 points. Hillary's camp had him winning by 11 points.
Even the Hillary camp conceded virtual defeat early on.
Even Hillary believed she had lost before the polls closed. I can't recall a primary where a candidate had a double-digit lead the day of the election, but finished several points behind. Even the exit polling showed no sign of a Hillary win. The exit polls showed about even. Exit polls have a history of accurate projections.
Despite this, Hillary maintained about a three point difference the entire evening.
AP called it for Hillary with only 61% reporting. CNN still refused to call if for Hillary, as they explained and demonstrated on an electronic map how several key precincts had not come in yet. But that didn't stop NBC calling it for Hillary.
With 94% reporting, those key precincts STILL showed zero per cent reporting. NONE of the TV pundits could explain the differences.
Here's one pundit's excuse: "Maybe it has to do with the voting curtain in New Hampshire (private voting) whereas Iowa was public voting."

Today, pundits are still scratching their heads trying to figure out how all the polls were wrong, the Clinton camp projections were wrong; the Obama camp projections were wrong - it just doesn't add up to anything other than election fraud.
peace, r o n

News Updates from Citizens for Legitimate Government

Where Paper Prevailed, Different Results By Lori Price 09 Jan 2008

2008 New Hampshire Democratic Primary Results --Total Democratic Votes: 286,139 - Machine vs Hand (RonRox.com) 09 Jan 2008
Hillary Clinton, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 39.618%

Clinton, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 34.908%

Barack Obama, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 36.309%
Obama, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 38.617%
Machine vs Hand:

Clinton: 4.709% (13,475 votes)

Obama: -2.308% (-6,604 votes)

2008 New Hampshire Republican Primary Results --Total Republican Votes: 236,378 Machine vs Hand (RonRox.com) 09 Jan 2008
Mitt Romney, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 33.075%

Romney, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 25.483%

Ron Paul, Diebold Accuvote optical scan: 7.109%
Paul, Hand Counted Paper Ballots: 9.221%
Machine vs Hand:
Romney: 7.592% (17,946 votes)
Paul: -2.112% (-4,991 votes)

NH: "First in the nation" (with corporate controlled secret vote counting) By Nancy Tobi 07 Jan 2008 81% of New Hampshire ballots are counted in secret by a private corporation named Diebold Election Systems (now known as "Premier"). The elections run on these machines are programmed by one company, LHS Associates, based in Methuen, MA. We know nothing about the people programming these machines, and we know even less about LHS Associates. We know even less about the secret vote counting software used to tabulate 81% of our ballots. [See also CLG's Coup 2004 and Yes, Gore DID win!.]

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CLG Newsletter editor: Lori Price, Manager. Copyright © 2008, Citizens For Legitimate Government ® All rights reserved. CLG Founder and Chair is Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D.

 

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A political junky from childhood cut my teeth on vietnam era protests.Have lived in Bucks county all my life.My favaorite saying" Good ani't cheap and cheap ain't good,never has been never will be"
tjbA political junky from childhood cut my teeth on vietnam era protests.Have lived in Bucks county all my life.My favaorite saying" Good ani't cheap and cheap ain't good,never has been never will be"

count the vote

And Edwards lest you forget. The people who control these machines would never let anyone who would question,let alone cut back, the Military Industrial Complex receive a winning vote total. John being screwed with Gore and the rest of the country should file a fraud complaint against any black box votes.

Remember Repesentive Randy Cunningham,now in prison for taking a bribe for his vote. He took the boat ,worth about $ 140,000., to throw the vote on a  $141 million defense contract for just one weapons system.

The magnificent , 'merican ,murder machine is humming now baby and they ain't gonna let no stinking will of the majority of Americans,as shown by the actual vote count, choke off that pipeline of blood money.

by tjb (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 179 comments) on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 12:11:21 PM
 


I am a Canadian politiphile with a special interest in the American empire.
deliaI am a Canadian politiphile with a special interest in the American empire.

All of this is moot

Hillary won because she is the elite's preferred candidate, Obama is not.  He is there to narcoticize, she is there to win the nomination.

by delia (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 111 comments) on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 12:40:06 PM
 


I do not feel it necessary for me to give you a bio..this is not High School
Susan NelsenI do not feel it necessary for me to give you a bio..this is not High School

Fraud in the primaries is more important

right now..it lets those who control the votes, control who gets the votes..I noticed that Edwards..(and almost all the other Democratic nominess hit their "peak" after only a fraction of the votes were in)...and that is were their numbers stayed through out the entire process....no more votes for any of the candidates, except Clinton and Obama....you mean to tell me that after only 20% of the votes were counted....not any of the remaining votes were for Edwards, Richardson, Kucinich..? I wonder what the "odds" on that are?

by Susan Nelsen (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 227 comments) on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 1:05:09 PM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

It may be Edwards that payed the price of election fraud

Obama's final tally was four or five points from where he was polling the day before. Unquestionably many of his votes were flipped, but not enough to account for Hillary's total. That would suggest a strong possibility that Edwards was also victimized by the fraud.

by John Sanchez Jr. (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 897 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 10:19:46 AM
 


retired and loving it
dave stanleyretired and loving it

"New Hampshire Election Fraud"

IT's over don't  you get it

They play with the American people like they are toys.

next on the  agenda is a mass wipe out of the economy Depression

all the troops are gone, Black water will march in the streets ,while mexican drug lords  knock down your doors brandishing machetes.

Riots are coming so is marshal law

Fema camps all shiny and new are waiting just for you

the North American  union is coming

" we shall have world govt,  the only question is  will it be by consent or conquest. "

 For American it is conquest  total utter defeat

the troops wont be  coming back  those that  do will be so sick  of sucking up depleted Uranium they wont be much use as a force.

the day of keeping the  vigel on  freedom  has long since past . It is now the day of the locusts, Freedom died along time ago ,your masters now have other plans for you.Boom Boom boom boom Mcain  or Hilary with the god syndrome will be the only choices allowed  for the elections.

I look south and wonder  what happened to America in the last 50 years it has become its own nemesis 

 

 

by dave stanley (5 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 286 comments) on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 1:50:57 PM
 


Erik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. Member of 911Truth.org Advisory Board. Opinions expressed here are my own. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

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Better World OrderErik Larson, Human Being and concerned Citizen. Member of 911Truth.org Advisory Board. Opinions expressed here are my own. I only advocate and practice non-violent methods of social and political activism & change.

Recommended links:
9/11 Family Steering Committee Review of the 9/11 Commission Report

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JusticeFor911.org Complaint and Petition
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No confidence

that this Primary accurately reflected the People's will. 

Obama was ahead in all polls beforehand, and Diebold machines counted the vote. 

Not that Obama can be trusted, with his 356 bundlers- it's just that Clinton and her hubby have proven more thoroughly that they can be counted on to serve the interests of the corporate-military-industrial-intelligence-financial-insurance complex over the public's interest. 

That said, the People still need to turn out to vote, as a testimony against these subhuman corporate criminals. 

by Better World Order (4 articles, 295 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 748 comments) on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 2:17:46 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

Why?

Because they can. There's no one to stop them. That there's a vested interest in making sure that "we the people" remain invisible.

It's only those that have spent any time studying history of this country that know this country is a fraud. All virtuous and principled on the outside and all vile and corrupt on the inside. Everything is always skewed to favor those with the money and power - it's simply humane nature. The big dog never gives up the bone to the little dog till he's done chewing out the marrow.

 

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 1059 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 10:04:55 AM
 


I am a Canadian politiphile with a special interest in the American empire.
deliaI am a Canadian politiphile with a special interest in the American empire.

The only thing that surprises ...

me about this incidence of fraud is that it happened so early in the process. I wasn't expecting it until Super-Tuesday. But I guess the Dems got freakt at the strength of Obama's momentum, so they decided they'd better eliminate him before he pickt up so much speed that he couldn't possibly be stoppt. No doubt the Repubs were party to this fraud, as they, too, would be fearful of that kind of momentum, which could have conceivably carried him straight to the White House.

And tonight the media are playing the role that the Republicrat elite would have them play. They are all debating this huge dislocation between the polls and the results as if it were something they could analyse into making sense.

As I wrote last night, I hate it when I'm right about these things, but I think we can take a Clinton vs. McCain fight for the White House to the bank.

by delia (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 111 comments) on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 at 11:43:36 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

If voting could change things ...

... they'd make it illegal.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 1059 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 9:49:12 AM
 


SW Texas ultra-liberal
john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

If a convicted felon cant vote

why is Mr. Fazzel a convicted drug dealer programming the voting machines for LHS associates ???? I was angry after the results with the NH voters. Now with the news of fraud I am angry with the Paul campaign for the silence on this matter. If RP wont fight to protect our votes now what is to make me think he will fight for us in the whitehouse? I wish I had spent the money I sent for donations to Paul on ammo or food stores. This nation is toast.

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 352 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 3:26:17 PM
 


irwin like the president is a texan. irwin unlike the president does no believe that god has told him to slaughter people.
irwin wingoirwin like the president is a texan. irwin unlike the president does no believe that god has told him to slaughter people.

rigged primary

god knows I love a good hysteria as much as anyone.   but if the neo-cons really control the vote tallying gizmo then, pray tell, what difference could it possibly make which dumbocrat wins a primary because the the tyrant in chief, already selected, will be announced come november and it will be a rethug with a flair for groveling at the feet of corporatism.  the recent congressional elections demostrated that there still is some volitional randomness at the polling place. 

our job now is to work our butts off to see if barrack clinton or hillary obama can betray us the best after we elect one or the other.   our paranoia should not be frivolously squandered until dick cheney flees the US and takes residency in dubai like his boss, the head honcho of halliburton has done, only then can we fret over diebold rigging the election, and even then only if the election is close.

by irwin wingo (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 13 comments) on Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 5:47:39 PM
 


None
Lorring IINone

Ron Paul and Sutton County

Vote fraud, yet another infringement on our rights by the gov't.  Add it to the ever-growing list of violations:
They violate the 1st Amendment by opening mail, caging demonstrators and banning books like "America Deceived" from Amazon.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns during Katrina.
They violate the 4th Amendment  by conducting warrant-less wiretaps.
They violate the 5th and 6th Amendment by suspending habeas corpus.
They violate the 8th Amendment by torturing.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting 2 illegal wars based on lies and on behalf of a foriegn gov't.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save us all.
Last link (unless Google Books caves to the gov't and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

by Lorring II (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 86 comments) on Friday, January 11, 2008 at 9:10:48 AM
 


A 62 YO lefty in Washington State. A consumer of info first, a Progressive Democrat second.
Unfinished Degree from University of Hard Knocks.
Only punched a timeclock for total of 2-3 years.

mrcnwA 62 YO lefty in Washington State. A consumer of info first, a Progressive Democrat second.
Unfinished Degree from University of Hard Knocks.
Only punched a timeclock for total of 2-3 years.

"Election Fraud..........." Probably not....

I have a feeling.... this being a Nation of unspoken* biases and prejudices that the difference between counting votes and polling in Iowa and NH was this:

In Iowa a Caucus voter had to stand up in front of their neighbors in order to cast their vote.  NH voters stood with a curtain guarding their lip service from their lever pull.

 [*some unspoken louder than others.]

by mrcnw (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Friday, January 11, 2008 at 10:46:40 AM
 

 

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