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August 12, 2007 at 07:33:53

Iowa Straw Poll-- Did Romney Spend over $1000 a vote to win it? Either Way This is a Loss for Republicans

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No surprises in Iowa. Money won. Mitt Romney, the wealthiest in the Republican primary pack, spent millions to get 4,000 some votes.

One possible winner was Mike Huckabee. He said, "For all practical purposes, we won the Iowa straw poll," because he spent very little money and came in second. Then he went on to play what sounded like some pretty good rock and roll (what can I say, I'm a guitar player. He scored points with me for that. )

The big loser-- Tommy Thompson, who'd said he'd pull out if he didn't come in second. He ended up coming in last among those who worked the state hard.

When the Republican candidates get down to huckstering to the right wing hordes, you get to see the real right winger in them. It can be ugly and it can be funny. Tommy Thompson, Tom Tancredo-- they were a laugh, parrotting the old Republican talking points almost verbatim, as though that made them special. "I support the right to bear arms." "Tighten up them borders." Pitiful!!

At least Huckabee and Paul seem to have minds, and talk more like real people. Of course, their independence makes them less likely to garner the PAC money they'll need to compete with Romney's wealth and Giuliani's PAC money.

The worst? Tancredo is a nutcase. Of course he's probably desperate to get attention. He's a national embarassment-- talking about blowing up Mecca.

The winner, Romney pulled in a bit more than 4,000 votes. I'm guessing he spent better than $500 bucks a vote, maybe even more than $1000 a vote-- considering that he made 200+ stops to the state and he had dozens of family members scouring the state and he fed and entertained all the attendees.

AP reported the results of the contest:

Romney scored 4,416 votes to outpace former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee who had 2,587 votes. Sen. Sam Brownback was third with 2,192 votes.

Announcement of the results were delayed for 90 minutes because a hand count was required on one of the 18 machines.

The biggest loser of the evening likely was former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson, who finished in 6th place with 1,039 votes. He had said repeatedly that if he did not finish in the top two his campaign was likely to end. He left the event before the results were announced.

In Milwaukee, his campaign said Thompson would make an announcement about his future within 48 hours.

The missing big names got only a handful of votes.

Former Sen. Fred Thompson got 203 votes. He was on the ballot, although he is not an officially declared candidate.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani received 183 votes and Sen. John McCain got 101.

AP didn't even mention Ron Paul, who, among those contenders who actually showed up to campaign, came in last, with 9.1%-- about 1275 votes.

Now, the Iowa Republican party expected a 40,000 person turnout. They reported a 14,000 person turnout, but if you add up the numbers above, they total just over 12,000. Does that mean that "None of The Above" pulled better than Giuliani, MCCain and Thompson, with 1800+ votes?

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Carson DugalA concerned citizen.

Woodrow Wilson Legacy

I am proud to be an American when I see the way the straw poll seemed to cut through some of the hype created by the media.

Back about 1915 or so we had a politician named Woodrow Wilson that accepted a bribe to create the Federal Reserve. They were a group of very powerful bankers and businessmen from around the world at the time. Through the monopoly of being the source of our money and by being outside of our government, or paying any taxes, they have built up a fortune that, I believe, includes owning most of the politicians of the world.

It is going to take a determined, We the People, to restore law and order in our government before we can restore law and order in our once great nation.

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
-Woodrow Wilson

by Carson Dugal (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 19 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 8:39:06 AM
 


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Daniel GeeryGeery lived off the grid for 15 years in an earth-sheltered, solar heated home, while his kids learned in school that solar energy isn't feasible. NAPTA hosts a page on Geery's foibles in education, and explains how he got his butt fired from a tenured teaching position. Here's a short clip of his most recent solar contraption; for more on that project, and Geery's contention that the Wright Brothers took a wrong turn, please visit his airship page (hyperblimp.com). Apparently, Geery is the only...

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Woodrow Wilson Legacy

For half a century I've been pondering how our monetary system works.  Several books I've read don't really explain it.  When the government wants more money, allegedly to reflect business activity and transactions, they merely crank up the printing presses.  I've read that a certain Solomon family controls the presses and makes a hefty percent for simply running them.  This money, I think it's fair to say, really does "grow on trees."  Near as I can tell, the whole system is a house of cards built on a house of cards.  This paragraph from Woodrow would explain much about how the Wizard of DC runs the show.

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 58 quicklinks, 121 diaries, 690 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 9:43:06 AM
 


Robert Chapman is greatly interested in developing political awareness among as many people as possible.
Robert ChapmanRobert Chapman is greatly interested in developing political awareness among as many people as possible.

Iowa Straw Poll

Rob,  nice article  on the straw poll.

I take issue though with your contention that GOP pain is Dem gain.

Dems still need to put forward a positive and progressive platform that brings new people to the party.

Without such an effort by both parties, the system will lose its vitality.

Perhaps you are right and the low numbers at the straw poll are indicative of something more than merely August doldrums.

I disagree and find the comparison to the 1999 Iowa straw poll misleading.

In 1999, the most powerful political organization in the United States, the Bush machine, was ginning up the vote.

Their ability to draw a record number of participants was a foreshadowing of GW Bush's continuing- though diminished- ability to move the poll numbers.

Clearly, none of the current GOP aspirants have the star power that GW Bush exuded as Governor of Texas.

Comparisons, to 1999 aside, if the 2007 straw poll eliminated Gov. Thompson and maybe Tancredo, it has served a useful purpose.

It remains unclear whether the low participation in the poll is more indicative of discontent among the GOP rank and file with current policy-

 or of the lack of star power in this current crop of contenders.

If Iowans are staying away from the straw poll due to lack of excitement,  there is no gain for the Dems.

The RNC pr machine will be able to transform the nominee into a star by next July at the latest.

Even if the GOP rank and file are staying away because of dissatisfaction with the war or other aspects of  Bush's record, they are still conservatives and will probably return to the fold by next fall.

IT REMAINS IMPORTANT FOR THE DEMS NOT TO BECOME COMPLACENT.

Party building, organizing and most importantly the articulation of a coherent. positive center-left governing agenda remain the order of the day for the Dems. 

by Robert Chapman (28 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 556 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 9:19:00 AM
 


I made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?
David N-VI made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?

Show an ID to vote???

Yes, Rob, that is precisely the difference between the 20+ thousand people there and the totals of the votes.

David

by David N-V (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 34 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 11:59:15 PM
 


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BraschWalter Brasch is an award-winning journalist and university professor. His current books are America's Unpatriotic Acts: The Federal Government's Violation of Constitutional and Civil Rights, and 'Unacceptable': The Federal response to Hurricane Katrina, both available at amazon.com, borders.com and most major on-line bookstores.

Straw poll

I lived in Iowa for two years while a reporter. I found that the state had some very nice traits--for a conservative state (and a very conservative press corps, with exceptions in Ames, Iowa City, and Des Moines) It has the highest literacy rate in the nation. (The lowest, I believe, may be in Crawford, Texas) . . . Also, it has elected and re-elected many times Sen. Tom Harkin (and well before him, truck-driving liberal Harold Hughes). I doubt more than 4,000 Iowans are enamoured with Romney. The hard-core Romneyites did come out to vote and pay $35 (or be paid $35) to vote. And, as Rob so eloquently said, money did the talking in Iowa--at least for the straw vote. I would hope that the literate Iowans realize what has happened, and will see that even a conservative state hasn't benefitted from the Bushies.

/walt brasch\

by Brasch (63 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 48 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 9:42:32 AM
 


I live in the heart of America, and am haunted by the saying:
"Evil succeeds because good men do nothing." by Edmund Burke.

Albert Einstein had another way of saying it:
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."

So I do what I can.

Edward Ulysses CateI live in the heart of America, and am haunted by the saying:
"Evil succeeds because good men do nothing." by Edmund Burke.

Albert Einstein had another way of saying it:
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."

So I do what I can.

Rich Man - Not so rich man

Ecclesiastes 9

15 Now there lived in that city a man poor but wise, and he saved the city by his wisdom. But nobody remembered that poor man. 16 So I said, "Wisdom is better than strength." But the poor man's wisdom is despised, and his words are no longer heeded.

Ron Paul was not mentioned in news stories, but did better than the last three. I guess Iowa votes, and other states, are for sale, big time. Selling your birthright for a mess of pottage, just like the Bancrofts of Dow Jones selling out to Rupert's News Corp. Sure hurts to watch.

by Edward Ulysses Cate (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 217 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 11:55:23 AM
 


I'm a citizen and resident of Cascadia - a province of the FORMER USA.

*************

Other than that, what is there to say? I don't really matter... My vote doesn't even count. ***
And who really cares what I think! So I'm free to think anything.

***

The broader story: it's NOT about "me" or my ego or seeing my name in print... I'm a fleeting ephemeral whirlwind of energy patterns and I will soon be gone...

It IS about many m...

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mrk *I'm a citizen and resident of Cascadia - a province of the FORMER USA.

*************

Other than that, what is there to say? I don't really matter... My vote doesn't even count. ***
And who really cares what I think! So I'm free to think anything.

***

The broader story: it's NOT about "me" or my ego or seeing my name in print... I'm a fleeting ephemeral whirlwind of energy patterns and I will soon be gone...

It IS about many m...

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Explain Ron Paul to Me...?

I wish someone would/could take on the task of explaining why there are continual rumblings on the internet that Ron Paul is kicking GOP ass BUT the MSM is supressing his popularity numbers by under reporting or not reporting about his impact...


¿ANYONE know if this is true? Is this a living example of GOP MSM "framing" that George Lakoff talks about?  

Speaking of Lakoff, if you are unaware of his writing on the liberal/conservative divide in US politics: the whys and wherefores - I strongly recommend checking him out. He assembles his insightful arguments and presents them in very clear terms. He's a prof. of linguistics & cognitive science @ UC Berkeley - with several books on the markert at the usual on-line book retailers (maybe also your public library?) "Moral Politics" or "Whose Freedom?" make great places to dive in. Check him out.  Well worth your time/investment.



 

by mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 295 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 12:28:43 PM
 


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You're right and you're wrong on Ron Paul

Ron Paul had a shot at the second, third or even fourth place slot here in Iowa. But he came in fifth place, only ahead of Tommy THompson, among those who actually showed up to run in the straw poll race. But then, note how the mainstream media ignored him and included the guy he beat, Thompson.

 

by Rob Kall (808 articles, 3921 quicklinks, 332 diaries, 1703 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 1:28:37 PM
 


Been around the block a few times.
Blue PilgrimBeen around the block a few times.

Lakoff

is a decent place to start, but to understand framing, don't stop there. There seems to be, or have been (I haven't check it out recently) a crew around him tending to be fadish or cultish, and doing some gate keeping (staunch Democrat sort of thing, it seemed to me). Jeff Feldman, found at framishpisopen.org, also has some decent material. Both Lakoff and Feldman have their own limits in political thinking, however (to be expected, of course), and there is much more to framing and linguistic cognition than they deal with.

I recommend anyone interested read some Korzybski (1879-1950) about 'General Semantics', especially his work on abstraction -- but much work has been in linguistics and cognitive psychology since then, of course.

A main point to beware of with Lakoff is his talking about the nation as family metaphor, with two poles as strict father and nurturant parent. Tha's ok as far as it goes, but the nation is not really a family, and citizens are not really children, not politicians parents (and the idea that they are is something people need to get past if we are to be a real democracy again.) People also need to get past the idea religion based on 'God the father' and 'children of God' -- which is a rather primitive notion. Both of these (framing government and religion as parent-child) feed the idea that all we need is the proper 'great leader' to solve the problems -- a very anti-democratic notion indeed.

We see the dark side of this in Bush's "I'm the decider' meme, and saying his most important job is the protect the people -- it's not: his main job is to defend the constitution. The 'unitary (urinary?) executive is trying to be a big daddy or god -- not a president, which should have very limiited authority. In this sense, Lakoff make the problem worse by reinforcing the idea of government as parent -- *any* sort of parent. Tied in with this concept is divine rule -- the king as ordained by god to run a country, and delegating authority to local officials, and ultimately to parents who rule over children, in a chain of hierachical authority (with perhaps an alternative line of authority through the clerics -- perhaps a even father and mother structure, government and religion, in a rough analogy).

Korzybski's abstraction is a key concept in breaking through this: understanding how the mind deviates from reality by using language to represent actuality in distorted ways -- which parallels the 'deep frames' of seeing reality with any sort of psychological or cognitive structures. Parents are not leaders, but parents, and citizens are not the 'children' of a nation, even it's called the motherland, fatherland, or homeland -- a home is where a family lives, not the basis of a national political system. That sort of abstract metaphor is deadly, as we see all around us.

 

 

by Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 997 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 1:54:44 PM
 


Mail carrier who drives the rest of my colleagues nuts with my politics.
ScottMail carrier who drives the rest of my colleagues nuts with my politics.

Huh? They ignored Ron?

Hardly. On Fox News - that's right, Fox News - they kept cutting back to that camera shot that very prominently showed Paul supporters proudly waving their placards. Gee, I distinctly remember seeing some threads here hoping that Ron Paul would shock everybody with a surprise victory or something close to it. Oops.

Truth be told, this is much ado about nothing. A straw poll? Several months before any primary? This means nothing.

by Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 489 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 2:55:47 PM
 


Amy de Miceli is a freelance writer, with offices in New York and Miami.
no one has to die tomorroW.

Amy de MiceliAmy de Miceli is a freelance writer, with offices in New York and Miami.
no one has to die tomorroW.

They sure tried

...and as fox news showed that image they said something along the lines of... there seems to be a  lot of brownback huckabee and romney supporters in Iowa today...with no mention of Ron Paul. 

 

by Amy de Miceli (25 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 6 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 3:40:12 PM
 


I made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?
David N-VI made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?

No they didn't

There were no Romney supporters in the hall at the time of the aforementioned Fox news shots.  The newsreader did indeed mention the support for Ron Paul.

David

by David N-V (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 34 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 11:31:36 PM
 


Been around the block a few times.
Blue PilgrimBeen around the block a few times.

Here is Hart Willims'

on this: http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=6381

by Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 997 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 5:29:33 PM
 


I made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?
David N-VI made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?

I had a great time at the straw poll

Nice article, Rob.

I was there in Ames to support the FairTax and survived being completely surrounded by Republicans for two days.   I'm working on an article I should have for you by noon on Monday if that isn't too late.

You are dead on that Huckabee (like Ron Paul) has a mind.  I started "From Hope to Higher Ground" on the the trip up and stuck my bookmark in the middle of the last chapter as the plane pushed its way through thunderstorms to land in Tampa.  I am reminded of what John Stewart said to Mike Huckabee after reading it, "It's pretty liberal!"  "Can we believe you?"

Well after meeting the former governor Saturday and occasionally getting teary-eyed reading his book this weekend, I'm pretty convinced it is worth fighting to help him get the GOP nomination.  If for no other reason than to make sure Fred Dalton Thompson doesn't get it.

DavidN@TampaBayFairTax.org

by David N-V (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 34 comments) on Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 11:54:04 PM
 


I made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?
David N-VI made 39K in '05 and 51K in '06.  Am I rich now?

From USA Today

Third-place finisher Sam Brownback says he spent about $325,000 to win his 2,192 votes. That's $148.27 for each vote.
Second-place finisher Mike Huckabee spent about $150,000 and received 2,587 votes. That's $57.98 per vote.
Winner Mitt Romney has not said how much he spent. The reporting in this Washington Post article suggests at least $2 million and possibly more than twice that much. Assuming $2 million for 4,516 votes, that's $442.87 per vote. But it could top $1,000.

by David N-V (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 34 comments) on Monday, August 13, 2007 at 4:38:41 PM
 


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Republicans and the Essence of Neurosis

When I look at the Iowa Straw Poll, I think of what Freud said about a neurotic's perception of himself.  Freud said that a neurotic had a view of himself that was diametrically opposed to the truth:  Because the neurotic was too frightened to glimpse the truth, he shrouded it with lies.  So when a neurotic claims that she has a lack of self esteem (Lewinsky:  I had a lack of self esteem because I was fat) we know that she has, if anything, an inflated view of herself (Lewinsky came onto the Prez by flashing her underwear at him). And how are the Republicans like this?  They claim they are advocates of freedom when in fact freedom is just a campaign slogan for them.  

 

Republicans like to say they stand for freedom and democracy.  But the Iowa Straw poll has nothing to do with freedom or democracy.  To paraphrase Harry Truman, the Republicans know as much about freedom as a pig knows about Sunday.

 

How does one vote in the Iowa Straw poll?  One buys a ticket.  That is the only requirement.  Who buys the tickets?  The candidates.  Who wins?  The candidate who buys the most tickets for prospective voters and who gets the most buses to ship people to the convention where the dumb dullards, instead of talking about issues, eat lots and lots of bar b q.  No wonder Republicans are such ugly people.

 

So one wins the straw poll not by debating the issues but by spending money, buying tickets to enable people to vote for you, buying bar b Q to keep the fat fools happy, and by buying buses to ship people to Ames, Iowa (Ain't Aimes where they have a deadly strain of Anthrax, the release of which in 2001 G Bush forgot about, along with Osama). 

 

And so we start the campaign season with an event in which a candidate wins by buying the contest, pure and simple. 

 

And that's of course what jump-started Boy George Bush in 2000; he won the straw poll that year because he spent the bucks like a drunken sailor.  And what did we get in Georgey Boy Bush?  A man who claims to be a real tough guy but who went out for cheerleading in  Yale (And the liars in the press made Kerry and Gore the "girlie men"); a man who disregarded an August 2001 memo warning that Osama intended to strike targets in the US; a man who never did anything independent of his Daddy; a man who spent most of his time in the White House, prior to 9/11, on vacation; a man who is, to this day, spending two hours a day in the gym instead of attending to the nation's issues (He bench presses over two hundred pounds and is over fifty; he couldn't give a rat's ass about 20 year old boys who lost limbs in Iraq); a man who is the epitome of narcissism, ill gotten gains, unbridled egotism and is the personification of what may destroy America.

Oh, how I hate, hate, hate that selfish, worthless, empty man. 

Let me close with a segment of a short poem I wrote: 

"Their money is all stolen

Their work is all bogus

My hate is quite molten

My gun is in focus"

I am not planning to kill anyone.   I promise. I detest, decry and denounce all illegal activity.  That is just poetic hyperbole.  

 

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