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July 19, 2007 at 06:51:59

Impeachment, Bush's Child Health Care Veto and Univeral Single Payer Health Insurance

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There's a loose connection between the Dem congress's position on impeachment, Bush Vetos and universal single payer health care. 

Watching the reactions to members of congress, it's clear, they're all using the same anti-impeachment talking points-- that they want to appear to be getting things done rather than "wasting time" impeaching. Today brings news that Bush is blocking funding for children's health care. Why? Because it will governmentalize it. He's protecting private health insurers.

Perhaps his reaction provides an answer to how to convert health insurance to Universal single payer (just universal will not work.) We need to overcome his veto, or we need to get this done at the state level-- for children. We already have it for seniors. Then, let's gradually provide it for more and more groups of people until they are all covered and the only ones left with private health insurance are the wealthy, who want a supplemental insurance. Of course, it woud be better to just pass a big bill, but that may never be possible.

Meanwhile, Bush's favoring of the big private health  insurers is KILLING US industries that must pay for health insurance, while competing with dozens of major countries that subsidize that cost. Instead of giving billions in subsidies to Big Oil, we should be taking over the costs of health care for the industries in the US that are most endangered and rendered least competitive because of the health insurance monkey on their back. Once we socialize or governmentalize-- pick your poison nomenclature that the right wing will use to mislabel it-- healthcare for big industry, it will be easier, when we have the system in place, to provide it to people who are laid off.

Eventually, we'll have a system that can "digest" the unemployed and lowest paid who can't afford to pay for health care. We'll do it then, because it will be more cost effective to provide regular health care-- the preventive kind, that acute, emergency care. 

Getting back to impeachment-- if Bush keeps on blocking the legislation the Dems introduce, then their argument that they are avoiding impeachment to get things done will be neutralized by Bush.

Of course, the other argument that they have against impeachment is they are setting up the Republicans for a massive loss in November 2008, by showing them to be obstructing the legislation that Americans want.  That's a risky gamble though. If the Dems don't get anything accomplished, the PEOPLE may not trust them any more than the Republicans. Polls are certainly showing this discontent.  Still, the ploy may work, as long as another Supreme court appointment, the start of an Iran war, either directly by the US or through an Israeli proxy, the use of a false flag domestic terrorist attack...

Any of these could upset these nice, neat plans of the Democrats. Meanwhile, America desperately needs Universal, single payer health care and legislators at state and federal levels need to do all they can ASAP to make it happen.

Impeachment will probably wait for those 17 Republican senators to make "THE WALK" to Bush's office to tell him to get the hell out.  

 

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Re: Health Care & Impeachment

Well Rob, your health care solution sure gets my vote. You'd think those Democrats would jump on a chance to help all their financially poor voters. But I think both sides are afraid to kill the cash cow of the insurance companies. Forcing the insurance companies off the stock market might also help stop the rising costs. To many people milking that cow.

I fear another terrorist attack here at home, should the threat of impeachment get to strong to soon. Bush & his puppeteers still have an agenda to accomplish with time limits. All he needs is a reason to put us under Marshal Law until it is completed. That means we won't be able to vote him out or impeach him until his job is done. Then he'll gladly turn it over to puppet Hilary. The same puppeteers pull her strings too.

by Mitch LaRoche (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 22 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 8:36:09 AM
 


I'm a 61year old white guy, Veteran of 66-68, operate my own business with my wife and love to travel. Built a big sailboat in the 70's and went sailing for a few years, which ruined me for real work. Now, I fly hot air balloons for a living. Have been initiated as an Andean Paq'o. Yes, I am a liberal.
RogerI'm a 61year old white guy, Veteran of 66-68, operate my own business with my wife and love to travel. Built a big sailboat in the 70's and went sailing for a few years, which ruined me for real work. Now, I fly hot air balloons for a living. Have been initiated as an Andean Paq'o. Yes, I am a liberal.

Trust?

Well, I think you hit it right on the head there.  If the Democrats do not bring impeachment I will NEVER vote for one of the lay-abouts again.  They are choosing to support the current course of this country so it can be shown to even worse than it already is, at the cost of ruined lives and about 12 billion dollars a MONTH.  That's how much they care about us, which is not very much.

by Roger (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 334 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 8:43:01 AM
 


I am a 56 year old male cabinet maker. I am also a Ron Paul supporter.
chessmasterI am a 56 year old male cabinet maker. I am also a Ron Paul supporter.

Socialism

I am all for impeaching Bush because he has turned his back on the constitution. Your ideas on health care are also unconstitutional. Anybody who votes for universal health care is no better than Bush and should be driven out of office for not defending the constitution.

by chessmaster (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 2:06:27 PM
 


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Samuel BryanIn progress

"no better than Bush"

Even if one were to grant "chessmaster" the best argument, that health care is not among the Section 8 Powers Granted to Congress, (and therefore is properly a State issue), proposing a questionable law is a far cry from being the war mongering mass murders that Bush and Cheney have shown themselves to be.

by Samuel Bryan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 111 comments) on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 11:27:14 AM
 


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So many issues:

If competitiveness were your issue on Health Care, you would be advocating a tax on Big Oil to pay for all auto related accidents and disabilities and on Big Tobacco to pay for all tobacco related health expenses, rather than a tax on labor's income.

Pelosi's obstruction of impeachment most likely results from delays in the collection of funds for the coordination of the “passage” of the Bush negotiated “Sons of NAFTA”.

Only a (House Rule 604) Motion for Impeachment against both Bush and Cheney (charge of the week: Treason) will ever get 17 Republican Senators to make “the walk”.

by Samuel Bryan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 111 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 5:15:39 PM
 


Currently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.
Mr MCurrently I'm a cartoonist and contributing writer for The New Orleans Levee.

All well reasoned ...

As usual, Mr. Kall, well reasoned and seasoned with the appropriate "ifs".

My spin is the mass of people aren't really in tune to the nuances, procedures, protocols, let alone the legalize, manipulation, or amount of corruption.

Yes, there are a few hard-core political junkies that keep the lantern light, but for the most part the people that have seen "9/11 - Press for Truth", simply go back to "making a living", and as for the masses, I'd bet a years salary 50% couldn't tell you what the three branches of government are, let alone, what their functions are.

Now add this, the Neanderthals that are in power now.

Believe me, I pray I'm wrong. That before the "fail-safe"
(if we haven't already reached it) those of reasonable and sane minds who are in positions to change cource do so.

But if I were a betting man, and judging from history, I'm betting on the Neanderthals.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 1253 comments) on Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 7:21:31 PM
 


Name is Rose Martinis, age 64, married. Atheist and retired dental tech. Hobbies: archeology, history, science, woodworking, wood carving and volunteering for non-profits.
uluroName is Rose Martinis, age 64, married. Atheist and retired dental tech. Hobbies: archeology, history, science, woodworking, wood carving and volunteering for non-profits.

I have written to my Congressman

MANY times concerning the impeachment of Cheney first, then Bush. He actually wrote a reply, along the line of he couldn't support impeachment because he was working so hard on stopping the Iraq war and getting the troops home.  SAME canned reply each time.

by uluro (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 64 comments) on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 6:03:18 AM
 


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Speaking of the "same canned reply"

May I ask why not file an Impeachment charge against both Bush and Cheney for the crime of Treason.

It would be clearer in the House and more likely to pass the Senate.

by Samuel Bryan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 111 comments) on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 11:05:39 AM
 

 

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