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Interview With John Conyers, on Impeachment and Investigating Bush

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John Conyers, chair of the congressional Judiciary committee, is in the VIP area, backstage at the DC antiwar demonstration. He's surrounded by press, microphoness, cameras, digital recorders... Finally, there's an opening. I jump in, introduce myself and remind him that we met last June, and the circumstances. He remembers.

John Conyers and Rob Kall at the DC Antiwar Protest
photo by John Mihalich

"There are a lot of progressives on our site who were angry, the day after the November election," I tell him. (You know who you are .)

He smiles and says, "The day after... that soon? The new congress wasn't even sworn in until January."

"Yep, the day after," I reply, adding, "They've been angry that impeachment is off the table."

He pauses, purses his lips, then nods his head, agreeing, saying, "They have lots of good reasons to be angry. But, you know, the presidential race is coming, in 2008.. and it's already 2007. If you know a way to take care of all the domestic issues, to successfully prepare to take the whitehouse, to investigate and prosecute and impeach-- tell me..."

I replied, "Me, personally, I'm not worried about impeachment. I'm trusting you to pursue investigations that will turn up lots of dirt... You are starting them, aren't you?"

Congressman Conyers replies that they've already set the gears in motion and they will be under way soon, and that he hopes to see new revelations uncovered, after years of coverups.

Then I continue, "I'm not worried about impeachment because I think that once your hearings start, you'll turn up stuff that will send the Republicans to the Whitehouse demanding that Bush and Cheney leave."

He smiles, nods again and says, "That's been done before, you know. They did that with Nixon."

Then he introduces me to his communications direction. I introduce myself as the publisher of OpEdNews.com. He replies that he knows us well-- that they check google alerts and we show up regularly.

That is sweet news, confirming a suspicion I've had. And I'm guessing that if John Conyer's staff checks google alerts, that all the congressional staffs do it. That means that we in the progressive media, at least those spidered by google news-- OpEdNEws, Buzzflash, Rawstory, truthout, counterpunch, tompaine, huffingtonpost (as compared to blogs and community blog sites, which are not spidered) are reaching the decision makers in congress. (not that the blogs are not also reaching them, but not through the google alerts.

But back to John Conyers and our impeachment conversation... In our conversation, Congressman Conyers held to his position on not pursuing impeachment directly. But, as far as I'm concerned, Conyers is doing the best thing he can do to stop Bush and Cheney and get rid of them. All good things come in time. He's proceeding to hold hearings with the hopes of digging up what it takes to take things to the next level. What's there to complain about?


Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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Overpopulation Ignorance Greed Species extincti... by Daniel Geery on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 6:51:34 PM
Good work, Sir. I am glad to hear what you got Con... by Mikael Rudolph on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 8:33:05 PM
Way to go Rob, and glad to hear OpEd is getting no... by Fred F on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 8:51:29 PM
Hopefully he can be Impeached before starting a wa... by Fred F on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 9:05:37 PM
But the fact is, the man broke the law. The police... by Timothy V. Gatto on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 9:11:49 PM
There is a certain penchant in true believers to i... by ardee D. on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 9:08:35 AM
The thought that these guys might get away with th... by Bam M. on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 9:28:14 AM
Great work, Rob. Again, just a reminder. The im... by Jim Prues on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 9:55:36 PM
His arguments smell like a rotting dead fish. He ... by Mark A. Goldman on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:28:28 PM
With a hand shake's and a smile, Rob don't let Con... by Fred F on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:45:22 PM
Rob got noticed by someone important....the world ... by ardee D. on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 9:14:46 AM
I think Conyers was glad to hear what I had to say... by Rob Kall on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 11:43:20 AM
When the returning hero rode his chariot through t... by ardee D. on Tuesday, Jan 30, 2007 at 7:23:03 AM
This is one of the only times when I couldn't tell... by Moss David Posner, M.D. on Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:46:11 PM
But I clicked on your name and your author's page ... by Mark E. Smith on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:33:11 AM
If I have this right, No 'Impeachment' because the... by Mr. Robin Parsons on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 5:55:21 AM
Impeachment is America's last chance to send a sig... by Ben Marble, M.D. on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 6:08:20 AM
I have family that is part of the intelligence com... by JohnNmissouri on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 7:30:56 AM
It's not only the dead and dying in Iraq that cont... by Mark A. Goldman on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 1:20:18 PM
His lust for power and control over the life and d... by jpsmith123 on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 9:19:15 AM
I've been pondering for YEARS now, "Where ARE the ... by Blue on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 1:26:23 PM
wow Rob still sucking up on the impeachments issue... by Vulture on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 9:52:07 AM
Glad you got some face time with Conyers Rob, but ... by John Perry on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:59:46 AM
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I, too, attended the demonstration on Jan. 27, 200... by LarryWBryant on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:42:17 PM
There were probably tens of thousands of impeachme... by Rob Kall on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 at 6:40:33 AM
If we do not impeach we leave the door open for th... by ardee D. on Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 6:19:15 PM
I need an answer to this one. If you take an oath ... by cluelessfl on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 1:54:16 PM
It would be comforting to believe, as Rob Kall say... by rhalfhill on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 2:50:04 PM
I totally agree with Ben Marble's comment - this i... by Patrinka on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 3:12:22 PM
In my comment above, I mistyped the URL at the end... by LarryWBryant on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 3:23:49 PM
I know Conyers already has the case built and writ... by Sue on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 6:21:03 PM
Rob Kall still believes the myths about democracy.... by johndoraemi on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 8:14:11 PM
It isn't a democracy because the American people d... by eagleeye on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:02:00 PM
"I get tired of repeating myself about this misera... by ardee D. on Thursday, Feb 1, 2007 at 5:49:30 PM
Rob, I so appreciate all you do and that you we... by Lucille Moyer on Sunday, Jan 28, 2007 at 11:48:44 PM
Rob, I agree that it is reasonable to interpret Co... by phollings on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 at 4:31:05 AM
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Oh Pratliffe where to begin? Why prosecute a bank ... by ardee D. on Friday, Feb 2, 2007 at 5:42:25 PM
The Judiciary committee should have 1000 subpeonas... by Guitar Chris on Monday, Jan 29, 2007 at 9:30:57 PM