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It's almost a movie and novel story cliche-- the president or leader is under a lot of pressure, a usually arrogant, intense, impatient, almost hysterical military advisor tells him he has to do something very extreme-- use a nuclear weapon, drop bombs, intensify the conflict to a new level.
The reader or viewer can clearly see that this military guy is a stupid nutcase giving bad advice.
But the president is weak, indecisive, cowardly, whatever-- and he goes for the bad advice.
In the movies and novels, something always saves the day at the last minute, no, make that the last second.
No such luck in Israel. It appears that military advisors have persuaded the Israeli leadership to go ahead and make the stupid move. And they went ahead and did it.
Like the idiots who conspired with Bush to get us into the Iraq quagmire, the fools in Israel failed to plan ahead. Sure, Israel's superior military might enabled Israel to wreak massive damage. But, like the USA, Israel now finds itself in a situation where it is fighting an entity that fades away, lurking in the shadows, able to put the Israelis on the defensive, just like they did before Israel left Lebanon the last time, six years ago. Like superpower, like surrogate state.
The problem is, the USA wields so much power over Israel that Israeli politics is profoundly influenced by US policy. Bush policy has basically been simple-- let Israel do anything it wants to do. In some ways, the USA is like the parent and Israel, as dependent as it is upon the USA, for billions of dollars a year, in support, is like the child. And parents do LOVE their children. So it's no wonder that the US treats Israel kindly. The problem is, Israel has been misbehaving. Now, kids misbehave and, when they do, parents respond responsibly-- with love-- but responsibly. Sometimes kids misbehave because they misunderstand or get mixed messages from their parents. Sometimes the kids are troubled. Regardless, it is the job and responsibility of good, loving parents, to take the child in hand and deal with the bad behavior. Sometimes tough love is in order.
That's where things now stand with the USA and Israel-- not just with the USA Bush administration, but also the Jews in the USA. It is not realistic to expect the people Bush has appointed to do a competent job. They have been appointed to be loyal and obedient, to echo the simpleminded Bushisms Bush uses to keep the koolaid flowing to his "base." It takes real competence to get real jobs done. Condeleeza Rice has already proven her inability to function as a competent secretary of state under pressure. She has already failed.
But, in a sense, the congress and the Bush administration are cowed by the voting power in influence of the American Jewry. Conspiracy theorists and anti-semites complain about the influence of the Jews in the media, about the Jewish neocons. Frankly, I don't think there's much to the media story. There are a handful of prominent Jews among the neocons-- just a handful-- but they are highly visible. The neocons are part of the problem. But they are not the main problem. The main problem is that for too many American Jews, Israel can do no wrong. They are loyal to Israel to a fault.
It is time for American Jewry to start acting like responsible, tough loving parents, when it comes to Israel. You may ask, how are American Jews in a parental relationship with Israel?
It's the congress, stupid. Congress-- both parties-- is cowed by the Jewish vote. It's small, but Jews are known for their strong turnout. And the several million Jews in the US have incredible power to make a difference in elections. It's not something Jews talk about much, probably because most politicians are so damned afraid of doing anything but what it takes to hold on to the Jewish vote. Being Jewish, I've watched how candidates who are diametrically opposed on most issues line up and trip over each other trying to prove that THEY are more solid in their support for Israel.
It is time for American Jews to face the reality that their kid-- their surrogate state-- is not behaving well and needs some tough love. It is time for American Jews to make it clear to politicians that their support for Israel needs to include report for responsible behavior. They need to advise politicians that Israel's leadership is making bad decisions. They must make it clear that they still expect the USA to be a loyal friend and ally to Israel, but that the USA will also start putting some limitations on Israel. Typically, the Israeli response is that they are an independent nation. That's bull. They are so dependent upon the USA, some tough love will have powerful effects.
Part of the problem is, of course, the Bush administration is worse than incompetent. It is criminally misguided, and is using Israel to further its chickenhawk goals,like a parent who uses his child to help sell drugs or shoplift.
This complicates things, making the idea of straightening Israel out that much more difficult. It doesn't help that the Bush Administration, which should be the source of the "correction" upon Israel, is so profoundly impaired.
That means that the leaders of American Jewry, and they are not that well established, nor democratically chosen, must take a leading role in redefining the relationship of American Jewry to Israel. It is time they told Israel that it cannot continue its use of gross force. It cannot continue killing Muslims. Today, it appears a Pakistani attacked a Jewish Center in Seattle. I take this to mean that the Israeli assault on Muslims in Gaza and Lebanon has put all Jews, all over the world, at greater risk. I believe the Isreali leaders who made the decision to invade Lebanon have put not only Israel, but all the Jews in the world at greater risk. And by continuing to support the actions of Israel, American Jews ARE guilty of aiding the Israelis.
There are some Jewish leaders who ARE willing to speak out. Jonathan Tasini, running in the NY senate primary, against Hillary Clinton, says,
The truth is that while people view talking about Israel-Palestine as the “third rail” of politics in New York, the more I think about it, the more I realize that there are a growing number of people in the Jewish community who are willing to speak up, out of love for Israel, about the dreadful occupation and the never-ending violence that is spinning out of control, in large part because the United States�"and politicians like Hillary Clinton�"continue to blindly pursue a one-sided policy in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, a policy that is causing more death and sorrow for civilians on all sides of the conflict.
and Tasini says,
A friend of Israel, not someone who simply seeks votes, would deplore the collective punishment employed by the Israeli army in Gaza. As Rabbi Michael Lerner has suggested, in the wake of the democratic elections that brought Hamas to power in Gaza, “Instead of narrowly focusing on Hamas’s capacity to make war, the Israelis chose the path of collective punishment, a frequently ineffective counterinsurgency policy used to eliminate public support for resistance movements. In the height of the oppressive summer heat, Israel bombed the electricity grid, effectively cutting off Gaza’s water and the electricity needed to keep refrigeration working, thereby guaranteeing a dramatic decrease in food for the area’s already destitute, million-plus population. This act was yet another violation of international law that include[d] the arrests of thousands by Israelis and the shooting of Qassams at population centers by Hamas.”
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It does seem as if Jewish people must lead the call for peace in the Middle East..being a life long anti Nazi does not seem to be enough. I get ridiculed..'You dont know what Jewish people had to go through etc.'
Peace now..this is hideous. Peace now.
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Hamish (45 articles, 0 quicklinks, 68 diaries, 210 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 2:12:55 AM
Totally coincidentally I am listening to Exodus( not Marley)..'This land is mine God gave this land to me'..Hm
It was written by Pat Boone ..a right wing Christian..The blurb said his recording career came to an end with the British Invasion of the 60s..Thank God for the Brits!
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Hamish (45 articles, 0 quicklinks, 68 diaries, 210 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 4:02:50 AM
harriet, who says she can't figure out how to post a comment, writes to me,
YOU FORGOT TO SAY WHAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE DOING. I AM WILLING TO LISTEN TO ANY SOLUTION AT ALL, INCLUDING ONE WHICH SAYS ISRAEL SHOULD BE CUT IN HALF AND GIVE UP JERSALEM AND ALL OF ITS FIRST BORN CHILDREN... BUT WHO, THEN WILL DEFEND THE REST OF ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST?????
JUST WHAT IS IT THAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE DOING THAT WOULD WIN OVER THE ARABS AND MAKE THEM THINK ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST...
First, figure out that the support Israel is getting from Bush and the fundamentalists is not based on a caring for Israel. It's based on the belief that the rapture will come sooner if the conflict is inflamed. Don't read Washington's permissive attitude as a signal that it's okay to do anything.
Israel should ask some of the US leaders who helped make peace before come back-- Carter, Clinton, Mitchell.
I want to be clear that I do not oppose all military responses by Israel. But the Arab world has been able to use the images of Israel's action in a way that is more powerful than the bombs Israel fires. Israel must act smarter. Taking out Hezzbollah's headquarters in one bomb attack might have been a measured response. Displacing hundreds of thousands of Lebanese was stupid. One reader on my dailykos posting of this article commented that he thinks its about Israel's desire to get a reliabe water supply, hence, the push to the Litani(?) river.
And BTW, I don't necessarily support Israel giving back all the territory it took in 1967.
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Rob Kall (808 articles, 3921 quicklinks, 332 diaries, 1703 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 8:38:43 AM
Einstein wrote:
"This is a time when there seems to be a particular need for men of philosophical persuassion-that is to say friends of WISDOM and TRUTH-to join together...We Jews should be, and remain, the carriers and patrons of SPIRITUAL values. But we should also be aware of the fact that these values are and always have been the common goal of mankind."- ["Out of My Later Years"]
Only in solidarity can we accomplish anything. As a progressive Christian I am convinced that when enough of We the People of the dysfunctional family of Father Abraham unite for justice and human rights we can do as
Tom Paine articulated
[and thus inspired a diverse population of immigrants to become united]
"WE have it in our power to begin the world again."
And the next step is to realize his vision:
"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine
My knowledge of History is poor. Moreover coming from India, I don't understand many of your domestic policy issues.
Oscar Wilde once said, 'Anyone can make History, only a Great Man can Write it'.
While expressing our individual views, all of us must keep this in mind. And it's true that opinions get formed by not what happens, but by what's shown or reported.
Unfortunately as civilization progresses more and more, we deform truth more and more, deliberately or mistakenly; and propaganda wins over news temporarily. Mistakes are pardonable; but the price of deliberate ones would be reflected in wrong History. And the price would be enormous in near future.
What I like about overall OpEdNews is its openness, and transparency. While presenting both sides of the view, it does not have a self-righteous right approach.
With the background of the unfortunate Seattle killing hitting news-headlines, one would have expected a more moderate view to win over our short-lived memory and sentiments. But truths are hard. And two wrongs never make it right.
Yes Rob - in the fight between war and peace; peace would always win in the end. In the fight between news and propaganda - news will eventually win at some point in history. Unfortunately many of us don't survive to see that end. War and propaganda kills a few of us in-between.
Keep it up!
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Ranjit Goswami (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 10:07:13 AM
This article is a disgraceful exhibit of anti-Semitism
Here's another email critical of the article.
On 7/29/06, leedee@usadatanet.net wrote:
Note: this email is in response to an article called
Time for Tough Love for Israel from America and American Jews
published at
click here
There were Jews in Germany, during the rise of the Third Reich that had the same attitude as Rob Kall in criticizing the Jews of the United States for supporting Israel.
Apparently he'd rather support the continuation of Muslim terrorism, that has been going on for six decades.
The article is a disgraceful exhibit of anti-Semitism, whether written by a Jew or any other anti-Semite.
and here's my reply
Ridiculous, simple minded, cheap, failed analogy. Not even an analogy.
Israel is fucking up. If you have children, then you know you can love them and still deal with them when they do wrong. YOUR attitude will kill Israel, not mine. There are plenty of dead drug abusing children whose parents let them do anything they wanted to.
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Rob Kall (808 articles, 3921 quicklinks, 332 diaries, 1703 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 10:34:21 AM
Israel is not a child. These are adults and they are behaving criminally. This is a criminal nation in many more ways than one. It is time it is slapped down, and hard.
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amazin (34 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 400 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 11:27:47 AM
I don't see the author as advocating as extreme a position as you are replying to. I applaud him for making a hard effort to find a reasonable view of such a charged issue. I don't see comments such as yours working with with the same agenda.
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Nezua (42 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 93 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 12:20:55 PM
As Senator Clinton and Kerry have both stated there is no doubt that the invasion of Iraq was based on lies and deception but we are there and to pull out without a solution would result in chaos for the entire region. The goverments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc. will fall to extremists in this chaos.
The only solution is for the US to send all troops to Iraq and withdraw them thru the countries of Syria and Iran. Destroying their military and the terriosts as we leave.
nobleharper1@verizon.net
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Noble harper (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 11:43:27 AM
This is what the neocons have been advocating for years. You forgout Egypt, though, the 'jewel in the crown'.
Remember that Israel was created partly through terrorist acts. When the British negotiated for a Jewish state in the Middle East, they persuaded the Palestinians to give up land for this purpose. But it wasn't enough for people like Ben Gurion. Zionism was always more important than Judaism. The Jewish terrorists even bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem, killing Britons, Arabs and Jews.
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SweetE (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments)
on Monday, July 31, 2006 at 5:27:47 AM
charming lovenote from a rabid, foaming at the mouth zionist
the note, my reply, her reply, my reply
> On 7/29/06, ellen marie
> wrote:
> >
> > Less than twelve hours. Nice response time.
> > As Hezbollah missiles rain down on Israeli Jews,
> your solution is for American Jews to be pressured by their progressive "friends" into taming the Zionist
> Entity.
> > You are divorced from reality, as verified by this
> > lunacy: "First, there are a lot of progressives
> who would not agree with you. They are furious with
> > Israel. It may be the one issue that differentiates
> > progressives from liberals more than any other."
> > NYTimes/CBS poll: seven percent of Americans want
> the US to condemn Israeli actions in Lebanon.
> > Pew Research: eight percent of Americans identify
> > theselves as siding against Israel.
> > "A lot". On Kos, perhaps, but in the American body
> > politic you anti-"Zionists" are a tiny little tumor.
> > The rabbis of America already have spines, you
> > invertebrate little swastika punk. And unlike
> > anti-Semitic cowards like you, they also have
> balls.
> > Israel is responsible for the Muslim attack on the
> > Seattle Jewish Center? LOL! And you are not a Jew
> > hater, right? It is just your view that anytime
> Jews are killed it is their fault. Your parents certainly
> > failed you.
> > You may now resume blaming the Jews for Muslim
> > violence, psycho. The sevent percent of Americans
> who share your mental illness breathlessly await.
My first reply:
Look, your stupidity and blind support is going to keep this hate feud going for generations. American Jews can stay loyal and supportive of Israel while providing a moderating influence. The Israeli attack HAS made things worse for Israelis and for Jews all over the world, no matter how much hateful zionists like you deserve it. And I've never called another jew a zionist before.
Why don't you post your comments on dailykos? I know why. Because they tear you apart.
I didn't say that progressive side against Israel. I said they are not happy with what Israel is doing. But you are so blinded, you can't see the difference.
Rob
OpEdNews
On 7/29/06, ellen marie wrote:
What makes things worse for Jews are the Muslim
degenerates who murder them and the "progressive"
Jewish cowards who rationalize those murders. I choose
to support blindly the right of Jews to live. You
choose to support blindly the right of Muslims to kill
Jews.
You deceitfully claim to support Israel, but even as
Arab bombs rain down on Haifa the exclusive focus of
your wrath are the Jews you so hate. With supporters
like you who needs anti-Semites?
And how exactly would you feeble KosKowards rip anyone
apart? By wailing about the Jew conspiracy that
leftist psychotics believe rules the world? Good one!
The ultimate tragedy is that your Muslim friends
slaughter Jews who deserve to live and leave vermin
like you alive (from the neck down).
When morons like you support bad judgment and policy, it causes more bombs to fall on Israel. Israel's latest stupidity helped build the support and reputation of Hezbollah. You right wing zionist fools don't think. You hate and act on testosterone (get a shave sweetie) and that makes you feel good in the short run. Of course another aspect of all this is you NEED Israel to be in conflict, otherwise, expansionist zionism has nowhere to go. Thanks for your emails. It's making me realize just how dangerous zionists truly are to the rest of the Jews in the world.
I'm sure you believe that Jews and arabs will never find peace together, that Israel will always be at war. No nation deserves to exist that is based on continuously being at war.
I don't believe it has to be that way. Israel must operate from a basic belief that there is a way to reach peace. Any other policy is doomed to failure.
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Rob Kall (808 articles, 3921 quicklinks, 332 diaries, 1703 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 1:04:28 PM
Trying to help Jews stop killing Arabs does not mean that I want to help Arabs kill Jews.
I hate to be trite, but: two wrongs do NOT make a right. Israel's over-the-top response to Hezbollah agression has only weakened her spiritually, if not politically. Destroying Lebanon is not the way to head for a Middle-East peace.
I have always been a Zionist, if by that is meant one who loves and supports Israel. As a very young woman, I had hoped to "make aliyah." I think Israel has every right to the Golan Heights and even the West Bank.
But I am also a mother; I don't want ANYONE'S children caught up in a war. Nothing is worth killing children over.
It's the hard-liners on both sides who keep this war going year after year. How many Israelis want peace? How many "Palestinians"? Lebanese? What would each give up for peace for their children?
Shouldn't we at least make an effort at finding out?
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Lynn Hirshman (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 24 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 1:57:41 PM
Rob, your article is perfect and reflects your position very well. Now, I would argue that I do not think that Israel as country is our child and that I, being a Jew in the US must do something about it. But I think also that multiethnic Israel, ' one man- one voice with abandonement of thr Zionist doctrine is an answer. That's what took place in South Africa, right?
having said all that I salute you, Rob and as usual, please, accept my sincere support.
Mark Sashine
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Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3454 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 4:26:28 PM
Rob, permit me to give a little background as I understand it. Currently we are dealing with two different parties. Hamas represents Palestinian impatience with endless suffering under occupation and neglect of the community's needs by the corrupt Fatah. Two weeks ago, exactly one day after Hamas had for the first time signed an agreement to recognize Israel, extremists started the conflict in Gaza in order to derail it. (One has to understand that, even within Hamas there are several factions, some which are committed to Jihad and others which would like to get on with the business of creating a Palestinian State, even with Israel on its border.)
Hezbollah, however, exists in order to evict the Jews from Israel, and there is probably no way to negotiate with it unless one goes to the heart of their support, deep in Iran with every other influencial nation behind you. Keeping Hezbollah at bay and trying to get other nations to help stem the tide of money and weapons coming across Syria from Iran would be the best one could hope for today, short of engaging Iran in war. Not a pleasant prospect.
Rob, the best thing that American Jews could do now to influence the government is not to protest the war against Hezbollah. Even the doves in Israel understand that this is a non-starter. Letting civilians flee is a different matter, and we can devote our energy to that humanitarian aim, but a ceasefire that just lets Hezbollah regroup on the border would not bring peace for long.
Instead, the American Jewish community can let our government know that the most important thing the US can do today to help Israel is to get the peace process back on track. Talk to the less belligerent parties in Hamas--they do exist. Give Mahmud Abbas more credibility by letting him win a few victories for the Palestinians (release of women from prison, restoration of services to Gaza, and other things he needs to achieve to show he is not a puppet). If we help to build him up as a leader respected by his people, there is a chance that the allegiance of the Palestinian street will shift back to Fatah, which had previously discredited itself with its lack of concern for the welfare of its people. (How many Americans are aware, for example, that for the past decade or more, Hamas has been supplying basic infrastructure and necessities to Palestinians while Fatah pocketed their international donations? No wonder they have gained the people's loyalty! Polls prove that Palestinians didn't vote Hamas in because they believed in their extreme politics but because the people's experience of them was that they came through for the comman man.)
Americans, Jewish or not, can insist that the US government tell the world that we really care about the suffering of the Palestinians--especially those in Gaza and in camps--and then that we ACT ON IT. The next time a terrorist blows himself up in Israel in order to derail the peace process, tell America to ignore him--just like a bad child--and proceed onward till the Palestinian state is established. We could do this, if the American people, including the Jewish community, would insist on it, and the result would be to diffuse the main issue that fires up Muslims around the world and unites Sunis, Shia and the rest. Extremists won't be won over, but the masses may follow the peacemakers instead of the jihadists if they have something real to put on the Palestinian peoples' horizon besides promises.
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Lori Lippitz (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 5:36:14 PM
Tough Love for Israel is to realize that this has been going on for years. Over and over and over, like a broken record or a slamming door in the wind.
The idea that the Jews will put up with this crap is beyond understanding. The idea that they will occupy someone elses land is beyond me. The Jews claim it is their land, the Palestinians claim it is theirs.
Who cares...when the blood runs who's land it is?
I really think Israel should leave the Middle East. Israel is not the Middle East. If they stay it will always be terror.There is no way to have peace. To much blood has been spilled over the years. The only solution is separation. Israel should move to another homeland. They can find another homeland. There is plenty of land in the world. What is it with Jewism? To defend yourselves is honor? To remain in a conflict for years to centuries..is honorable? It is madness. It is insane. It is not antisemitism, or Jew hatred...it is recognizing that you deserve better than the torture you get all the time.
America is preserving what? The legacy of more hatred? I think so!
Israel who claims to be right and on the side of God...should be the first to end the conflict. Do not expect others to respect peace. No authority can guarantee that. But peace will come if Israel will move to its new homeland. It can be done...and it would be a great beginning to establishing peace...and proving that Arabs or Muslims have lost to understanding what creates peace.
If Israel should move to another homeland with the new homeland acceptable to its neighbors..and Israel is attacked by other means by Muslims or Arabs....not under the pretext of land occupation..or threatening Muslim or Arab security....then I think Israel would have a basis for War. But they need to move...first..
Israel on the Move.
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Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 930 comments)
on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 9:20:07 PM
It is time that America stood up and take All of the people
America would have done better in the war that we waged in Iraq if the president would have listened to the Pope!
The only thing he did was wage a HOLY War! Now the whole world seems that it is waging that same war. The war in killing, making the poor people and children, who are being killed in this war at this time. Many men, women, and children have been killed in the middle east, in Africa, in England, yes and even in America! The wages of war is sinful men who are not satisfied with what their life has given them. The fighters are really not the fighters. They are the LEADERS of the Fighters. Just like George Bush didn't want to fight in a war, because he was afraid of what might have happened to him in the past. Just like the way that he wants only the people who want to serve this country in uniform, and there are those out there who are just doing the best that they can, there are those who give their limbs, who leave their hearts on this earth for the very good president, who refused to serve in the wars because his father was running for vice president, and president and he had dreams of being a president of the United States. Just like there is more of the world being killed and destroyed by wars, famine, earthquakes, etcetera....
George Bush should have opened up his ears and listened to that precious Pope John Paul II. He actually told him to look to Afganistan and Iranians, but no he did not listen.
We Americans used to be a trustworth government that had people that we could vote in or out but that seems truly impossible. We use to be a Democratic Republic, when I was a child, but as I grow older and older I see the changes in our Government!
ALL men are created by God. We are all brothers and sisters. ALL of the people trace their roots back and we can all trace them back to the first man ADAM and the first woman EVE. WE are all brothers and sisters. WE need a peaceful man to go around the world to share in our Peace. Who will be that man?
by
nestacal (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 38 comments)
on Sunday, July 30, 2006 at 12:33:58 PM
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on Sunday, July 30, 2006 at 5:50:47 PM
