Well, Not Really

Druggies, thugs, dissidents, and the disenfranchised huh? So that is who the Ron Paul supporters are? I noted that you are employed by the government which I suppose could sway your opinion of the current "Real Big is Real Good" attitude which does seem to reign.

I do support Dr. Paul's philosophies, but find myself outside the group that you described. Apparently I was totally unaware of the bad company that I was keeping. Well to be fair, I am a little of a dissident.

But then for you to be fair, which candidate will change the culling of America's Middle Class and the already unsustainable burden of government?

Ya see, the system that we have is failing economically. And failing the American people, but then, that system pays your wages, doesn't it?

by Mike Folkerth (120 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 566 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 10:22:10 AM
 

Ron Paul is the only true Republican

Ron Paul is the only true Republican running for President. Government officials that remain within their constitutional limitations is Republican.  Ron Paul is the only honest and authentic candidate who is running for President.  That's right: honesty in honoring his oath of office.  No other candidate considers their oath of office to be a sacred oath.

by dutchman (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 11:11:12 AM
 

Count me in as a Ron Paul supporter

I'm a fifty-one year old professional who does not fit into the false choice dichotomy of liberal or conservative.  I am fiscally conservative, yet socially progressive 

What I firmly believe is that the further decision making gets away from local government, the less influence I have on those decisions.  The current "top tier" candidates are corporate and foreign government lobbyist tools.  They do not honor the Constitution or provide any sort of leadership that addresses the major problems this country faces.

The on-going devaluation of our currency, out of control government spending, intrusive federal government surveillance, sanctioning of torture and corporate influence on policy are characteristics of Latin American banana republics.  The Ron Paul Revolution is attempting to bring this country back from the abyss.

by brisa (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 2:11:30 PM
 

No more Republocrats

"It is increasingly popular and fashionable for Americans, especially youths, to say of government that it corrupt and non-representative of the American people."

It seems you're implying that believing govt. is corrupt is a fad, and not a true observation? Polls consistently show that a majority of Americans across all demographics think govt is beholden to left/right special interests.

 What explains the phenom of the first 3 comments on a liberal blog being from Paul supporters? I'd say it's cuz there's only 1 Repub candidate that will talk about real issues, while giving the impression that he's being honest; Paul. On the Dem side, it's Kucinich and Gravel. 

People have tried to claim the internet polls are being skewed cuz Paul's "fringe element" supporters are somehow much better at using the internet than the more sophisticated and intelligent normal people; however, media that conducted those polls have been forced to admit they were using technology to prevent skewing, such as 1 IP address, 1 vote.

I'd say the reason more people that use the internet support Paul is cuz they're getting their news from Web based sources and can research info and compare viewpoints/distortions/omissions much more quickly, easily and accurately than people who rely on the corporate agenda controlled idiot box and newspapers; these people are realizing that both parties are completely beholden to private interests who see the Constitution and the People as an impediment to bigger profits and more power. Case in point; we were lied into the Iraq war and the Dems are not investigating the lies, or moving on the impeachments that the majority of Americans now want; and this with most people still getting their news from the MSM, which do not investigating or reporting on the crimes of the Bullshit Administration. Imagine how high the support would grow if they did do honest journalism, instead of fascist propaganda? 

9/11? When a long-time Establishment insider like Sen. Bob Graham, who chaired the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry into Pre-9/11 intelligence, has gone on public record several times saying the JICI had evidence Saudi Arabia was involved in financing and otherwise assisting the supposed hijackers, and the govt and media ignored him and to this day pretend 9/11 was accomplished exclusively by Al Qaeda, do you really think, like only 16% of Americans, that the Bullshit Administration is telling the truth about what it knew prior to 9/11? This is just one of hundreds of inconsistencies in the official 9/11 myth. 

Read Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert

9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions by David Ray Griffin

War on Truth by Nafeez Ahmed

Complete 9/11 Timeline at HistoryCommons.org This timeline is made from over 5000 articles from MSM and the statements of govt officials and other "credible" people. The official story falls apart in light of the big picture 

by Better World Order (4 articles, 417 quicklinks, 27 diaries, 881 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 2:48:17 PM
 

Ron Paul is NOT the only one who speaks the truth

The media has made it their job to discount any and all voices who try to enlighten American citizens with the issues and the truth.

Ron Paul is one of them. Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are two more, Edwards is also increasingly vocal. The media makes it their task to smear and belittle them and they quote "polls" that discount their true support.

PEOPLE- DO NOT BELIEVE THE POLLS!!! How do YOU know they are not as deceptive and fraudulent as our elctronically-counted elections? Go whole-hog for YOUR candidate- especially if he is a truth-teller like Paul, Kucinich, Gravel, and increasingly Edwards. I regularly donate to 2 of these.

Just one word about Ron Paul and his libertarian mind. Please be aware that even though these 4 candidates WILL defend us against an abusive government- like the one we have been suffering under for too many years- by honoring their oaths to defend our Constitution, and these 4 will stop the war-mongering and bankrupting of the nation to the military-industrial complex, the big difference between Ron Paul and the others is that true to his libertarian ideas, Ron Paul would work to destroy government programs such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, public schools, public transportation, the FCC, FDA, EPA, etc- and all government programs that seek to help citizens against the power of the corporations. Why? Because he is for reducing govenment to almost nothing. So beware.

I believe all 4 named candidates would work to restore our Constitution, and to stop the aggression on other nations, but unlike Ron Paul, the Democratic ones would work to strengthen government programs that seek to protect citizens against the ravages of poverty and against the assaults by corporations.

Which America do you want?

PLEASE SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE REGARDLESS OF THE POLLS!

by Pat (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 3:13:01 PM
 

The Latest Ron Paul Fraud

Newspapers and TV shows have been buzzing with reports that
libertarian Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul raised over 4
million dollars in just 24 hours, on November 5.

If true, that would be the largest amount of money any Republican
presidential candidate this year has raised in a single day. In fact,
that's remarkably close to the most successful presidential
fundraising day ever in American history: John Kerry's $5.7 million --
and that happened only after Kerry accepted the Democratic
presidential nomination, not in the days before the primaries.

But of course this cannot be true. It has to be some kind of trick.

After all, every savvy political observer knows that Ron Paul has just
a handful of fanatical supporters.

When he started winning virtually all of the online polls, it was
clear this was the work of just a few pro-Paul nuts, with computers
and far too much time on their hands, endlessly spamming the polls.

When Technorati, which ranks popularity in the blogosphere, announced
that "Ron Paul" was the number one Internet search term, that was
obviously just more spam trickery by the miniscule but diabolically
active Paul cult. When Ron Paul's YouTube channel reached over 30,000
subscribers last month -- far more than any other presidential
candidate, and making him his channel the 39th most popular YouTube
channel of all time -- it was just more of the same.

When he won almost every phone-in poll after each nationally-televised
debate, once again it was clear to all right-thinking observers that
it had to be the same few Ron Paul fanatics, dialing over and over
again, somehow getting past blockers the networks put in place to make
that impossible.

When he started winning or scoring high in numerous local GOP straw
polls, it was obviously just the same tiny crew, now frantically
traveling state to state and using false IDs to make it appear Paul
had lots of supporters. No doubt this same handful are the ones who
greet Ron Paul, cheering and waving signs, wherever he goes.

The more than 1,000 Ron Paul meet-up groups, in over 800 cities, who
have put on over 12,000 events so far... just more trickery and
manipulation by this small but determined band.

Ditto for the countless thousands of handmade Ron Paul signs that have
seemingly popped up spontaneously across the country. The tiny Paul
cabal probably does it while they're racing across the country to keep
up with Paul's campaign appearances.

I frankly haven't figured out yet how this small group of isolated
loners and fringe crazies, as they're often described, has managed to
fool everyone into believing they raised over four million dollars in
one day. But it obviously must be just another trick.

Because, if it's not a trick, it would mean that Ron Paul -- and his
libertarian message of peace, civil liberties, economic freedom and
limited government -- has far greater support than much of the media
has ever imagined. And that couldn't be true.

Could it?

by bob jones (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 3 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 6:18:35 PM
 

Get a clue.

Rev. Robert Vinciguerra is obviously biased in his worldview. Being part of the problem, (government teat sucker) he obviously cannot be relied upon to provide an accurate assessment of anything that has anything to do with government or politics.

Let him stick with telling stories about a man living in the belly of a fish for three days, and leave reality to those of us with our feet on the ground.

by Mark Bennett (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 47 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 9:44:44 PM
 

The closer we get, the more it stinks

Gee, these "people in the know" with their "expert political analysis" telling us why what we hear and see isn't really what we're hearing and seeing.

Please - spare me.

Half the populace gave-up on the system decades ago. It's these people, if they ever get aroused again, that would tear this country up.  Do the math - 50% divided by two = 25%, take away 7% for non-votes and independents and we have 21.5%, hardly a majority of anything, that put this criminal gang in office. And we wonder why we never get any "real" people to represent us? If even a small percentage of the disenfranchised backed Paul or Kucinich the political titanic plates would shift.

And I didn't even mention that the whole system of voting is so corrupted as to be a joke in of itself. How hard can it be to have a paper receipt for your vote? God! They play us for such fools and you play along.

But we don't have a democratic/republic like the one you're floating around in and the 50% that have given-up know it. Ron Paul knows it. Dennis Kucinich knows it. But somehow the "experts" seem to think they know it all.

The sad thing is you're right. Neither Paul nor Kucinich will reach the lofty goal, not because they aren't capable or worthy, but because we have experts like you pushing their heads under water every chance you can get. Either because you're just to deeply involved to see the bigger picture or because you're part of the corruption.

I tend to believe the latter.

by Mr M (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 1436 comments) on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 11:16:18 PM
 

This much is correct...

"In some cases Paul supporters have proven to be anti-establishment to the point that they believe that the Bush administration plotted and executed the 9/11 terrorist attacks. These kinds of supporters are the loud voice of a small minority."

It's called "The reality based community". And It IS basically reality. Ultimately, it will prevail in utterly shattering the 60 year paradigm of U.S. global domination and cause the United States to fall very much as the former Soviet Union fell. I do not believe Russia is a better place today than it was, and I do not believe we who fight for the truth are going to especially enjoy the outcome; what will replace the current nightmare, may well be worse than where we are now. Never the less...

Israel/Mossad and Pakistan and worked with members of our own government to murder 3,000 New Yorkers and blame it on Islamists to "justify" long planned total regional occupation and possession of the oil reserves. Israel's very existence from the beginning is at the epicenter of a 60 -longer than that truth be told- attempt to create an exclusively "American" New World order. I am not a conspiracy "theorist" but a conspiracy FACTIST. And the fact that some of the most violent, ignorant, beer swilling inbred crazies inside the United States happen to believe what perhaps you do not, does not bode well for anyone; the wrong people are in possession of A truth, by sheer chance of paranoia, and the right people are ignorant or more often, fearful of the truth because a small cabal of Zionists control everything they see and hear and they can't turn it off.

I fear a Holocaust in America. If it ever happens -God forbid- many if not most Jews will have been complicite in their own eradication, whether by ignorance, or treason. Hitler smiled upon Israel and whatever else one might say of his capacity for pure evil, he was no fool.

So my foolish Israel supporting fellow citizens, do not say you were not warned when this all comes down; there are -in fact- roughly 6 million Jews concentrated in one area, surrounded by a people with a one thousand six hundred year old prophecy which predicted their return, and resulting war to defend their lands. Do not be amazed then to know who and what "Zionists" really are; actually Nazis, and their dupes.

I absolutley AM an extremist: The TRUTH is extreme because reality is either hidden, or when visible, wholly inverted. My "extremism" is not to be feared by anyone well meaning. I can not- however- speak for the innumerable nut cases armed to the goddamned teeth, and what their final response to the truth will be when finally it is manifest to all.

As to Ron Paul, I am NOT, nor have I ever been, a "Republican". I voted a straight across the board Democratic ticket in 2006. I am, and always have been an independant. I will vote for Ron Paul if any AIPAC complicit Democrat is the nominee. That is almost inevitable. What you are calling the "Ron Paul Phenomenon" is a conglomerate of voters unified behind their recognition of a single issue: The United States' role in the world must radically change course, and if it doesn't happen, we are utterly doomed.

I speak for many when I tell you this: I don't agree with a single domestic issue Ron Paul represents. I am -in effect- intending to be a SINGLE ISSUE voter. That issue is a complete reversal of foreign policy. I have nothing ideologically in common with Ron Paul apart from his apparent commitment to altering THAT paradigm radically, and no other issue remorely concerns me in comparison.

by Esbe (50 articles, 0 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 85 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 1:02:22 AM
 

In A Nutshell

The complete and total failure of the Democrats as an opposition party that will end wars of aggression, reign in empire, put a check on Wall Street looters and protect the Constitution.

That is what more than anything contributes to the popularity of Ron Paul because that gives him crossover appeal and smashes the existing left-right paradigm which is all an illusion to keep us pitted against each other.

And with each rollover by the Dems, each Republican lockstep decision to follow the Bushreich over a cliff and each day that the media fails to cover the real news the movement grows. And make no mistake, it is a movement and will God willing continue to exist and to grow after Ron Paul has left the scene because it's time to take this country back.

And it just got a real boost yesterday when the fascist, Federalist Society packed Supreme Court agreed to hear a case that will be the next step in the plan to crush America from within by disarming law abiding citizens.

Just my two cents

EE 

by Ed Encho (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 56 diaries, 391 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 5:02:16 AM
 

We seek TRUTH and Honorable Men

The official story is BS and these other candidates that provide something closer to truth offer hope.  9/11/2001 was without a doubt an inside job and it has left the paper trail of many obvious attempts to cover-up the elephant in the room. 

Its simple.  It was TREASON and members on both sides have obstructed justice in order to prevent the people from getting the truth.

Multinational Corporations are dictating the show that is presented from D.C. on a daily basis.  "WE THE PEOPLE" have lost all say to the global God's of commerce.  They pull the strings and we watch the show. 

When thousands are killed and WE are lied to I think it is time to end the circus and say we are not paying for any more tickets.  You can sell your soul but I'll be damned if I'll watch and be silent as you sell our nation and take my child for yor sick sacrifice.

I think all that want to continue this illegal war ought to offer their children as the cannon fodder rather then sending other peoples children while they stuff their pockets with the BLOOD MONEY these weazles crave. 

Lets get real weazles are weazles and patriots believe in self sacrifice.  Bush and Cheney were too busy hiding to sacrifice anything.  It was all handed to them if they used they strengths to shred our Constitution.  The enemy occupies the White house paid for by multinational interrests.

by Sleeper (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 276 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 7:56:51 AM
 

A typical Ron Paul supporter?

"Ron Paul’s supporters aren’t typical Republicans, or even typical voters for that matter. They’re young, disenfranchised, oftentimes extremist, and ultra-activist – or new to politics "

Wrong, wrong, wrong.  Not all supporters are who you described. Ron Paul could not of accomplished what he has done and will do with extremists and ultra-activists.  I am a petroleum industry professional and support most all of Ron Paul's philosophies.  I told a business associate of mine from New York who happens to be a multi-millionare about Ron Paul.  This man checked him out on his own and called me and asked me how he donate to the campaign.  This man sees his wealth evaporating before his eyes with the devaluation of the dollar. This is just one example. 

Also Ron Paul supporters do not because they can not spam polls or text messages for voting in the debates.  One one vote per email or phone number, that is how the polls are set up.   Hannity is a lier for saying other wise and he knows it.  They don't magically or somehow get around or through and vote multiple times.  Ron Paul wins the debates, despite being allowed to only speak a few minutes in the debates, because his supporters are engaged and take the time to vote.  It is that simple.  There are no gimmicks.

Other Ron Paul supporters are the military and their families.  He has twice the number of donations as the next candidate from either party.

Ron Paul writes books and articles.  He has a library.  www.ronpaullibrary.com

How many other candidates have a library?  None.  He is schooled in Austrian economics, hard currency, consitutional principles, and foreign policy.  He has studied the Federalist Papers.  How many candidates or politicians have done that?

This is what is scaring the ruling elite and their minions.  Ron Pauls money comes from 40,000 or so regular people who are only giving about $100 a month each.  My math says that this is a minimum of at least $4 million a month.  At only a $100 a month those donations  can continue through out all of 2008.  What happens when the number of people donating doubles, or triples?  The Ron Paul Revolution is grass roots.  The first one in modern history I believe. 

 There are 1100 Meet Up groups, in 800 cities, in 22 countries representing 70,000 volunteers.  Of all the candidates, Obama is second with about 60 Meet Up groups.  

America used to be a constitutional republic, it never was a democracy.  It is now a socialist democracy or oligarchy.  A few rule over many.  Ron Paul wants the government out of our lives.  So do most Americans.  They just don't know it yet. 

by Richard Taylor (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 11:47:54 AM
 

We need representation

They do want the government out of our lives, but they also want the politicians to be responsive to "WE THE PEOPLE" and not partially foreign Imperialistic influences. 

Our workers don't want to watch their jobs go away while their benifit packages increasingly are leaving the worker to pay for their own insurance costs.  We have worked hard and brought about progress to share with the world not to watch a few become insanely rich while the average working man can no longer make ends meet.

by Sleeper (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 276 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 4:12:05 PM
 

Ron Paul a libertarian?

Vinciguerra says Paul is a "true Libertarian."

by Jim Arnold (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 80 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 12:32:13 PM
 

Spare the spam!

Or atleast serve it with toast and eggs.

by chariotdrvr14 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 125 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 3:33:42 PM
 

Hannity

I'm very disappointed in Shawn Hannity for decrying Ron Paul to the extent that he does. But, when you are getting filthy rich supporting a war (nearly his only topic) and a candidate would like to end that war, I suppose you may differ with his opinion.

by Mike Folkerth (120 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 566 comments) on Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 10:46:16 AM