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May 20, 2008 at 00:04:40

Is Torture Ever Justified?

by Mike Gracia     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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In today's political climate, the word torture seems to be synonymous with dictators of 'other'countries, whose barbaric regimes invoke disgust in the west.

It is very important, however for us to question our own governments at every opportunity, to ensure that it is not a case of the 'pot calling the kettle black'. Of course in the UK, for example, we live in a free country and not a dictatorship.

The same can be said for the USA. Never the less, if the every day person does not make themselves aware of changes to the political and legal structure of their country, then we risk the possibility of taking small and gradual steps towards living in an oppressive regime ourselves.

In the wake of 9/11, the US has been much more aggressive in their foreign policies, especially in matters of security.

Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp, at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba, was setup in 2002 to hold detainees of the 'War on Terror'. This detention camp holds hundreds of 'prisoners', who have had no trial since their incarceration. In a series of meetings between Bush administration officials, acceptable interrogation methods were discussed. These included waterboarding (Where the victim is made to feel like they are about to drown). These techniques were ultimately approved.* Other techniques used for gathering evidence in Guantanamo bay include severe sleep deprivation, exposing prisoners to hot or cold conditions, making them sit or stand in uncomfortable positions, and making the prisoner sit with a bag over their head, while military dogs are held barking at close range.

Some people have been quoted as saying that they feel that these aggressive interview techniques are justified, when the information being sought can save the lives of thousands... but at what point does a government that permits the use of 'torture' type interrogation techniques against suspected terrorists become as corrupted and shameful as the oppressive and cruel fanatics they claim to be fighting?

Surely, to argue that you are liberating people from cruel tyrannical dictators, and then use torture techniques against your prisoners is alarmingly contradictory? The Geneva Convention was put in place to protect prisoners of war, and prevent them from being mistreated by their captures. The USAUS soil (Ie. They are HELD by the US, but on Cuban soil) – then the Geneva Convention protecting the rights of prisoners of war do not apply. government has been quoted as saying that, in effect, because the detainees are not on

Take for example the case of (at the time) 15year old Omar Khadr Even though Omar Khadr was seriously injured during his capture (He was shot 3 times in a battle), his interrogation started as soon as he was taken into custody.

- he asked for pain medication for his wounds but was refused;

- during interrogations a bag was placed over his head and US personnel brought military dogs into the room to frighten him;

- cold water was thrown on him;

- his hands were tied above a door frame and he was forced to stand in this position for hours;

- he was not allowed to use the bathroom and was forced to urinate on himself.**

When a country that can hold and cruelly interrogate hundreds of people (let alone children) for several years, waiving those people's rights to protection under the Geneva Convention, and with no right to a legal and fair trial, how much can we trust that government. Especially when that same government say's the reason it is using its military to aggressively move into another country is to free its people from an oppressive dictator that tortures his people.

On a personal level, I feel that if you are engaged in a 'war on terror' then you must be careful to ensure that you do not become as cruel as the terrorists you claim to be fighting. If to win the war on terror you have to quash the civil liberties of your own people, torture suspected terrorists to aid confession, and then deny a fair trial to people that confessed under such duress, then will you ever really be able to say that you won the war on terror, or will you have merely swapped one man's terror for another?

* Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4631535

**Source: http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/184/2005/en/dom-AMR511842005en.html

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Brett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.
Brett PaatschBrett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.

Although it may not be politically correct to say so

because fear is a such a strong motivator there would be circumstances, less than some of a brutish dispositions would like, but some, where torture and terrorism would both work.

The reason to be against torture is that you can't rally decent people to your cause if you behave so indecently. Torture hurts the torturer and the cause of the torturer as well. 

The United States post 9-11 hurt itself far worse than the attackers of 9-11.

The United States became despicable to fight attrocity. More despicable, because it was coming from a better more powerful position with more choices than those it was fighting against.

Frankly when I hear Americans talk about torture or terrorism it doesn't phase me anymore. They have decided to fight not from the moral  high ground where they could have stood for something and had support of humans with human values but as brutes in the moral valleys.

The United States is the worst because it had more choices and it modelled the worst to the rest of the world.

9-11 was bad. The invasion of Iraq was worse was because it evidenced a greater corruption. Torture by the United States is worse because the United States places power in the hands of its citizens and the citizens can play a real part in forming its policy.

When the United States torures and terrorises the US citizen bears a share of the responsibilty and ceases to be innocent. That is a consequence of the  greater freedom and responsibility that US citizens have.  

 

 

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 783 comments) on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 at 9:53:13 PM
 


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Mike Graciakingpin-seo writes news pieces on topical subjects, as well as and Press Releases for their clients at http://www.kingpin-seo.co.uk

Thanks...

Kwalsh, Do you think the general USA population will ever realise the damage done to their country by the bush administration?

Do you feel the US media is partly to blame for its involvement in the 'Hype building'?

by Mike Gracia (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 3 comments) on Thursday, May 22, 2008 at 10:40:09 AM
 

 

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