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December 14, 2007 at 11:38:29

Headlined on 12/14/07:
Apology Overdue

by Mary Pitt     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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In January 2006, Alan Greenspan resigned from his position as chairman of the Federal Reserve where he had reigned for more than 18 years. During that time he took on the mantra of the High Priest of Mammon and his public utterances were pondered with the same reverence bestowed upon the Pope when he speaks ex cathedra as Greenspan muttered and grumbled almost unintelligibly, straining the ears and boggling the brain of his rapt listeners.  Now, from his exalted position in Valhalla. Greenspan offers his opinion on the causes of our present fiscal distress. The op-ed can be found in the Wall Street Journal, the house organ of the World Corporate Church.

In discussing this matter, he says, "The crisis, (the mortgage loan crash) was just an accident waiting to happen."   This is the first mistake in his article. The truth is that it is the foreseeable end of the corporatocracy's effort to bleed the last ounce of financial blood from the veins of the working class of America.

But Greenspan was right in saying that "the root of the crisis...lies back in the aftermath of the Cold War."  That would be about the same time Ronald Reagan appointed Greenspan the guardian of our fiscal possessions -- the time when the Republicans began the movement to establish a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) that would allow American corporations to move their factories to the fertile low-wage worker field south of the Mexican border. This was followed by other "trade agreements" with underdeveloped nations unable to pay for our exports but who had lots of inferior stuff to exchange for the American dollar.

In return, they loaned many of those American dollars back to us until they owned more of the United States fiscal liquidity than Americans did. Now we have no choice but to tolerate the contaminated pet food, the poisonous food products, and the poisonous toys with which they flood our marketplaces because, should they decide to cash in all those dollars by calling our loans, we will be bankrupt. However, the economists have a handy answer for that -- merely repeal all the entitlements, safety nets, and educational programs that flow from the government and grow a whole new crop of child laborers and low-wage slaves on our own shores.

The average American of the wage-earner class may not understand all the maneuvers of the mind of this great fiscal guru, but we do understand one thing. This man who discovered an affinity for numbers during his college years was obviously lacking in his study of the humanities. The numbers with which he has played all these years are more than just numbers. They are the lifeblood of American citizens and the welfare and future of American children. The wealth that American workers create by their labor is drained off by greedy corporatologists as they suffer from each of the fiscal decisions that have been made by the Federal Reserve since Greenspan ascended the throne.

Anyone with any knowledge of sociology would have realized that the American working class was still buying into the canard that the American dream was still alive, that life was on an upward slant as it has been for generations. They really believed that two years down the road, their financial conditions would be improved so they could increase the payments on their dream homes enough to pay down the principal.  Instead, they found the value of their homes decreasing while the purchase prices remained the same and the interest-only time clock kept on ticking. Some are saying, "It was their own fault," while others maintain that optimism is patriotic.

As for the tightening of the stock market, that too had to happen. With the outsourcing of jobs and the decrease in average worker earnings, coupled with the strain of the taxes with which the wealthy were no longer encumbered, there was a limit to the funds that could be gouged from the productive class. Pension funds disappeared and disposable income dropped while inflation inched up and the number of investors dwindled. It had reached the point that the money was just being shuffled from one rich person to another as they gambled to gain the upper hand.  Working America retreated into "survival" mode, ducking and covering to ride out the balance of this disastrous administration.  Remember Jimmy Carter and the "lingering national malaise" of 1972?

The one thing Greenspan cannot comprehend is that he, more than any other single person, is responsible not only for the collapse of the housing bubble and the home-loan industry, but for the greater collapse, which is bearing down upon us as the rich become bloated with wealth and the poor only get poorer. It does not matter how much money there is circulating in the world if that money does not create a better life for all its inhabitants.  Greenspan sees everything through the eyes of the corporate bosses while remaining blissfully ignorant of any effect of his decisions upon the insignificant human beings who are forced to live with the consequences.

There was a segment of the old television show, "Happy Days," wherein Fonzie, the tough guy, made a big mistake and was required to admit it. The poor lad began with "I was...I was...I was..."  but literally choked on the word "wrong."   Try it, Mr. Greenspan. Go ahead, say it!  "I was wrong."  Try it again -- "I was wrong."  Okay, you work on that for a while, and then try to say, "I'm sorry."

We will be listening.

 

The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

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Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

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Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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Mary

Nice article and very factual. Alan Greenspan orchestrated the housing bubble to replace the failed Dot-Com scam. The cost to Middle America for these maligned scandals is now in the $Trillions. He then said of the housing bubble bursting..."I didn't see it coming." In reality, a blind man on a fast horse could have seen it coming, but then, who was looking?

America's economy lost it's ability to sustain the necessary domestic growth around 1971. A study of debt creation, both public and private, bears this out. The gold standard was abolished and the American people have lived on expanding debt created and supported by induced inflation every since.

Ours was a pyramid that simply played out mathematically. Enter Alan Greenspan, who artificially expanded that scheme to the point of diminishing return. The losers as you so well defined it is Middle America and the working poor.

 

by Mike Folkerth (99 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 477 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 12:01:07 PM
 


The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

Thank you

You said it much better than I!  As an aging member of the working class who is currently saddled with Social Security and Medicare alphabet soup, it amazes me that we continue to elect to office people who have never had to struggle or even budget overly much, and pay them several hundred thousand dollars a year to make policy without having any idea of the results of that policy on the people who really own the country and pay their salaries.

by Mary Pitt (60 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 159 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 12:32:39 PM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Next?

From what I see as trends in electronic media advertising, it seems like the scoundrels who were, up until recently, hawking subprime mortgage loans have swapped out their shingles, and are now hawking student tuition loans.

by John Sanchez Jr. (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 834 comments) on Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 10:03:33 AM
 


  .
TomK  .

Don't blame Greenspan for everything

I am not here to defend Greenspan biggest mistake - he orchestrated the incredibly low interest rate of around 1% for over a year. He knew this will surely trigger some kind of bubble, and when housing expansion began to look like a bubble, he did not try to temper it until it became a ful blow bubble.

But he:

- Is not responsible for the rampant self-destructive consumption society, one which continue to liquidate core assets, zero savings, goes ever deeper into debt, to buy a trillion dollar worth of imported goods. A trillion dollar spent over half a decade on imports - where are these stuff now? Mostly in landfills. This is the behavior of a sick society. Don't blame Greenspan on that.

- Is not responsible to Wall Street banking mafia fraudalent and destructive subprime loan, designed to cheat investors and poor home buyers alike in the brain-dead bubbloe environment. Don't blame the bank manager for the bank being robbed.

- Is not responsible for the horrible trade deficits. The amount of which is such that the USD has now dropped 50%, fifty percent!, to compensate for the lost of trade value. This has forced the Fed to print ever more money to buy the same stuff. Blame Congress and Bush for that.

- Is not responsible for the de-industrization of America. This put ever more pressure onto the middle class, who has to worked ever harder, and go into debt, to make ends meet. He tried to lower interest rates to help out the middle class by uping the value of their homes and lower debt payment. But the elites - Wall Streets, mortgage companies turn that into one big racket. Don't blame Greenspan for creating a mafia racket.

 

 

by TomK (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 194 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 1:28:32 PM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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Tom K

Your points are well taken but Mr. Greenspan knew exactly what was going to happen. He provided the carrot and the money for Middle America to go hopelessy into debt. 

Had he really wanted to help Middle America, he would have allowed for the correction to take place in 2003, rather than to lower the FED rate to 1%. Such a move creates purposefully induced inflation. 

Where the plan backfired is that wages were expected to climb along with the inflationary prices. They didn't. And for the reason that you stated; industry in the U.S. is gone.  

We now find ourselves hovering above recession hanging by our finger tips and millions of Americans are trying to hold on to overpriced housing that they couldn't afford in the first place with no hope of rising wages.

Mr. Greenspan was well aware of the consequences of his actions. 

 

by Mike Folkerth (99 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 477 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 1:49:52 PM
 


The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

He was the great enabler

The rest of the Reagan Neo-Con retreads and the greedy corporate bosses could not have accomplished their total takeover of the American economy without his complicity.  As for Americans buying so many imported goods, in much of the country there is no place to shop other than WalMart and the shoddy imported goods are what you find there.  Have you tried to buy any electronic equipment that is made in America?  Lots of luck!  And, since Country Of Origin labeling is not allowed, we have no idea where items were manufactured or grown.

Our current situation could not have been created without the cooperation of the administration, the Congress, and Federal Reserve, every member of which was repaid with personal gain.  We are in big trouble.  I can remember the Great Depression and I know how to do without many of the "essentials" of life, but the rest of you should study it.  The American Dream has bitten the dust!

by Mary Pitt (60 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 159 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 2:27:33 PM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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Mary

The cover of my book "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" shows a ship sinking with" American Dream" painted on the hull and a Middle Class family standing on a small deserted island with an SOS sign drawn in the sand.

The only thing I would like to discuss with you (not argue) is who was at fault. It seems that you believe that Reagan started the dance. When I wrote the book, I spent some 2,000 hours researching what went wrong. I was very surprised and I think you would also be. There is ample blame to go around, believe me.

The cause goes back long before Reagan and has much more to do with math than with party affilition and beliefs.

But, you are very correct when you tell people to read up on the depression. I'm about to write a piece on that very subject.

 

by Mike Folkerth (99 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 477 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 2:59:13 PM
 


The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

I find myself enjoying this conversation

I could write a book about growing up during the depression.  As a matter of fact,  I have, a small one for younger members of my family.  Most people have no idea of what it is like to like in such abject poverty and most mistakenly believe that it can never happen again.

 As to party, I try to refrain from party politics since I am utterly disgusted with both of them as well as the party machinery and the Electoral College.  Even now, after all these years, I am fervently hoping that a real "man of the people" will appear and we will have the good sense to let him lead us out of this quagmire.

by Mary Pitt (60 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 159 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 4:07:55 PM
 


Jim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.
Jim FreemanJim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.

Mary, you are a true patriot

and, try as I may, I don't see a way out of our present predicament other than financial collapse. I wish I could. When the country lacks any connection to its government, it's a serious thing. Democrats and Republicans alike are proving to be culpable co-conspirators for the past seven years. That doesn't leave much upon which to pin our hopes.

I really thought we were making progress under Bill Clinton, controlling spending and paying down the national debt--there was actual debate about what to do with the savings from the end of the cold war. Then Newt hijacked government, sold his 'contract with America' and essentially bought out government as we had known it. We now know what it is to have the best government money can buy. 

I was born in '35 and my first real memories are of the end of depression and the beginning of war. Now, it seems I have come full circle to what will be the end of war and beginning of depression.

That may not be a bad thing for the country. We survived '29 and survived '41 and were stronger for it.

by Jim Freeman (107 articles, 40 quicklinks, 150 diaries, 326 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 6:46:44 PM
 


My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.

Culprit or symptom?

Greenspan as architect of the last wringing of profit from the last remaining sources is weak, in my opinion. Capitalism has a built in failure feature because ,after all, how long can one continue to increase profitability from one quarter to the next, to the next...?This was bound to happen and it has, whether Alan Greenspan was a steward of our economy or a dentist.

It just seems to me that we always look for the arch fiend in every situation, whether Greenspan, Reagan, Bush the second or Cheney ( well maybe he really is that). The culprit is the system itself, in my opinion, and it always was going to come down to the last CEO standing.

Ironically I believe that the way out of the swamp lies , not with a socialist revolution, we dont need one of those, I think creeping socialism will come to us inevitably, but with the infusion of new technologies. Probably in a battle to save us all from global warming......Technology has always infused our economy with new blood, new energy and new money, and I trust it will again.

Disclaimer alert: I am not, repeat not an economist, or even very smart, its just my opinion......hope even.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2388 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 7:03:33 PM
 


The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

The downfall of capitalism

always is greed.  The sytem eventually leads to the opportunity for a certain element to gain control of the medium of exchange and, with it, power over others.  If they can control the economy, they can control our lives.  The whole point of founding our nation in democracy was to allow control always to lie with the people.  But we got lazy!  It is much simpler to choose sides than it is to choose carefully from a field of candidates but it is easier to control two parties then than to choose one man from many.  Initially, we chose men of meritorious service in other fields.  Today we choose from groups of professional politicians to our detriment and to the detriment of the world.

by Mary Pitt (60 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 159 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 7:54:05 PM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mary

I'm glad that you are enjoying the conversation. I unfortunately agree with Jim in that the situation is headed for some tough times. I often wish that I knew much less than I do regarding macro-economics. Ignorance truly can be blissful.

Ardee is correct in his assumption that regardless of who was leading, unless we would have drastically changed our economic model, we would have eventually arrived at the same impenetrable barrier to sustainable domestic growth.

I don't agree that Bill Clinton was on the right track. Yes he paid down the deficit, but he actually raised the annual budget; a lot. He simply raised taxes to pay for it and used a boat load of tobacco settlement money.

Mathematically, he was no further ahead, the subjects were just further behind. He also left office just before the U.S. took a $2 Trillion hit from the collapse of the Dot-Com scam, erasing all gains that he had ever made.



It's unfortunately the macro math that did us in. An argument as who is to blame simply keeps us from finding a solution. I hope that leader that you described shows up soon.

by Mike Folkerth (99 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 477 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 8:03:08 PM
 


The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

I am neither mathematician nor economist

Nor am I a politician.  The concept of a billion of anything does not compute and I can barely comprehend a million.  A national debt in the trillions is simply unspeakable.  I cringe when watching the debates as the Dems talk only about continuing the growth of the entitlements while going on with Bush's war while the Republicans do nothing but gripe about paying taxes and debate ways to make the workers poorer still while maintaining our military might at any cost.  Does nobody care about our future and the welfare of our children?  We have turned out generations of undisciplined, malnourished, and undereducated kids who learn at an early age that you must cheat to win.  That sound you hear is our Founders spinning in their graves!

by Mary Pitt (60 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 159 comments) on Friday, December 14, 2007 at 8:33:15 PM
 


  .
TomK  .

Some good viewings and readings

You may find the following presentations (YouTube video clips) about the economy informative:

The "mighty" dollar
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3g5lUgkWk&feature=related

The Ultimate USD
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhnHo3RDfg&feature=related

How deep is the hole?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojdrIC9K94E&feature=related

On the brink
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvTbOnuBHiQ&feature=related

Unreal estate
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5kNJgLwD3Y&feature=related

Gold is good
www.youtube.com/watch?v=icPkpzivk1s&feature=related

China's got problems too
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMcA_yHDfb0&feature=related

Maxed Out
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYB-nB_zT7o&feature=related

The magic of the market
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLnryKeQ16A&feature=related

Also recommend Pat Buchanan new book "Day of Reckoning: How Hubris, Ideology and Greed Are Tearing America Apart"

(Search amazon.com for "Day of Reckoning")

For a historical understanding of what America did around the world, the new books by Naomi Klein is a must read "The Shock Doctrine: Disaster Capitalism". This book explains how the American government, guided by U of Chicago economists, shocked and plundered the world for 40 years by applying extreme forms of capitalism. It explains Bush Iraqi strategy as a continuation of the shock doctrine, where the economy is purposely destroyed in preparation for total privatization, so that American corporations can proceed to take it over. During the past decade, big biz elites managed to control the US government to the degree where the Shock Doctrine can finally be applied to the US itself. What we see now is the result.

(Search amazon.com for "Shock Doctrine" )

by TomK (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 194 comments) on Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 3:11:22 AM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mary

please visit my site at kingofsimple.com and e-mail me your mailing address. I want to send you my book, free. From time to time I stumble on to someone like yourself who I know will enjoy the read.

I assure you that it will the first book that you have ever read on economics that is written in English. Ha-ha.

You will notice that even the main stream economists are now talking recession. That housing will remain down until at least 09. Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke both assured us that housing would make a soft landing and was not large enough to bring down the overall economy. So much for our top watchdogs huh?

You spurred a good conversation with this piece. Mike

by Mike Folkerth (99 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 477 comments) on Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 8:28:23 AM
 


The author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".
Mary PittThe author is a very "with-it" old lady who aspires to bring a bit of truth, justice, and commom sense to a nation that has lost touch with its humanity in the search for societal "perfection".

Yes, it has been nice

Thank you for your input and for reassuring me that my judgement is not that far off accurate.  It just angered me that the gist of Greenspan's op-ed was that he did everything right but we sheeple responded improperly, which caused this disaster.  If he didn't know that his policies would unleash the beast of corporate greed, he certainly should have.  He measures "the economy" on the amounts of money that is earned, (or stolen), while the populists measure it by the welfare of the people.

by Mary Pitt (60 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 159 comments) on Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 9:42:47 AM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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One last comment

Mary, you asked if anyone cares about the people and our kids and grandkids. If you have not read or heard the views of David Walker, Cheif Comptroller General of the U.S., please Google him and read what he has to say. He cares very much. Congress just doesn't listen.

After all, Mr. Walker is only the highest level accountant and Congressional oversite for the United States. Why listen to him; our elected officials are doing marvelously without his advice.

by Mike Folkerth (99 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 477 comments) on Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 9:52:36 AM
 


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TomK  .

USD will loose reserve status under Ben


While we're discussing the geniuses who run the US central bank, here's some new development:

Iran stopped accepting USD as payment for oil on Dec 8.
Venezuela will likely follow. Russia Putin, who has been 'pissed off' at Bush betrayal, and is the second largest oil exporter in the world, will likely consider billing oil in Euro in addition to USD. He would enjoy turning the screw instead of being screwed by Bush.

This is another nail in the coffin of the USD as world reserve currency. The USD has been the currency of world oil trade (petrodollar) only because it is held as reserve currency by many countries.

For more information:

onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2741.shtml

 

by TomK (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 194 comments) on Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 11:02:42 PM
 


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dave stanleyretired and loving it

"Apology Overdue"

No one will escape not even the rich .when the dollar goes everyone will fell it.

by dave stanley (5 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 286 comments) on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 9:51:35 PM
 

 

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