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9/11: Challenging 'Loose Change'

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I often wonder if those who believe in conspiracy theories act in a cult like fashion in which anyone who questions the group as a whole is often shunned.  One definition of a cult is a small group of devotees.  In challenging the conspiracies that surround 9/11 even though I said I would not address this issue again, I felt the need to.  It was in challenging these beliefs I was told by someone that I was in the minority and as stated previously, I asked; who was this person polling. 

I will state again that while in the beginning I too believed in these theories, I had to open my mind to other possibilities which brought about the devastation of that day.  In speaking to so many people outside the Internet community, I did not find one who did believe that it was a grand conspiracy perpetrated by our government.  When I relayed to most of the people I spoke with that certain articles were being circulated around the Internet that Virginia Tech was a perpetrated by the government, it was met with complete outrage and disgust.  I stated to those I conversed with, do not shoot the messenger, meaning me.  But, they were dumbfounded.

I often wonder if there is a real and credible terrorist threat that we should pay attention to; will it be confronted by conspiracy theorists not to pay attention to it via alerts circulated around the Internet?  If they do; aren’t they in fact doing more harm than good?

Over the years, while blasting away at the government, I have received emails from some of these theorists what Osama bin Laden and other terrorists have to say should be respected and I get the feeling they want me to side with him.  Even Rosie O’Donnell stated on ‘The View’, “do not fear the terrorists…they are mothers and fathers” and I found that reprehensible.  Was she trying to humanize or imprint some form of humanity on those who chose to dehumanize the victims of 9/11?  Is she trying to humanize those who will continue in their cult like fashion to take the lives of innocent human beings?

Whether you’re al Qaeda, Hammas, the Irish Republican Army or any other terrorist organization, if you kill another human being, you are not deserving of any act of human kindness.  In watching the broadcasts of people jumping out of the Twin Towers to their deaths, do not ask me to feel any compassion when it comes to terrorists.  They deserve none.  Yes as a society we should give any detainee due process as we give due process to serial killers. But, I do think our compassion should and must go to the innocents they killed. 

After writing my last piece on 9/11, I was told by an editor of an alternative news site, Watch LOOSE CHANGE... you're not equipped to form a conclusion based on your personal opinion, Mary.  This is how I take that statement is that I am allowed an opinion if I do believe in these conspiracy theories.  If I challenge those that believe them, I am told I am not allowed any personal opinion.  I do believe I am allowed this differing opinion based upon what I have read, viewed and the information relayed to me by my source at Controlled Demolitions Incorporated. 

While an admirer of the Loizeaux family for many years I have not allowed this admiration to influence my writing on this topic, but only their experience. In reading their site you will read that their family has been imploding buildings now for fifty years.  They have successfully imploded buildings saving their clients the monetary costs that come with taking any building down.  Yes, they are experts when it comes to comparing how a building does down and if it was done by controlled demolition.  So, when my source tells me that both Twin Towers and Building 7 were not brought down by a controlled demolition, I do believe this person’s expert opinion instead of the producers of ‘Loose Change’.  The producers of that movie have no experience in engineering, explosives and demolitions.

To confront the beliefs of those that choose to believe 9/11 was done by the government, I have been digging into a site called,Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy theories and Controlled Demolition Myths, and from what I have come to understand is that this web site both logically and rationally challenge the beliefs of conspiracy theorists.The other day, I watched a three hour video which takes apart that movie that conspiracy theorists hold up like a Bible of sorts called, ‘Loose Change’ piece by piece by piece.  Yes, I sat there for three hours with an open mind and it angers me that some will give these producers reverence and will look to disparage the reputation of the Loizeaux family.

 

In my previous article on this topic, I wrote of ‘Loose Change’ based upon an Alternet.org article, “the making of ‘Loose Change’ as he stated, “Loose Change" happened by accident. The whole thing started out as a fictional screenplay about me and Dylan and another friend of ours finding out 9/11 was an inside job. It started out as a comedic action film with us being chased by the FBI and all that.”

Am I to believe people who produced this movie namely, Dylan Avery, Korey Rowe and Jason Bermas over the expert opinion by my source at Controlled Demolitions Incorporated?  The answer is no.

While I choose not to name the editor of that alternative news site who told me to watch ‘Loose Change’ she did mention it within an editorial.  She also wrote within that editorial, “At the very least shouldn’t you at least listen with an open mind when someone who has done the research has some information to share?” Normally, I would point to an article as a reference, but it was contained within a private email to me by this editor and to also protect her as a source of sorts, I will not divulge the name of her site.  Also, in addressing this editor, who asked those in her editorial to listen with an open mind, I would ask her to do the same as I have been researching confronting the very theories she supports.

Every one of these conspiracy theorists will tell you and the producers of the movie ‘Loose Change’ will tell you that Twin Tower One and Two along with Building 7 were controlled demolitions.  No, they were not.  Those buildings were so badly damaged that they fell in a free flow manner called pancaking.  The damage to Building 7 came from the debris of one of the towers assaulting it and it stood little chance of surviving.

Speaking of Building 7 in which the movie ‘Loose Change’ does not show you, please go to this link: http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm and you will see the devastation of the debris assault from one of the towers that was done to Building 7.  In fact, the ninth frame down is a video which clearly shows the fires raging within that building.  In controlled demolitions there are no fires only explosions.  This is what weakened that building so severely that it was only a matter of time before it came down.  In some conspiracy feeds, you will NOT see these images. You will only see Building 7 coming down which looks similar to a controlled demolition hiding behind other buildings.  Also, in conspiracy feeds, there is no sound as you will hear in this one.  What you are witnessing in viewing this feed is the death of that building.

Here is yet another feed explaining and showing the assault on Building 7 they will show how tons of debris coming from World Trade Center One.  In fact they state it “might have been a knife to the guts of World Trade Center 7”

One piece of testimony that the producers of ‘Loose Change’ will use of these buildings being set with explosives comes from a janitor that states he was in sub-level one of one of the Twin Towers.  His testimony was that he heard explosions. Those explosions can be extraneous sounds coming from any number of sources such as cables snapping but here is the crux of the matter; if they were controlled demolitions, he would not be alive to tell about it.

In this feed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ which was NOT a CDI (Controlled Demolitions Incorporated) project, you will clearly see how the building is first weakened throughout the structure through a series of timed and sequential blasts.  But, at the bottom is the major blast which takes down the building. Please tell me if any janitor at the bottom of the Twin Towers could live to tell about it.  The answer is no.  Also take note of the sounds coming from that structure as they are blowing it.  In the case of all of the towers, you did not hear anything like that.

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Glad to see by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 2:29:04 AM
outside the community... by Peter Dearman on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 2:40:39 AM
But now by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 4:45:16 AM
Inconsistent consistencies by Mr. Robin Parsons on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 6:42:48 AM
Keep your spotlight on 9/11 by Aimee on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 7:55:33 AM
Mary exhibits denial and delusion yet again. by richard on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 8:43:20 AM
Even in the very first line you start insulting... by Han on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 10:09:48 AM
Deniers of Truth by Matt Kjeldsen on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 10:14:05 AM
Simplistic analysis won't work by gravity32 on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 10:23:41 AM
Janitor? by Michael Gill on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 11:30:56 AM
Your getting info from the wrong source by Brad Griffeth on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 12:12:30 PM
the document you mention by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 12:13:44 PM
this was supposed to be a reply by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 12:16:01 PM
some more info for Mary by Brad Griffeth on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 12:19:44 PM
Was Bush democratically elected ? by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 12:36:57 PM
The Building implosion theory is fascinating, BUT!!!! by ChrisIXXIVeritas on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 1:00:18 PM
good point by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 1:19:42 PM
Pacifying disinformation by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 1:50:23 PM
How We Were Duped by Christie on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 2:30:34 PM
Has anyone seen Mary ? by Tony Forest on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 2:34:31 PM
MarkyX here by MarkyX on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 2:56:11 PM
Are you the same marky x moron who debunked loose change? by tiffane on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 2:41:00 AM
Maybe they just don't like any kind of criminal fraud? by jpsmith123 on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 3:45:17 PM
lol Holocaust Denier by MarkyX on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 4:40:47 PM
LOL! You bet! by jpsmith123 on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 5:36:59 PM
Why must we put subjects? by MarkyX on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 5:57:45 PM
NIST by MarkyX on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 5:58:48 PM
Well -- I'll tell you... by Blue Pilgrim on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 5:44:20 PM
Ladies, Gentlemen... by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 6:00:05 PM
Quoting an eloquent 9-11 truth seeker by ChrisIXXIVeritas on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 6:20:35 PM
Sorry Mary, You're in LahLah Land. by Mac McKinney on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 7:12:41 PM
There is so much more, than just 'loose change'. by ChrisIXXIVeritas on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 8:16:42 PM
To those making comments-SUGGESTION by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 8:31:38 PM
The most amazing Phenomenon by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 8:52:56 PM
You have to admit by Blue Pilgrim on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:47:51 PM
Thanks for telling the honest truth, Mary. by pratliff94 on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 10:44:53 PM
Re: "Thanks for telling ...... by richard on Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 11:21:05 PM
American Free Press by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 5:49:57 AM
Sam Clemmons by BreezyinVA on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 11:09:03 AM
Conspiracy Theories by Margaret Cloud on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 12:36:19 AM
macloud provides more ad hominem and other nonsense by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 6:13:22 AM
Ad-hom? by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 7:05:31 AM
Macloud 's Sane Reaction to Mary. by pratliff94 on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 11:55:24 AM
The official story is BS by Better World Order on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 12:46:19 AM
cat - pigeon by davy on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 2:04:47 AM
9/11 was the Pretext. by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 6:38:34 AM
Mary Had A Little Lamb, Little Lamb, Little Lamb! by Dom Jermano on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 4:51:17 AM
More lies by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 5:55:31 AM
Typo by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 5:57:12 AM
Another typo by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 6:45:50 AM
Many Inconsistencies Surround 911. by Dom Jermano on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 12:22:55 AM
Problems.... by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 6:47:54 AM
The above was a reply to DOM by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 6:49:12 AM
Without a trial by Mark Sashine on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 7:25:36 AM
Please refer to your nearest dictionary... by John Perry on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 8:22:37 AM
Agree. by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 8:46:44 AM
Hello John by Dom Jermano on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 12:29:30 AM
Let's dissect Marky. by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 8:37:58 AM
At last a voice of reason... by JD on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:06:53 AM
Why should anyone read such tripe? by RCG on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:12:13 AM
You fail by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:47:51 AM
Marky, marky, marky.... by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 12:29:36 PM
Another subject? by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 5:04:26 PM
Eh? by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 11:17:32 PM
the greatest error by Blue Pilgrim on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 3:07:24 PM
60 comments ! by Tony Forest on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 3:52:00 PM
Conspiracies, Like Death Threats, are no Joke! by Rasoul Acheh on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 4:17:19 PM
Peace Needs Truth by BreezyinVA on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 6:04:54 PM
This is getting burdensome. by jpsmith123 on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 7:14:36 PM
The Official 9/11 Story is about Belief not Truth! by Rasoul Acheh on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:02:46 PM
Where are the Thinkers by BreezyinVA on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 11:15:59 AM
Pathetic by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:21:45 PM
Forgot the link by MarkyX on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:36:57 PM
I'll tell who/what is pathetic by Blue Pilgrim on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 10:00:36 PM
Getting desperate now, chumpy? by jpsmith123 on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 10:32:33 PM
Critical Thinkers, not experts, uncovered the truth of 9/11! by Rasoul Acheh on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 8:13:32 PM
Response by Jeremy R. Hammond on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 9:25:35 PM
Made the mistake of inserting this above by richard on Monday, May 7, 2007 at 11:23:31 PM
Better be the last. by MarkyX on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 6:09:47 AM
It isn't just loose change by tiffane on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 2:30:07 AM
GOOD ONE!!!!! by tiffane on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 2:38:56 AM
40 Reasons to doubt the official STORY by tiffane on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 2:54:10 AM
AND THEN THERE''S THE MONEY? by tiffane on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 3:08:13 AM
Then we could Play Loose Change Backwards by Rob Kall on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 6:24:36 AM
Rob by MarkyX on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 7:39:03 AM
Page 13 by Tony Forest on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 8:49:47 AM
Very interesting but how about clean buildings ? by Tony Forest on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 5:27:15 AM
Dear Mark Roberts by richard on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 7:54:29 AM
Concrete vs Steel by MarkyX on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 7:55:59 AM
Before there was 'F 9-11', before there was 'Loose Change' by ChrisIXXIVeritas on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 10:59:57 AM
Architects and Engineers by BreezyinVA on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 11:05:54 AM
concrete by Blue Pilgrim on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 11:20:40 AM
significance by Blue Pilgrim on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 12:47:31 PM
"why not a lane crashed into the ground at Times Square...." by Tony Forest on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 12:57:57 PM
asbestos? by Blue Pilgrim on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 1:16:23 PM
Oh - asbestos in the WTC by Blue Pilgrim on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 1:20:28 PM
Pentacon by BreezyinVA on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 4:05:05 PM
well... by Blue Pilgrim on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 8:43:38 PM
Icing on cake by BreezyinVA on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 12:29:37 PM
It wasn't concrete by MarkyX on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 3:39:47 PM
Review of some fires..... by Duff on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 at 6:07:03 PM
Asbestos by Tony Forest on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 1:15:32 AM
blueprints by Blue Pilgrim on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 4:10:39 PM
Dinosaurs by BreezyinVA on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 5:45:27 PM
Bush is a cult leader by Rocdad on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 4:31:38 PM
Asbestos was throughout the WTC as fireproofing material. by Dom Jermano on Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 9:15:46 AM
Asbestos was throughout the WTC as fireproofing material. by Dom Jermano on Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 9:23:24 AM
Asbestos was throughout the WTC as fireproofing material. by Dom Jermano on Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 9:26:26 AM
Asbestos was throughout the WTC as fireproofing material. by Dom Jermano on Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 9:28:04 AM
Asbestos was also in the Pentagon as fireproofing material. by Dom Jermano on Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 9:30:14 AM
Several problems with all the conspiracy theories by Steven Leser on Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 10:28:53 PM
As you say, All the theories? by BreezyinVA on Friday, May 11, 2007 at 12:37:50 AM
Challenge Accepted! by Dom Jermano on Friday, May 11, 2007 at 6:25:58 AM
I dont believe your responses are credible by Steven Leser on Friday, May 11, 2007 at 11:38:43 AM
Slesser where is your point between the S @ l? by Dom Jermano on Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 5:45:12 AM

 

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